RE: Help me to understand your mind

Collarspace Discussion Forums

Home Login Search

RE: Help me to understand your mind

View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest

All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Ask a Submissive >> RE: Help me to understand your mind

Page: << < prev 1 2 [3]

Message

<< Older Topic Newer Topic >>

RE: Help me to understand your mind - 6/18/2007 3:34:43 PM

HypnoticDan

Posts: 463
Joined: 5/23/2007
Status: offline

quote:

"why do you think you have to feel the same sensation, or identify with a mindset in opposition to yours, firsthand, in order to be able to understand, accept or appreciate it?"

Well that's only partly true. I already accept and appreciate it. It's the understanding I don't have. "Firsthand" is probably the key word.
I think I'll just have to flog a lot of bottoms (pun intended) and get a better "feel" for it.

quote:

This is a fools mission. Your time would be better spent getting to know yourself.

I never claimed I wasn't a fool. :) I can't control others until I control myself. I can't control myself until I understand myself. This has been one of my guiding principles for many years. I completely agree that admiting failure(s) is critical to success - that's why I started this thread in the first place.

quote:

Seeking "understanding" is akin to seeking "dogma".

Dogma and understanding do not require each other. I don't know how you make this comparison. Many people go looking for understanding and stop when they reach dogma, but that doesn't mean the two searches are the same thing.

Thanks to all who replied. I think I have a better grip on the situation now. Certainly in the time this thread has been active I've given it a lot of thought and I am now comfortable with the idea of receiving pleasure through viole- ...erm, abu?- ...no... stupid limited language... ... Aha! "Aggressive affection".

(in reply to Celeste43)

Profile

Post #: 41

RE: Help me to understand your mind - 6/18/2007 4:46:19 PM

Mercnbeth

Posts: 11766
Status: offline

Dan,
Please don't misinterpret. Referencing you were on a "fool's errand" isn't calling you a fool. I'm on a lifelong "fool's errand" of being totally financially independent without working. Similar to my ambition, understanding the mind of submissive isn't going to happen, but working toward that goal is a good method of learning.

The reference to associating "understanding" with "dogma" was pointing to the common factor I think they share. Understanding one submissive or slave doesn't provide or give you universal understand of every sub/slave you'll encounter. Similarly our "dogma" only fits us. Nothing wrong with considering either one submissive or one relationship as a reference but in both cases they don't make you an "expert"; therefore don't accomplish what you stated as a desire.

quote:

... stupid limited language..."Agressive affection".

I share your frustration in making written words express my position clearly and concisely. Obviously - especially the concise part.

(in reply to HypnoticDan)

Profile

Post #: 42

RE: Help me to understand your mind - 6/18/2007 6:39:05 PM

Viciousbabe

Posts: 61
Joined: 5/15/2006
Status: offline

I love canes, whips, crops, etc etc. Not because I love the pain that comes with it, though it does help to turn me on. Physical violence to me sounds more like you putting her head through a wall. I like the play, but I will not stand for abuse. Sound weird? Here's a better explanation:

I was with a Dom who regularly would use belts on me, whether it was for play or punishment. Of course, one hurt more than the other. I loved looking at the marks and realizing that I could get through it, and knowing all the while he was there for me. At one point, he was truly beating me and a mole was scraped off...he knew I was bleading and simply told me to put a shirt on and get in bed...but not to get blood on his sheets.

At that point in time, I went to the bathroom and finally got the bleeding under control in about 10 min...and if memory serves me right I went into my room and slept. I told him the next morning that what he did was in fact abuse and that if it was an accident and he really cared, he would have made sure I was alright. It was also then I told him I would be looking for another place to live.

*Edited because I'm a blond and it the ok button*

The moral to the story is to be careful when you do start inflicting pain that it doesn't cross the line.

< Message edited by Viciousbabe -- 6/18/2007 6:40:11 PM >

(in reply to HypnoticDan)

Profile

Post #: 43