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juliaoceania -> RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance end? (6/19/2007 10:06:29 PM)

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Honestly, Julia... if i simply explained why i posted this thread the way i did, wouldn't  you (and probably a few others) have called it an excuse? 



Actually I am trying to become like my Daddy in that regard, tune out excuses... it really does not matter to me why you posted it. I was just pointing out there were probably better ways of dealing with this issue than this thread.... I pointed out two ways, I am sure there are other ways that may have been helpful.. why you posted it is not even an issue for me so I doubt I would have responded to your reasons for doing so.

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i have been called self-righteous by some of the most self-righteous hypocrites on this board.  With the exception of one, i have not slammed, demeaned or attempted to humiliate anyone on this thread. 

Instead of seeing the glaring issue with what was posted, you all are too busy beating me up about my 'judgmental intolerance'.


Actually I was pointing out that we were accused of being too tolerant by you when you have exhibited the exact same behavior as the rest of us. I do not know if you are self righteous, and I believe the person this thread is about might differ with you on whether or not this thread demeaned her relationship whether you intended it or not. And it is a relationship she is committed to, whether you approve of it or not. Instead of being regretful that you may have been hurtful to her you exhibit animosity towards her when she posts on this thread. That is not very helpful. I am just calling it like I see it.


I am not attempting to "beat up on you", not everyone will agree or perceive things the same way.. I do not think you are evil, although it is my opinion (like you have yours) that you would be better served by not worrying about what you read on the internet.. there are women's shelters and rape hotlines that always need volunteers that are dedicated to helping women.



angelic -> RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance end? (6/19/2007 10:06:40 PM)

~Stands up and applaudes~ while laughing her ass off!!!



juliaoceania -> RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance end? (6/19/2007 10:10:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: velvetears

domiguy you remind me of the class clown - every class has one, they have to be funny all the time because they don't know of any other way to get people to notice and like them... they are cute and funny for a while.... then they just become pains in the a**   *shifts uncomfortably in her chair*  You keep complaining like a whiny little school girl and have nothing constructive to add.... you keep addressing the op when she can't even read your posts, how mature is that?  If you don't like the thread... well don't let the door bang you on the ass on your way out... taa taa


That is weird, because all of his funning and joking around, I never found him at all amusing until very recently... *shrugs*... we all have different opinions about people... and yes domiguy has started to grow on me, but I am unsure of whether or not this is like a fungal infection or a good thing...



velvetears -> RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance end? (6/19/2007 10:24:49 PM)

julia i am all for humor and having fun on the threads, although i admit i am rather serious till i get to know you well enough to show my more humorous side (yes i do have one) but his use of it is to simply be mean, demean, humiliate, put down, say things passive agressively, and add to a thread by not really committing  to it by saying anything real... That's not humor that's hostility draped in a funny clown costume.



angelic -> RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance end? (6/19/2007 10:28:10 PM)

Julia, again we are simply going to have to agree to disagree.  In my earlier post, i specifically stated 'with the exception of one'.  i'm not sure who you thought i was referring to but it was prop.  i do not feel badly at all about what i said to her.  Not in the slightest, Julia.  If that offends you, sobeit.  If my tolerance level has been reached when we have new people joining this site daily, when they may not know or understand WIITWD and they come here to learn and then sees what she posts here... yes you are damn right i think it's wrong.  You do not have to agree with me... i am not asking that you do. 



angelic -> RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance end? (6/19/2007 10:30:23 PM)

Julia, instead of assuming (since i truly do not see what domiguy is saying) have you recently found him funny from this thread?  Or just generally speaking?



domiguy -> RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance end? (6/19/2007 11:21:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: velvetears

domiguy you remind me of the class clown - every class has one, they have to be funny all the time because they don't know of any other way to get people to notice and like them... they are cute and funny for a while.... then they just become pains in the a**   *shifts uncomfortably in her chair*  You keep complaining like a whiny little school girl and have nothing constructive to add.... you keep addressing the op when she can't even read your posts, how mature is that?  If you don't like the thread... well don't let the door bang you on the ass on your way out... taa taa


Observations from the whiny school girl  *shifts uncomfortably in her chair because I think I might be starting my first period*

First off, I imagine angelic has read every post...Second off, does it really matter?  How mature is it that everyone who has questioned her logic or asked nicely for more information has been accused or attacking her or been blocked?

For some reason I getting the feeling that you don't care much for this whiny school girl....Well I might be a little insecure about my padded bra and these cramps are quite frankly killing me but I could really care less.

You come out thinking that the reasons you gave for interjecting yourself into someone elses life would be found to be reasonable....And when your judgement was questioned, just like the op, you got pissed.

I have seen your posts where you rant on and on once your opinion has been questioned by others....This is nothing new.  Perhaps it's time to let others in on your humorous side, for it might be more becoming.

I am capable of being mean. I am capable of being incredibly nice.  I do wish I had more tolerance and less of a wacked out sense of humor.

I have never blocked a soul out here...It's just not that serious and who knows maybe they will have something to add out here in the future that might possibly be of interest...Or add in some way positively or negatively to a conversation.

You have to face the fire out here when you start a thread like the op did....All people asked was for clarification that she wouldn't or couldn't provide.

*whiny little school girl plays uneasily with her Hello Kitty necklace* 

So velvet take care and don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.........I'm not sure if the door consented to that type of activity.  But I'm sure you will give it an intervenion either way.



ownedgirlie -> RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance end? (6/19/2007 11:56:34 PM)

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Level -> RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance end? (6/20/2007 3:31:46 AM)

DG, don't ever lose the "wacked out sense of humor".



KatyLied -> RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance end? (6/20/2007 4:23:03 AM)

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don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.........I'm not sure if the door consented to that type of activity.  But I'm sure you will give it an intervenion either way.


Oh, that is almost too much for a Wednesday morning.[8D]



RCdc -> RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance end? (6/20/2007 4:32:42 AM)

Now I am completely confused what the fuck this thread is about.
It's now about prop?  Or am I just completely out the loop-de-loop here?

angelic, if this was about 'saving' someone who admitted to being 'mentally incapable' I would have had more respect for you had you come straight out and posted the thread what you really meant it to be about rather than take some side line and hope it would start people pointing fingers.  It's not about being self righteous, or judgemental intollerence, it's about the underhanded way its all panned out.

ok - rant on now coz this has just really pissed me off and I rarely get pissed off.

I have never seen so much mud slinging and name calling and labelling.  Just because people don't agree with your (generic) personal ideas - what gives anyone power to through names around in an underhand way like 'class clown' or 'condecending' (yeah hands up thats me) or 'self righteous', or a 'put downer' - christ this is like a school yard.  Is this all this was, a thread to start pointing fingers at individuals?

Fuck the block button - that's like standing there with your fingers in your ears going 'lalala' with your eyes screwed tight shut like everything is going to go away.  People aren;t fucking perfection artists.  Just people.  Truth is if you don't like people responding - don't post - that simple - but don't make stupid remarks about 'I'm blocking so and so and making a public anouncement about it' Just do the fucking thing... don't suggest people block you.  Just put up or shut up - and if THATS seen as condecending I really couldn't give a rats arse.
and domi - I agree with Level.

Peace
the.dark.



Level -> RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance end? (6/20/2007 4:37:37 AM)

*waves to Katy and dark as I head for the showers*
 
Have a great day, my friends.



SeeksOnlyOne -> RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance end? (6/20/2007 5:11:22 AM)

i sit down,innocently enough, with coffee and begin to read.......i am almost embarrassed to tell that i have read every post on this thread.....

so now my 2 cents.....something happened in front of the op-that she could have changed by calling the cops immediately, and she did nothing.

yet she wants to save someone who is nothing more than a font on a website to her....

how any of this has to do with kink is beyond me......if i see someone getting their ass kicked on peachtree street, i will intervene by calling the cops.......if i saw someone getting their ass beat at a bdsm club, i would not.

if i see a minor being hurt in any way, i would always intervene....you had a chance to do something right, by alerting the cops that 2 children were in danger and you chose to do nothing....and after choosing to do nothing, you post this on a board, hoping to being help to someone you have never met and are concerned about their "well-being"

to me, and this is my opinion only, this is basically the same thing as a keyboard commando.  in real life they are a wimp and will do nothing, but behind the anonymity of my keyboard i shall save you, dom you, submit to you, hell i will even darn yer socks cyberly.

i sense this is all about attention for someone who needs it desperately, and it seems to have worked...i fought the urge to reply but i lost.

sighs[sm=banghead.gif]




velvetears -> RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance end? (6/20/2007 6:20:17 AM)

[edited out cause it got doubled posted when i tried to edit for spelling errors]



velvetears -> RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance end? (6/20/2007 6:30:08 AM)


FR

domiguy, if i saw someting constructive in what you say perhaps i would take you more seriously, but all you do is use your humor as a veil to put others down.  You make assumptions about me being pissed - sorry to dash your hopes but i have not been pissed throughout this thread, maybe a tad disappointed at how some people chose to handle their "confusion".  You asked for clarification on a post i made and i was polite enough to respond to you nicely. i clarified some things for dark as well when she misunderstood based on a word - although really it didn't much affect the content of the post much, but i gave her the benefit of the doubt and agreed the better word would have been bbq.  i didn't give my specifc example for debate, i gave it to assit the op as people were asking her for examples. i thought of one, did you even try to put it in context to the original op angelic made, no, you never had any intention of doing so. You don't like what she has to say and you don't agree with her, so your little clown act starts up. You don't open people up to dialogue and discussion with veiled insults and passive agresive humor, i don't care one way or another how you post, or why you post, i don't have to push any button to ignore you but i certainly don't have to like or agree with your methods. 

dark, maybe you need more sleep or something because i have never seen you so confused by a thread as much as this one.   Sorry if i don't quite buy it.  Maybe you're just not reading carefuly because it was made clear fairly early on this was about prop.  i called domi a clown and it wasn't said in an underhanded way - i out and out said - "you are like the class clown."  You call that mud slinging but he can call angelic "not intelligent" and me a "ranter" but i suppose because his humor tickles your funny bone, or he's a "friend" thats ok, i suppose that's to be expected, we are as you say in a school yard and that is how children think.  i also suggest you start following your own sage advice - if you don't like people responding, don't post.  i suppose calling angelics remarks "stupid" isn't a part of your mud slinging accusation now is it... or is the slinging only ok if it flies one way?  Oh and btw it's not "mentally incapable" it's "mentally incompetant", important difference, you wouldn't want to mislead anyone or add to this "confusion" Angelic's post, if you care to really try to understand her isn't just about prop, there was an issue she wanted to discuss and since it seemed to offend people the attack, confusion, nit picking, mud slinging as you termed it started. 

If people want to announce they are blocking who are you to tell them how they should do it, by not announcing it, they have every right in the world to tell the person who offends them they are blocking them and if that bothers you - take a chill pill.  



juliaoceania -> RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance end? (6/20/2007 6:32:47 AM)

You seem very adept at insulting people too velvetears, I am reading quite a few insults from you, and if you are not upset, I would hate to be in your path when you are.

I sincerely hope that you do not believe your opinions about domiguy and dark are universally shared by everyone on this board, because your assessments of both of them seem way off base to me.

And btw, it is kinda amusing to see someone call domiguy passive aggressive... it is something that I have been accused of many many times wrongly. Domiguy maybe aggressive (I can be too at times), but  passive aggressive is making threads about people and not naming them. I just thought I would give you one of many examples of passive aggressive behavior.

and this comment

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dark, maybe you need more sleep or something because i have never seen you so confused by a thread as much as this one.   Sorry if i don't quite buy it.



if it was made out of a place of not being angry, well like I said, I would hate to be in your path when you are angry... it was truly uncalled for in my opinion (you see I do not think my opinion is a universal one)



KatyLied -> RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance end? (6/20/2007 6:37:09 AM)

We need an emote that says "your passive-agressive is showing".  It would come in handy around here.  



velvetears -> RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance end? (6/20/2007 6:43:07 AM)

no julia i don't, i know they are "the popular kids on the block" that doesn't change how i will interact with them.  Thanks for the heads up on what passive aggressive behavior is, i still think domi fits that bill in trying to veil everything in humor so he can't be directly called on an insult, quite clever way to be mean and yet not mean at the same time.

The comment to dark wasn't made out of anger.  i just don't get her confusion, shes pretty intelligent and i am fairly certain knows exactly whats been said here.  Lot's of things on these  boards julia are "uncalled for", your point is?? 



RCdc -> RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance end? (6/20/2007 7:12:06 AM)

Er - where did I call angelics post stupid? (Not that I am expecting a response).  But if I did, I am quite able to apologise to her, because there isn't a thing as a stupid question.  Annying maybe, but not stupid.
 
And if you read my post properly you would have seen I also included the angelics name calling - something you try and overlook and misrepresent yet again because I was writing my POV not defending or supporting anyone.  I do not take sides because people don't need defending - I tend to give people more credit and respect than that.  I don't know domi and nope - not in his 'clique' if thats the path you are going down, and if I find him funny or not has no relevance to this thread or this message board because I am perfectly sure he really couldn't give a baboons blue who finds him funny.  He is just himself.  At least he says things to a persons face and doesn't skirt around an issue using a pseudo 'situation'.
 
As for needing sleep (yet another patronising, passive-aggressive from yourself) I know prop was mentioned, but I was trying to keep to the OPs 'general' question (you know - when is enough enough?) and not get personal in an underhanded way.  It might work for you, but I work on asking someone direct - probably that's why I can come across as condecending... meh.  That works for me hey.
 
I have no need to'heed my own advice' to ignore posts or don't post, because what you say to me here is discussion and I don't take offense to what you have to say to me as an individual... I just say that take the shit and deal with it or shut up.
 
You have a problem with prop and the way she is dominated/owned/managed?  Go say it to her face(or mailbox), don't drag her through this kind of disrespectful shit in public hoping you get enough people on side to start a witch hunt for her Daddy.
 
Not once have you even responded to half the questions people here have asked of you on this thread and others, but you continue to berate and attack people who you don't feel 'welcomed' by or 'in their friends'.  Which is just the most ridiculous repeated stance - erin and I have rarely agreed for example... we have drawn spoons on various posts - we have discussed and argued and plain ole disagreed (even to the point of fistiecuffs[;)]) - but by god she is one fine woman and I have the honour to call her my friend... something that quite plainly, with the way you treat others and post, I will never be able to call you. (which I am sure you are probably shedding tears over right now[;)])
 
Anyway - am done.  I gotta go perv Level in the showers.
 
Peace
the.dark.



Aileen68 -> RE: When is enough, enough…..or where does acceptance end? (6/20/2007 7:37:18 AM)

Oooh...Level's in the shower.  Where?



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