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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 10:30:03 AM   
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Oh, hold on a mo'. IF I get to see a food giant such a Kellogg's bend over, my day will be complete. Who'll take the first strike?

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 11:02:19 AM   
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Oh, hold on a mo'. IF I get to see a food giant such a Kellogg's bend over, my day will be complete. Who'll take the first strike?


Well I'm game. The reality is that you are seeing someof these companies respond....from cereals with less sugar and  whole grain....they are not responding because they care, like I would, but out of keeping shoppers dollars in their corporate pockest instead of "Whole Food's."

Nonetheless, they have bent over enough for me to get to spank your ass.

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 11:04:41 AM   
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Oh, hold on a mo'. IF I get to see a food giant such a Kellogg's bend over, my day will be complete. Who'll take the first strike?


Well I'm game. The reality is that you are seeing someof these companies respond....from cereals with less sugar and  whole grain....they ae not responding because they care, like I would, but out of keeping shoppers dollars in their corporate pockest instead of "Whole Food's."

Nonetheless, they have bent over enough for me to get to spank your ass.


I disagree. Au contraire, mon cher, the food giants are going about their business poisonning those that don't know any better and getting away with it.

The day when you will get to 'spank my ass' isn't near us yet :-)

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 11:17:17 AM   
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Just to present another side of this topic.....when I was in grade school, back in the 60's, we were very poor, almost never ate fast food, didn't have extras in the house like soda pop or junk food, just basics, and we ate balanced meat/potato/vegetable midwest-style meals and rarely had desserts.  I played outside till sundown, riding bikes, playing games, running around, neighborhood hide&seek and kickball, etc.  I probably ate less than most of the skinny kids.  But I was STILL a chubby kid. 

I have two sons, fairly close in age, so they played together constantly and ate identical diets.  Still, the older one was very slender like his father, and the unfortunate younger one took after me, always chubby.

Don't blast me, I know things are way different today and there are way more overweight kids who need exercise and need to watch their diets.  But we must exercise judgement and take it on a kid-to-kid basis, and not assume every single overweight kid out there lives an unhealthy lifestyle.

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 11:19:51 AM   
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Oh, hold on a mo'. IF I get to see a food giant such a Kellogg's bend over, my day will be complete. Who'll take the first strike?


Well I'm game. The reality is that you are seeing someof these companies respond....from cereals with less sugar and  whole grain....they ae not responding because they care, like I would, but out of keeping shoppers dollars in their corporate pockest instead of "Whole Food's."

Nonetheless, they have bent over enough for me to get to spank your ass.


I disagree. Au contraire, mon cher, the food giants are going about their business poisonning those that don't know any better and getting away with it.

The day when you will get to 'spank my ass' isn't near us yet :-)


http://www.smartstart.com/

www.all-bran.com

They are doing something....Perhaps not enough to justify a spanking....But a BJ probably wouldn't kill a lil kittin such as yourself. Or maybe just a friendly round of anal?

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 11:26:59 AM   
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Oh, hold on a mo'. IF I get to see a food giant such a Kellogg's bend over, my day will be complete. Who'll take the first strike?


Well I'm game. The reality is that you are seeing someof these companies respond....from cereals with less sugar and  whole grain....they ae not responding because they care, like I would, but out of keeping shoppers dollars in their corporate pockest instead of "Whole Food's."

Nonetheless, they have bent over enough for me to get to spank your ass.


I disagree. Au contraire, mon cher, the food giants are going about their business poisonning those that don't know any better and getting away with it.

The day when you will get to 'spank my ass' isn't near us yet :-)


http://www.smartstart.com/

www.all-bran.com

They are doing something....Perhaps not enough to justify a spanking....But a BJ probably wouldn't kill a lil kittin such as yourself. Or maybe just a friendly round of anal?



Alas, no. Not before marriage

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Their... - 6/15/2007 11:32:26 AM   
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The Battle Creek, Mich., company avoided a lawsuit threatened by parents and nutrition advocacy groups worried about increasing child obesity. Kellogg intends to formally announce its decision Thursday.
The company said it won't promote foods in TV, radio, print or Web site ads that reach audiences at least half of whom are under age 12 unless a single serving of the product meets these standards


I just love this. More abdication of personal responsibility and accountability. Its always someone else's fault or outside influence that makes you fat, poor, or sick.

I can see the logic and consensus of parents wanting Kellogg to eliminate these cereal choices. It is much easier to tell the child with equal status in the 'what to eat for breakfast' decision, that his choice of sugar coated chocolate chuck cereal isn't sold any more, rather than not buy it for them or tell them no.

Someday we may see a movement to eliminate streets in neighborhood so that a child's right of self determination to run into traffic isn't inhibited and doesn't require 'buddy-parent' negativity.

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 11:45:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: domiguy

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Oh, hold on a mo'. IF I get to see a food giant such a Kellogg's bend over, my day will be complete. Who'll take the first strike?


Well I'm game. The reality is that you are seeing someof these companies respond....from cereals with less sugar and  whole grain....they ae not responding because they care, like I would, but out of keeping shoppers dollars in their corporate pockest instead of "Whole Food's."

Nonetheless, they have bent over enough for me to get to spank your ass.


I disagree. Au contraire, mon cher, the food giants are going about their business poisonning those that don't know any better and getting away with it.

The day when you will get to 'spank my ass' isn't near us yet :-)


http://www.smartstart.com/

www.all-bran.com

They are doing something....Perhaps not enough to justify a spanking....But a BJ probably wouldn't kill a lil kittin such as yourself. Or maybe just a friendly round of anal?



Alas, no. Not before marriage


Once we are "engaged" in anal...Will you please take the shot of my tits off of your profile.

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 11:49:36 AM   
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sorry Julia a lil distracted braiding hair at the same time and you know what yeah i know kids make their own money and they trade but you know what not including elementary school you're average middle school kid knows they difference between junk food and whats good for them. If you taught your kid to eat responsibly and not to follow the crowd there is nothing to worry about and considering most trades are for pudding cups and chips who cares. And those who are old enough to make their own money ie high schoolers are old enough to make their own diet choices. And as i said before a lot of these problems with kids weight is because they don't move. Look at how many school districts don't have recess any more or how many schools who's P.E. classes are far from physical. We did a mile every friday you either walked or ran it. We played soccer, basketball, we were made to get up and move. A lot of these kids who are becoming overweight are that way because they sit and play video games all day.

Bottom lien you don't liek what they sell? Don't eat it and don't knock anyone's choice to do so. My last roommate used to do that whenever i brought McD's home and you know what I said? "Kiss my ass mr bulk powder." Its all about choice.

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 12:10:33 PM   
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domiguy, just go and love yourself for a while? It will get you off my tits :-)

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 12:35:38 PM   
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Yeah, banning DODGEBALL? Now what the FUCK is that all about?
What a bunch of Sickos!
Dodgeball is FUN!

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 12:57:49 PM   
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Dodgeball, tackle football, two-hand touch in some places, tag come on now TAG?! just about anything you MIGHT get hurt doing they are taking away.  Places that do have recess are about as much fun and playing football without keeping score.

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 2:59:45 PM   
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I'm a boomer generation type, we grew up on all the Kelloggs stuff, I was even in the market test group for Pop Tarts. I also ate fast food and cyclamates and monosodium glutamate and a lot of other stuff that is now considered bad for you. When I graduated from HS and went into the Air Force I weighed 137 pounds, not exactly an obese kid no matter how much of this fattening stuff I ate. The difference is not in the food it's the sedentary lifestyle kids have these days. You can eat all the calories you want as a kid if you get out and run them off. Sure I spent a lot of hours watching TV, just as every boomer kid did, but I also played outside, ran, rode bicycles all over, snow skied, kayaked, etc. The food is not the reason for childhood obesity. Making food more healthy is a good goal, but not because some want to blame the food companies for their kids' lack of exercise.

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 3:05:27 PM   
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But we must exercise judgement and take it on a kid-to-kid basis, and not assume every single overweight kid out there lives an unhealthy lifestyle.


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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 3:58:08 PM   
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I guarantee you that Kelloggs is doing this because they know it's a smart business decision, not because they're afraid of a lawsuit. 


I guarantee you that Kelloggs is doing this because sugar is getting more expensive and they can swing the less sweet ceral these days. That is the smart decision. Trust me, it is market driven, if the maketplace wanted Sugar Smacks they would get Sugar Smacks. Right now the market wants Whole Grain Golden Honey Smacks.

Of course, the less sugar, caffine, tropical plant fats and cocca America buys, the poorer third would economies get.

But then... that's not our problem right?

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 4:41:45 PM   
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I guarantee you that Kelloggs is doing this because sugar is getting more expensive and they can swing the less sweet ceral these days.


It helps, but actually the plastic bag that the cereal comes in costs more than the cereal itself.  Plastic is made from petroleum, so high energy prices = high packaging costs.  I just think it's amusing that the packaging costs more than the product!

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 5:51:09 PM   
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I guarantee you that Kelloggs is doing this because they know it's a smart business decision, not because they're afraid of a lawsuit.


I guarantee you that Kelloggs is doing this because sugar is getting more expensive and they can swing the less sweet ceral these days. That is the smart decision. Trust me, it is market driven, if the maketplace wanted Sugar Smacks they would get Sugar Smacks. Right now the market wants Whole Grain Golden Honey Smacks.

Of course, the less sugar, caffine, tropical plant fats and cocca America buys, the poorer third would economies get.

But then... that's not our problem right?


I disagree with both POVs here.

This is basically marketing and propaganda, nothing more. Oh yes, the biggest, bestest all-American cereal maker is suddenly scared of all these parents and nutritional advocacy groups and is making its cereals even more nutritional and with less sugar and less fat.

Oh sure. Pull the other one, it's got bells on it.

None of the issues raised in the article are new issues - child obesity, obesity in general, and immoral advertising strategies to children.

It's very easy to see an obese child or adult and point the finger and form the opinion that Fatso either eats too much or doesn't take enough exercise and this is exactly what corporations such as Kelloggs and MacDonalds want you to do.

This is why it's just another media inspired stereotype - the socially unacceptable obese person or kid - the fat kid with the irresponsible parents who let their kids do what they like, the fat lady who gorges herself on candy and chocolate, the fat person on welfare who sits and watches daytime TV and eats junk food all the time.

And people fall for it every time. How many obese people do you see working in face to face customer service positions, such as supermarket checkouts and banks? How many women out there are constantly dieting?

I'm not saying there aren't fat people who fit these stereotypes, there are, but there are also many obese adults and kids who don't. And to me, if it was so simple an issue as taking exercise and controlling what you eat, then why are there so many obese people out there and why is obesity such a major, complicated issue for the medical profession?

But how many of us actually see this issue for what it is and are able to point the finger at coporations such as Kelloggs, MacDonalds, and others who fill up our supermarket and grocery store shelves with so much gunk and junk and crap?

Back in the bad old days Kelloggs sold cereals - real cereals - corn flakes, All Bran, Special K, but now much of what they sell doesn't have any more nutritional value than a packet of cookies or even a straighforward candy bar. Why, some of the cookies and biscuits now on sale are healthier than the cereals.

Okay, so they're not going to be advertising to children any more, except for when it comes to Tony the Tiger. Big deal. This to me is the main point of the article - they're cutting advertising costs. But no mention of how many jobs are going to be lost as a result. And is anybody asking? But the thing is that they no longer need to advertise these products, because they're all going to be there on the supermarket shelves anyway. MacDonalds doesn't promote all its burgers, it doesn't have to, promoting the Big Mac is enough - all the rest is on the menu.

Call me cynical, but I can recall a recent court case where two New Zealand schoolgirls discovered that Ribena doesn't contain any vitamin C. Then there's the Super Size Me film.

Then there's my own experience, I've been trying to lose weight, and I know that most things labelled as 'Healthy Eating', dietary supplements, nutritional bars, and low calorie meals are just as much junk as any other food. Why, for all the truth that's on some of the packaging, they might as well write 'Santa Claus eats this product too'.

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 5:55:49 PM   
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Damn tree-hugging granola eating scum.

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RE: Kellogg Bends Over For Parents Who Don't Make Thier... - 6/15/2007 5:59:39 PM   
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Bottom lien you don't liek what they sell? Don't eat it and don't knock anyone's choice to do so. My last roommate used to do that whenever i brought McD's home and you know what I said? "Kiss my ass mr bulk powder." Its all about choice


If they put arsenic in your food to make it taste better and yet did not inform you of how much was in it, or what it actually does to you, would you still feel the same way?

A lot of additives and perservatives are terrible for you, so are partially hydrogenated oils... it is hard to take responsibility when food companies fight tooth and nail to keep from telling us what is in their food... like they did with transfats and MSG. Now it is up to a company how they want to market their food and how they want to prepare it.... organic is extremely popular, even Walmart wants in on that action... it is market forces more than anything else that will make fast food healthier... no one with a lick of sense wants to eat that garbage, why do you think that MickeyDs is trying to revamp their image? Sales... sales... sales.. and as we become more informed about what franken food does, the less we will eat it

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