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Evlgryn -> RE: Is being a fiesty submissive a bad thing? (6/22/2007 11:55:47 PM)
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ORIGINAL: TEMPERANCE
Im curious to know how Masters view submissives that are fiesty and confident women.
I have often read that Dominants enjoy the challenge of a submissive that is not a naturally a submissive individual... it has often been descibed as exciting and well worth the challenge when the submission is finally gained. However, in reality... it does not appear to be as such. Im aware of several submissives that fit the lable of 'fiesty' and experience great difficulty in the search for a Master.
It would seem that some Masters feel threathened by the percieved dominance of the submissive and others just feel that the time and effort required maybe just a little too much.... i would be most interested in how others view this.
Thank you
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ORIGINAL: imthatacheyouhav
Oh God i hope not...LOL..Master seems to not only love my fiestyness...but He welcomes it...i guess its part of my charm....LOL
In the "Taming of the Shrew", the bard spun us a tale of a man investing considerable time and effort to first break and then remake a woman who was more than fiesty, but "shrewish". No I don't spend much time in the theater but anyone can get the Richard Burton, Elizabeth Taylor version in a video store or library. Taylor portrays so thorny a personality: that we are supposed to believe nobody was willing to bed the young Elizabeth Taylor (Not the older Taylor, Whose afraid of Virginia Wolf). And that has to be some hellacious personality flaws to overlook those eyes and her "points of interest". His reward, once he won her hear,t her mind, and the crux of her being , was a more devoted, more capable, and more genuine partner than the other gals. Event though they were previously thought to be the more valuable properties. Her devotion to her lord and master puts the others to shame. Maybe it is a bit like that.
I have been served by one or two "feisty", strong willed submissives. It is not that I am drawn to the challenge of beating down stong, and accomplished women, I don't like to work that hard. I am simply attracted to strong and accomplished women when they are willing or can be compelled to serve me. I don't like dishrag women, any more than I would pursue having a sexual partner whose hips dislocated easily (don't ask). On the plus side of the scale, the women I like intimidate a lot of doms. But I don't intimidate easily, which makes me a big fish in a small pond. It also means I don't have to get by on my innate charm and manly good looks, it is always good to have an edge.
I am dominant, I tend to suck all the oxygen out of a room, I need a woman who isn't afraid to hold her breath. I would confuse a woman with a mediocre intellect, leave speachless a woman with less to say, bowl over a woman who was less grounded. I want to beat and tickle and stroke a woman to the point where she abandons fear, false modesty, ego and all other issues and meets me joyously in the middle. . I want to push her to the edge and beyond, where she is just hereslf with no pretensions. Then hear her hum there, sing there, hanging over the precipice dangling held up by my will and my touch, and come back with a greater understanding of herself and her place in the universe.
I don't want someone who fades away; asking nothing, contributing nothing. I have seen the dance of dominance and submission ( perhaps compounded by the inability to embrace their own sexuality) push a woman to the threshold, and find her unequal to the task: leave her staring at the abyss counting to herself a mantra of the seconds passing until she can crawl back from the edge. Enduring ungraciously the time she is forced to wait until she can weave a warm cocoon around herself. Get a more comfortable man or a large drink.
To be a slave requires the strength to stand totally naked. To have your understanding of self, your will to serve and your bond with your owner be your only clothing against the cosmic cold. In search of those qualities I can live with feisty. I can even loose a few arguments (very few).
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