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charismagirrl -> RE: There's on such thing as a "true master" or "true slave" (6/23/2007 12:38:07 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Shylahgirl
What the fuck is a “True Master/Mistress”? What the fuck is a “True sub/slave”?
IMO it has to do more with being true to yourself and your nature than fitting into some kind of standardized mold. Also, what would be truely sub to one Dominant would be hopelessly not sub to another. So, as far as i'm concerned the truth is found within and within a particular dynamic.
i also look at true/real meaning that they are actually living it (or have lived it) without and not just something in fantasy
I’ve heard these terms all over the place.
I’ve had people on this web sight read my profile and tell me that I’m not a “true slave” because of the way I express my self. What makes a person ether of these things?
The way you express yourself has nothing to do with being true or not.... just ignore them
Is a “True Master/Mistress” someone who just knows how to boss around another person?
LMAO probably not so much lol. To me a true Master/Mistress has alot of self control and discipline themself and doesn't need to boss around another to make themselves feel complete or bigger.
Is a “true slave” just a door matte with no thoughts or feelings, who just does what his/she’s told then, curls up in a corner?
Maybe, if that is what their "owner" (or whomever) wants and they feel comfortable that way. This is not the only true way though as many will attest.
I’ve always believed that there is no true anything… anyone can be a submissive/slave and anyone can be a Dom/Domme… the thing that makes someone one or the other is weather the role they are in brings that person joy.
[sm=applause.gif] being true to ones self brings happiness
Then there are the people who say, “Well I wasn’t any good at being a submissive… but it’s so much easier to be a Dominant.” I know a woman who said that. When I heard that I thought to my self, “How can you be good at one if you can’t do the other reasonably well?”
Nature. my Daddy was never a sub or slave but he is strong of conviction, honorable, intelligent and has gone through much learning in life.These are things that make him a great Master FOR ME.
I see, every now and then, Master/Mistresses who say they were trained as a sub/slave before they were willing to take on a sub/slave of their own. I think that shows some humbleness on their part. Once you have lived in a role there is almost no way you can look down on another person for choosing that role.
Why would a Dominant look down on a sub or slave for choosing to be what they are? This makes no sense, it would be almost akin to them putting themselves down because without someone to submit to them they wouldn't be able to fully realize their own nature.
The “true master/slave” thing is silly… all the “true master’s” that I have spoken with always have this I’m better then you attitude. How is anyone better then anyone else?
How can a “master/mistress” look down on the one who serves them? Being a sub/slave takes immense personal power. We put our selves on or knees willingly and often times out of respect for the one we serve.
How is that weak?
The people who think that submission is weak are only speaking from inexperience and showing a big character flaw by even going there. Submission is about defering to someone else and submitting and surrendering to them.
i will say though, why would one submit to one they felt was beneath them? Personally, if my Daddy weren't smarter than i am, didn't know alot more of life lessons than me and wasn't stronger than me in so many ways then i would NEVER be able to submit to him. i wouldn't respect him the same way. This isn't putting myself down BTW anymore than saying that i am shorter than he is and younger than he is. i am just stating facts.
I’d like to see one of these “true master/mistresses” do that for a night and be able to feel what it means to really truly serve. To feel the joy a sub/slave gets from bringing another joy. To really surrender and love your self more for doing it.
Maybe if those”true master/mistresses” did that they could realize that being dominant isn’t just being able to bark orders or have someone fallow you around calling you “sir” or “ma’am”
i agree with you, the joy is amazing but they can also get alot of joy from being who they are .They may not feel it the same way a sub or slave would feel it if they were to surrender. But, to take your slave to a point and past it (in their growth) that they might never have been able to for see can also bring tremendous joy. i know my Daddy enjoys watching me grow and learn lessons and face my fears and then reminding me how i said i couldn't do it, would never do it...and watching me smile because he succeeded in taking me there. (it's just the flip side of the same coin)
Being a Master or Mistress isn’t just slapping that title on the front of your name… it must be give to you by your submissive/slave. Just as a sub/slave should earn their collar through hard work and dedication to the Master/Mistress… so should the Master/Mistress earn that title from their sub/slave.
Not sure i agree here. i do agree that it takes more to be a Master/Mistress than declaring yourself one but having to earn the title? Maybe not, in my eyes...keeping the slave or not is what it ends up boiling down to. You can proclaim that you are a M but unless your actions back it up you will be a slaveless/subless M.
Shylah
Thanks for stuff that made me think
~cherry
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