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RE: why do MISTRESSES ask for tributes ? - 6/29/2007 10:49:27 AM

shamedmale

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id second that, there are really stupid men on this site me included and we have or have in the past tributed some of the women on this site. they have advertised for the money and weve given it to them on a platter, thats why mistresses ask for tributes just my 2 cent
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RE: why do MISTRESSES ask for tributes ? - 6/29/2007 6:01:15 PM

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I don't usually ask for "tribute", but if a sub is far from me, and I have to travel to them, I refuse to foot the bill for a session with someone that may not work out. It is also a show of how strong their desire to be dominated actually is. There are also so many more male subs than Dommes, that I do give preference to those willing to give me money. I'm a college grad with a good job, I don't need the money, but it's nice to have. Tribute excess usually feeds my toy supply.

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RE: why do MISTRESSES ask for tributes ? - 6/29/2007 6:15:58 PM

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Because slaves usually don't liook like George Clooney.

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RE: why do MISTRESSES ask for tributes ? - 6/29/2007 6:56:11 PM

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That's funny. But, sadly true. Ahhhhh, but a Lady can dream....

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RE: why do MISTRESSES ask for tributes ? - 6/29/2007 8:18:25 PM

LadyAngel24

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Many Dommes get tons of messages, anywhere from 10-60 a day from subs... many of the so called "subs" are just guys online who are single... can't get a date and want a little bit of "kink" or entertainment in their life. Many are on SSI, Fat and can't get a real lady in life... Then if you do take the time to talk to them, they want hours of your time etc....

Some Dommes require a small financial gift.. tribute to weed out the fakes who are just here to play around and not really be a submissive... some Dommes require it as a thank you for the time they spend with you...

Here is a thought.. a Vanilla Boyfriend and Girlfriend..... the girlfriend would probably expect the boyfriend to buy her flowers, or small gifts once in awhile... on a first date.. or out to dinner... some kind of money spent on her..... The guy does this because he's honored she went on a date with him, or he's glad she's dating him.... Why then do subs think they should not have to spend money on the Domme? For the subs just seeking online fun etc... tribute is the way that the Domme gets the date paid for so to speak. ... Yes I know, subs think.. well if it ever gets to be offline, in person, I'll pay for the food etc... by why should the Domme spend months online chatting with a guy, spending time with him, playing with him... just to have him dissapear when it comes time for the "real thing".. if she gets a tribute or two.. then less risk he'll just up and leave....

Now.. don't get me wrong.. I realize there are "fake" Dommes out there as well.. just looking to make a buck with tribute... but just because a sub runs into a one fake Domme.. doesn't mean that all Dommes who require tributes are fake... Just like.... just because a Domme gets played by one sub doesn't mean she'll get played by all... There are equal number of fakes on both sides.. and basically it's just a matter of finding one you trust.

If you aren't into tributes, move on and keep looking, but don't assume that just because one requires it.. they are cheap, or on welfare, or fat and lazy lookign to make a buck.. not all of us are that way.

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RE: why do MISTRESSES ask for tributes ? - 6/29/2007 9:13:32 PM

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I think that some Mistresses ask for tribute because They're separating the real from the fake, but I believe more often than not, it has more to do with Their own personal finacial situations. Dominating is a good way to make money if You financially control a slave. I do not take tributes and I don't expect them.

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RE: why do MISTRESSES ask for tributes ? - 6/30/2007 5:34:51 AM

MsDonnaMia

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Why do "masters" ask for sex?

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RE: why do MISTRESSES ask for tributes ? - 6/30/2007 8:37:45 AM

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Why do "masters" ask for sex?

LOL!!

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RE: why do MISTRESSES ask for tributes ? - 6/30/2007 1:14:16 PM

LadyAngel24

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Because they can? lol!

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RE: why do MISTRESSES ask for tributes ? - 6/30/2007 2:14:47 PM

Malicenwundrlnd

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Not only do I find that response offensive but how dare you assume you know why that specific Mistress requires tribute.

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RE: why do MISTRESSES ask for tributes ? - 7/2/2007 8:29:38 AM

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: GoddessinDallas

Why do subs want something for nothing?

Hi Ma`am, with respect i dont think that because a submissive says he doesn`t like the idea of tributes, that it follows he expects something for nothing. Some will just prefer to be in a relationship where a tribute is not required.

Tribute is ALWAYS required. It shows up in the form of painting houses or doing dishes daily. Tribute is always there it's just not always cash. As for the pay to play types...it's about the same thing as a "relationship" (I feel even Pros have a level of relationship with their clients) It's about getting one's needs met. A bottom needs to play so they give cash to a Pro so she can pay her bills... needs are met.

As for anything my experience for what it counts for is my pay check still goes to the Lady in Charge. I'm responsible for Her bills and mine as much as I'm responsible for cleaning house and maintaining things in an orderly fashion. And my play time is based on my performance. It's still a "transaction". 2 cents in a bucket somewhere...and more chores to do....tis the day off and all.

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RE: why do MISTRESSES ask for tributes ? - 7/2/2007 10:47:29 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: RchmdServiceNeed

quote:

ORIGINAL: MsDonnaMia

Why do "masters" ask for sex?

LOL!!

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RE: why do MISTRESSES ask for tributes ? - 7/2/2007 11:06:54 AM

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Hi BoiJen, i agree with you that some form of tribute is always present. However its not always required, in as much that its not always the prerequisite ( Spelling ? ) for a relationship but sometimes a biproduct. At least in the initial stages. What i`m getting at is some couples in the lifestyle get together not because of the lifestyle, but because they enjoy each others company.

i hope this makes sense as once again i`m confusing myself but i know what i mean !

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RE: why do MISTRESSES ask for tributes ? - 7/2/2007 12:34:31 PM

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I don't think that holds true for those of us who aren't seeking romance.

I think what we have to offer in any concept has to be proven to even begin the relationship process. Just as a client has to show up with cash in hand a houseboi has to prove cleaning abilities prior to being there all the time. Interviews and processing and interviews and processing...that's just been my experience.

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RE: why do MISTRESSES ask for tributes ? - 7/2/2007 12:51:09 PM

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Point taken BoiJen..... i hadn`t considered that side of the argument.

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RE: why do MISTRESSES ask for tributes ? - 7/2/2007 4:46:42 PM

DiannaVesta

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ORIGINAL: BoiJen

I don't think that holds true for those of us who aren't seeking romance.

I think what we have to offer in any concept has to be proven to even begin the relationship process. Just as a client has to show up with cash in hand a houseboi has to prove cleaning abilities prior to being there all the time. Interviews and processing and interviews and processing...that's just been my experience.

Damn right. You got it boi! Nice smile evil and sweet at the same time.

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RE: why do MISTRESSES ask for tributes ? - 7/3/2007 12:07:27 PM

BoiJen

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ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta
Damn right. You got it boi! Nice smile evil and sweet at the same time.

Lol thank you. Lots of practice to look as cute in a pic as I can...and a good photographer.

On the topic at hand, I've just noticed we do what we do to get our needs and wants met. Tribute is just another word for "you go first cuz I'm in charge." Even vanilla relationships go through the interview, what do you have to offer stage. Because lets be honest, if someone can't fulfill a need or desire we tend not to have them in our lives as people not just lifestylers. We're just talking about labels for it now.

And again with the chores a boi is always busy...later.

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RE: why do MISTRESSES ask for tributes ? - 7/13/2007 8:05:04 PM

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ORIGINAL: Evanesce

What? We had another tribute thread and I missed it again???? Damn!

Why can't I ever find a slave wanting to give me tribute? All I ever seem to find are the do-me wannabe whiners who expect me to wear black latex and follow 'em around with a whip all freakin' day to make sure they do what I've told them to do. I've got WORK to do! Sheesh!

Proabably one of the best best answers I've read so far.

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RE: why do MISTRESSES ask for tributes ? - 7/14/2007 7:57:37 AM

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For the discussion below, by tribute I mean a material token required to introduce oneself for a non-professional relationship.

I am not convinced that tribute is necessary to weed out insincere subs. I think there are more effective, more certain ways to discern sincerity, which tribute does not with certainty achieve. If giving money demonstrates sincerity then every patron of a strip club is a sincere man ;-) I think effort is a better indicator of sincerity. While tribute can weed out insincere wankers (and also let some through, who then might approach with a consumer mentality), it can also weed out sincere subs who are turned off by tribute.

I am not convinced that most subs are unattractive, selfish or do not provide fulfillment, which justifies asking for tribute. If attraction, compatibility or fulfillment is missing, I think the more effective approach is to pass and find another who is attractive, compatible, and provides for relationship needs. With the ratios as they are, if I can have reasonable success after passing on incompatibility, I expect it would be even easier for a domme to pass on an incompatible sub.

I am not convinced that subs demand play space, clothes, toys, and equipment, which justifies tribute. I do not think this demand comes from every sub. If one does encounter such expectations that she sees as unfair, I think one could instead conclude incompatibility and seek a person who does not have such expectations, refuse the demand, or direct the monetary demand to the person who has such demands.

The only reasoning I have seen that convinces me is that tribute is demanded because the forces of supply and demand allow it. If I am overlooking an aspect of reasonings I discuss above, I welcome hearing the same, or how I might adjust my interpretation. Otherwise it seems the reasons presented blur the real reason, which is because it can be done.

I recognize that getting money is convenient, and the idea of being able to easily obtain it would appeal to people across population in general. If the ratios or forces instead drastically favored subs, we would likely see a similar distribution of demand for tribute in the opposite direction.

Cheers,

Sea

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RE: why do MISTRESSES ask for tributes ? - 7/14/2007 9:40:47 AM

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ORIGINAL: undergroundsea
I am not convinced that tribute is necessary to weed out insincere subs. I think there are more effective, more certain ways to discern sincerity, which tribute does not with certainty achieve. If giving money demonstrates sincerity then every patron of a strip club is a sincere man ;-) I think effort is a better indicator of sincerity.

Well said. To me, sincerity is having read my profile and responded with intelligent conversation on one of the topics I'm interested in, even if you have to Wiki or Google it.

quote:

I am not convinced that most subs are unattractive, selfish or do not provide fulfillment, which justifies asking for tribute.

Alas, that would indeed be true in my experience. The average man seeking to be "submissive" on an adult site is a pushy, horny, rude do-me jerk who has nothing to offer a dominant woman, with the possible exception of money. He leads with his dick and he's an utter pain to deal with. He might be trainable, but it's rarely worth the effort.

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If attraction, compatibility or fulfillment is missing, I think the more effective approach is to pass and find another who is attractive, compatible, and provides for relationship needs. With the ratios as they are, if I can have reasonable success after passing on incompatibility, I expect it would be even easier for a domme to pass on an incompatible sub.

If everyone thought like that, then the horny do-me jerks would be even more frustrated with no outlets at all, even the semi-pro outlets, and they would be likely to behave even more crudely. This would probably result in an even larger number of dominant women getting disgusted and leaving the site.

I say hooray for the pros, and the semi-pros, and anyone who is willing to put up with the do-me jerks so that I don't have to. If some women are okay taking cash or gifts on their end of the transaction so they get something out of it, I'm genuinely happy that they are around, because they reduce the asshole load in my inbox.

Now I don't have a very high opinion of "stealth pros" who sucker a guy in and then ask for money, but tribute dommes, that's an up front and honest transaction and I'm grateful that they exist.

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