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BitaTruble -> RE: One Month to Harry Potter, Book Seven! (6/21/2007 10:46:48 PM)
~FR~ Ok, first, I don't believe it's logical for Harry to be a horcrux. Keep in mind that each horcrux contained 1/7 of Voldemorts soul, and each horcrux had to be prepared to accept that portion of soul. V's purpose in going to the Potters that night was to kill Harry, not make a horcrux out of him. Each horcrux has to be destroyed to finally get rid of V. Also, remember the prophesy. Neither can live while the other survives. For Harry to be a horcrux and 'live' defeats the purpose of V trying to live forever since he would want, above all, the horcrux's protected, not destroyed and he did try to kill Harry in Goblet of Fire. That doesn't make sense if Harry is a horcrux. I think Aunt Petunia is probably a witch who refused to accept/exert her powers. I do think she'll play a larger part in the final book especially since 'home' with the Dursley's is what's kept Harry alive all these years and might even come up with a spell or two at a critical juncture. Harry has his mothers eyes.. and I'm wondering if Auntie Petunia doesn't have those same eyes as well.. and if so, where did those two ladies get those eyes? hmmmmmm.. in OOTP, it was made pretty clear that most wizarding families were connected in some way or another so that's something that's made me think, but I don't have any theory on it. I'll just say that it wouldn't surprise me if Harry were related to a prominant family.. or two. Albus is dead. I cried, but he's dead. ::sniff:: Standard hero/mentor fare that one. RAB - unless they are introducing a new character with those initials, I think it has got to be Sirius' brother. I'm not as convinced that Sirius is dead given that Harry heard voices behind the curtain which Sirius fell through. Maybe in another dimension or something, so we may see him resurface. (I can always hope!) I'm pretty convinced we'll be taken back to the Ministry of Magic in Book 7. Snape might die protecting Draco and I do think one of the DA is going to die. I'm hoping it's not Ron or Herm, possibly Neville jumping in the line of fire when Harry is about to get it (that Neville kid has some courage that's been a bit underplayed) but one of Harry's friends is sure to die. That's it for me for now. I'm almost done with rereading the series again and will probably read it once more all the way through before the movie comes out. I'm much more excited about the book than the movie, but still, I'm looking forward to both. :) Celeste

litleone8620 -> RE: One Month to Harry Potter, Book Seven! (6/21/2007 11:01:14 PM)
Here's what I think happened with the Horcrux. I think the night V went to kill HP he was going to make the 7th and final horcrux. I think that V had prepared himself for this, he'd left himself open and vulnerable. Remember, when V tried to kill HP, some of his powers transfered. I think that part of V's soul was transfered to HP in the process. It was entirely accidental. It makes sense if Voldemort doesn't know Harry is a horcrux. You also have to remember that Voldemort thinks no one knows about the horcruxes. So, even if Harry was a horcrux Voldemort wouldn't know, and therefore there would be no reason for V to not kill Harry.

DomKen -> RE: One Month to Harry Potter, Book Seven! (6/21/2007 11:37:47 PM)
HP speculation has been one of my favorite past times the last month or so. My current theories: Snape isn't truly good but he is opposed to Voldemort. I think it all boils down to Lily. Lily was kind to him in the memory that Snape tried to hide from Harry. Everyone assumes Snape didn't want Harry to see his father abuse Snape but if they had been rivals for their entire career at scholl and both were throwing hexes at the other then surely Snape must have many bitter memories of being mistreated by James. So I think what is important about that memory was that someone stood up for Snape and was kind to him. When he overheard the prophecy and passed it on to Voldemort he may not have known about Harry being born or he may have believed Voldemort would go after the two prominent pureblood aurors who had just had a child. It is only sometime after he has passed on the prophecy and become a teacher at Hogwarts that he turns on Voldemort. Dumbledore said he believed the change of heart was true but wouldn't explain why. Dumbledore always put a great deal of weight on love and Snape turning traitor on Voldermort to try and save Lily is something Dumbledore would understand but wouldn't tell others to protect Snape from being embarrased. It seems likely that the first bit of intelligence Snape passed to the Order was that Voldemort sought the Potters causing them to perform the ill fated Fidelius charm. Further evidence for my theory lies in Snapes behavior throughout the series. He seems to hate Harry and be particularly unhappy with his resemblance to James but he protected Harry in the quidditch match in the first book. Snape also seems to dislike meeting Harry's gaze in several places in the series, why? Is it that he just can't bear seeing Lily's eyes? Harry and the Horcrux. I think he is the last one. Obviously Voldemort didn't plan on making him into one but he did plan on making the 7th one once he had fulfilled the prophecy by killing Harry. Presumably the spell is a fairly complicated ritual which is only completed once the murder has happened. When the avada kedavra backfired against Harry, Voldemort had recently murdered both of Harry's parents so that part was finished and in that instant as Voldemort's body was destroyed the ritual completed and Harry absorbed that 7th piece of Voldemort's soul. This would explain the way Harry's scar reacts to Voldemort as well as his ability to see into Voldemorts mind on occasion as well as why Harry is a parselmouth. In the end I think Harry will have to destroy himself to defeat Voldemort. Who else will die? I think Hermione is doomed. She will die to save Ron. Neville might die but I think it is equally likely he will kill Bellatrix as revenge for what she did to his parents. Snape and Draco are also ones I wouldn't be shocked to see die.

BitaTruble -> RE: One Month to Harry Potter, Book Seven! (6/22/2007 12:12:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: litleone8620 Here's what I think happened with the Horcrux. I think the night V went to kill HP he was going to make the 7th and final horcrux. I think that V had prepared himself for this, he'd left himself open and vulnerable. Remember, when V tried to kill HP, some of his powers transfered. I think that part of V's soul was transfered to HP in the process. It was entirely accidental. It makes sense if Voldemort doesn't know Harry is a horcrux. You also have to remember that Voldemort thinks no one knows about the horcruxes. So, even if Harry was a horcrux Voldemort wouldn't know, and therefore there would be no reason for V to not kill Harry. The problem with this scenario is that we know from the conversation which Albus has with Harry in book 6 (after retriving the memory from Slughorn) regarding the horcrux' that Nigini is the final horcrux (the 6th, not 7th.. one remained with V, remember?) made years later after she killed the muggle so the only missing horcrux was actually made before the night that V went to kill Harry. Also, creating a horcrux required more than just a death, it required the proper spell as well and that wasn't cast when V tried to kill Harry that night. It requires very dark magic to make a horcrux and Harry was protected by his mothers love so for V to accidently make Harry into a horcrux via dark magic and against the power of Lily's love all without casting the needed spell just doesn't make sense to me. But, JK may have a twisted mind, so.. who knows? lol Celeste

calamitysandra -> RE: One Month to Harry Potter, Book Seven! (6/22/2007 4:05:26 AM)
We do not really know about the horcruxes. If there are seven, if Nagini is one and such. All we know about the remaining ones is what Dumbledore assumes. And we know, that Dumbledore does make mistakes. And rather big and dangerous ones at that. As for RAB, Rowling has confirmed (more or less) that it is Sirius brother. And yes, she did write the last chapter years ago, but she has also confirmed that it has changed alot. 2 characters die that she did not forsee and one gets a reprieve. But the last word is still "scar".

juliaoceania -> RE: One Month to Harry Potter, Book Seven! (6/22/2007 6:04:00 AM)
I am a big Harry Potter fan, although I do not have the time presently to reread the entire series before the last book comes out... I have considered that Dumbledore is not dead, and that was why Snape "killed" him... stranger things have happened

juliaoceania -> RE: One Month to Harry Potter, Book Seven! (6/22/2007 6:05:15 AM)
I have missed you Celeste, welcome back!

juliaoceania -> RE: One Month to Harry Potter, Book Seven! (6/22/2007 6:07:38 AM)
quote: First, J.K. said... somewhere... that dead is dead. Secondly, and more importantly, in this kind of fantasy genre the mentor always has to go away because the hero ultimately has to stand alone. Obi-wan died. Dumbledore died. Not always, in the Wheel of Time books the mentor lives on in another dimension which she is rumored to return again one day

QuietlySeeking -> RE: One Month to Harry Potter, Book Seven! (6/22/2007 6:31:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania quote: First, J.K. said... somewhere... that dead is dead. Secondly, and more importantly, in this kind of fantasy genre the mentor always has to go away because the hero ultimately has to stand alone. Obi-wan died. Dumbledore died. Not always, in the Wheel of Time books the mentor lives on in another dimension which she is rumored to return again one day The difference here is that in Wheel of Time, the characters assumed her dead. The author never confirmed Morraine was. In addition, the Heroes of Legend, including Birgitte are dead. Birgitte is "reborn" if you will and a bonded warder. Ergo, dead is not necessarily "dead" in Wheel of Time. JK has CONFIRMED that Dumbledore is dead. If he were still alive, the Headmaster's office would still be his and his portrait would not hang (as former headmaster's portraits do) in the Headmaster's Office.

farglebargle -> RE: One Month to Harry Potter, Book Seven! (6/22/2007 6:35:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: litleone8620 Do you have proof of this outrageous accusation? It'll be revealed in the first of the Harry Potter PREQUEL movies, to be released in about 15 years.

TrueSubFakedOut -> RE: One Month to Harry Potter, Book Seven! (6/22/2007 6:36:23 AM)
i too am waiting anxiously for the final chapter to be delivered to the stores. i also believe that Snape is a good girl disguised as evil incarnate. Dumbledore is his Master of sorts and i truellu believe that in the end he will be seen in this manner. As for Ron and Hermione, i could care less, she is disrespectful of him. i could see her as a Domme tho whipping rons ass red. Harry on the other hand i believe he has to die, Not for plot or bringing the story full circle , but for Rowling not to have her work hacked to death in the future by some money hungry fool who thinks they can create more chapters to this "Almost Perfect in everyway Creation". Just my opinion, and we all know the line about those, Be well A/all.

CrimsonMoan -> RE: One Month to Harry Potter, Book Seven! (6/22/2007 7:12:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MadameMajidah quote: ORIGINAL: CrimsonMoan Welll other than a mass of people and a velvet rope and guest list what more would we need? The room would provide everything. And i just went to look for a site and of course its down which means i will have to hunt down certain stories if they are archived elesewhere. [:(] and i know most slash fans are squicked by MPREG, but damnit if it doesn't make me feel just a bit better readign about men goign through what every female has and will go through possibly. You want one that wll blow you're mind look up brother were art thou ron/draco lucius/whatever the fuck ron's dad's name which escapes me at the moment. Interestign plot twist. Mpreg leavs room for plenty of twist and turns liek Harry being james and sirius' son and lily just a cover to protect the boy. I say if you are willign to read slah you must open your mind to the possibility of male pregnancy ESPECIALLY in a world of magic :P I just finished an MPREG. Dumbledore rapes harry, and then harry ends up on Voldemort's side..another Dumbledore is evil fic. yeah i have read a few that i like but very few. Usually the more outrageous the pairing the funnier the slash, but again and again I say NO SNAPE/? pairings. and I just choose to ignore any involving Volde in a good light. moony and padfoot fuck under the full moon. turns on padfoot is a girl. few months later siruis gives birth to a happy healthy puppy. [&:] back tot he story i read ONE theory I think was on www.mugglenet.com that suggests that Harry might find a way to defeat Voldemort WITHOUT killing him. The theory goes on in that to destroy him without killing him Harry finds away to destroy all magic. Everyone lives but they all become muggles, this includes lord Moldybutt and they all have to learn how to cope without their magick. Another i saw elsewhere suggested Voldermort actually manages to kill Harry, but harry's last bit of strength and power was used to strip Voldey of every laast bit of magick making him a muggle. And of course there is the old kill voldermort and move on :P Anyone want better endings to the dark lord look up any fics post final battle.

mypath2lvgD -> RE: One Month to Harry Potter, Book Seven! (6/22/2007 7:25:53 AM)
Finally caught up reading all the posts. There are some really good theories being thrown around. I am not sure what JK has planned but I do hope that it does not involve killing off Harry. When Sirius died, I cried and cried. I couldn't believe how dark of a turn the books were taking. When I first starting reading the books, there were already four released. So I read them back to back and when I finished it took time to adjust from the darkness that was seeping in more and more with each book. I am very excited about the next book and the movie. For the movie it is a tradition that I take my nephew and my daughters to see it on opening weekend. For the book my nephew and I will make a midnight trip to get our copies and then have a race to see who can finish reading it first. The books are great for all ages and will suck in from page one. JK Rowling is a wonderfully imaginative writer and I hope that even if she no longer writes HP books she will write more for all of us to enjoy.

calamitysandra -> RE: One Month to Harry Potter, Book Seven! (6/22/2007 7:53:04 AM)
Oh, one thing I did forget to mention: Normally, Avada Kedavra is acompanied by a green light. However, when Snape curses Dumbledore on the Astronomy Tower, the light is red. Gives me a pause.

farglebargle -> RE: One Month to Harry Potter, Book Seven! (6/22/2007 7:54:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mypath2lvgD Finally caught up reading all the posts. There are some really good theories being thrown around. I am not sure what JK has planned but I do hope that it does not involve killing off Harry. When Sirius died, I cried and cried. I couldn't believe how dark of a turn the books were taking. Don't Worry. Harry's Dad will hook up with this animatronic rasta dood, which will provide much comic relief in the prequel movies ... Plenty of laughs ahead!

juliaoceania -> RE: One Month to Harry Potter, Book Seven! (6/22/2007 8:21:01 AM)
Are you combining Buckaroo Banzi with Harry Potter? What is so wrong...

farglebargle -> RE: One Month to Harry Potter, Book Seven! (6/22/2007 8:25:34 AM)
There weren't any anamatronic rastas in Buckaroo Banzai. That was a REAL Rasta. Think "What Filmmaker Shit On All Our Childhoods With His Greed?" Here's another hint: Darth Vader: Turn to the dark side and join me. Luke Skywalker:I’ll never join you, you killed my father! Darth Vader:No Luke I am your father! Luke Skywalker:That’s not true! That’s impossible! Darth Vader:And princess Leia is your sister. Luke Skywalker:That’s not true, that’s... improbable... Darth Vader:And the empire will be defeated by Ewoks. Luke Skywalker:That’s… very unlikely... Darth Vader:And as a child, I built C3P0. Luke Skywalker:…Huh? Later… Luke is smoking a cigarette and Vader is drinking a cup of coffee. Darth Vader:And the force, well that’s just microscopic bacteria in your bloodstream called mitichloria... Luke Skywalker:Look, if you’re not going to take this seriously, I’m out of here.

CrimsonMoan -> RE: One Month to Harry Potter, Book Seven! (6/22/2007 8:34:21 AM)
and techinically Anakin did bring balance to the force. before the scales were tipped heavily into the light side TOO MANY FREAKING JEDI after his lil ledicide it became balanced there were few jedi as there were few sith. And now back to harry potter If and i mean big IF they did a prequal it would be pretty awesome to get a good look and feel for the marauders at their peek

calamitysandra -> RE: One Month to Harry Potter, Book Seven! (6/22/2007 8:39:45 AM)
I would love to see Dumbledores story put into a book. But as of now, Rowling says that the only thing she can imagine herself writing is a composium of all the background work she did and never wrote into the books. Proceedings for charity.

farglebargle -> RE: One Month to Harry Potter, Book Seven! (6/22/2007 9:00:33 AM)
Give her a decade or two... Lucas didn't NEED to go back and screw everything up. He chose to. More evidence that People are fucked up in the head. We learn: Yoda is the dumbest fucking General Ever. And Vader is a whiny little bitch, just like his son. The only thing GOOD about the entire fiasco, was Genndy Tartakovsky's Clone Wars run. That fucking rocked. So: Star Wars -> Empire Strikes Back -> Return of the Jedi UNTIL Leia takes off the metal bikini. It's downhill from there, and there's no REAL reason to watch anything past that UNTIL Clone Wars. Back to HP, though. The whole British Class thing creeps me out.

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