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RE: Supremacy - 6/30/2007 6:01:13 AM   
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I dont feel your my equal im not saying that im saying whats best for the child.  And abuse is abuse no matter if I feel you are my equal or not.  Children should be the ones we think about.  And id rather see them with a mother and father seeing the child than just one parent.  And I feel that in the case of Lategresse and her son, her son is being financially abused.  That might not be physical but it sure can hurt.  And its not just media led watch the show snapped.  Or do you just think women are abused and and men are never abused thats what it seems like your statements are saying.


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RE: Supremacy - 6/30/2007 6:03:12 AM   
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Quietly hope things get better.  You sound and look like a very understanding and caring person.  Hope things are going well with your kids.  Hope they did not get hurt in the long run.

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RE: Supremacy - 6/30/2007 6:05:46 AM   
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I just think you both need help and I still feel that it seems like you feel that a man can never be abused.  And yes the two people are here who were pretty much robbed by their spouses, I feel thats definantly abuse.

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RE: Supremacy - 6/30/2007 6:07:24 AM   
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here we go again - the notsoextrememalesupremist being a champion of equality?  how can that be? doesn't that go against your belief and ideals that men are far more superior to female gender? the first part of your OP leaves people hanging because you weren't certainly making any sense - what does equality have to do with BDSM ...you need to make a clearer distinction when comparing apples to oranges.  then you leap far left field about equality from men in such matters like support and abuse ...totally two different subjects than your opening statement.  were you in favor of submissive squality or are you going against your supremacy principles to advocate equality amongst the sexes, races, religions, etc now?

so many questions which won't have any answers


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RE: Supremacy - 6/30/2007 6:08:12 AM   
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Putting words in a persons mouth is an act of desperation.  Where did I say men dont get abused?  I asked if you have ever worked with abused men, you still have not responded.(I have and do btw - so I am trying to access if you are speaking from medialed frenzy or firsthand experience).
 
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RE: Supremacy - 6/30/2007 6:09:28 AM   
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You said you were sick most of the day yesterday...maybe you're not quite 100% yet?  Some of the stuff you are saying isn't making a whole lot of sense.  Or perhaps, I should say that it's somewhat difficult to understand.

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RE: Supremacy - 6/30/2007 6:11:34 AM   
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I'm tellin ya... that's why I was so confused... I'll learn my lesson from this...

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RE: Supremacy - 6/30/2007 6:12:15 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mastermozilla

I just think you both need help and I still feel that it seems like you feel that a man can never be abused.  And yes the two people are here who were pretty much robbed by their spouses, I feel thats definantly abuse.


And you need help to work out what a supremist is.  Also you need to change your sig because you aren't 'open' as you say you are when you simply insult posters when they don't 'agree' with you ... but bring it on - I'm game!
RomanAnd again, where did I say men don't suffer from abuse?  Please cite exactly.
 
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RE: Supremacy - 6/30/2007 6:13:26 AM   
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So tell us oh great one what do men go through when they are abused.  Do they deserve it.  No I have not and no I dont have to to see that abuse happens on both parts.  And what is with the microwave.  And when I first brought this topic up I was talking about supremacy and how many in the bdsm world believe in equality between both sexes not just supremacy which im the Male Supremacist and Mia is the Female Supremacist.  And when you read my post im not saying I dont feel one side isnt more superior im talking about whats right for the children and abuse is abuse whether I think one sex is better.

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RE: Supremacy - 6/30/2007 6:16:04 AM   
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Dude, I'd caution you to quit while you were ahead, but I'm not sure there ever was a time when.... errr.... ummm.... maybe enough is enough. 
 
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RE: Supremacy - 6/30/2007 6:18:07 AM   
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You are saying that we dont laugh at the idea of a man being abused.  Yes we do, we laugh all the time.  Read some of the posts where people have said that when we hear men being abused we feel that the man being abused was not a real man or a man will not come up and talk about it because he feels that it makes him not a real man.  And stop thinking that all media shows the bad in the world and not what is really going on.  Look at Keith Olbermann or Bill Mahr or Dan Rather or I feel Rose O'Donnel.  Media can be a good thing not just something to say that everything it shows is twisted towards lies.

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RE: Supremacy - 6/30/2007 6:18:46 AM   
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I gotta agree with Rover again (nah, I'm not dogging you), you really should just give it up.  Believe whatever you want, but don't try and impose those beliefs on others.

LOL!  I made a funnie...Rover...dogging...get it?

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RE: Supremacy - 6/30/2007 6:21:14 AM   
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Dude you are going to get eaten alive... you even hijacked your own thread... use your personal power to see what's really coming at ya... I mean... I am really enjoying this... but darn... it is a lil early for blood.

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RE: Supremacy - 6/30/2007 6:23:51 AM   
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Mastermozilla you have mail on the other side.

I do understand your posts, however I just woke up and I need a gallon of coffee before I venture into the forums.


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RE: Supremacy - 6/30/2007 6:25:58 AM   
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Thanx CJenny and im done trying to explain what I really feel hope all of you have good lives.

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RE: Supremacy - 6/30/2007 6:27:23 AM   
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Neither sex is supreme and both sexes deserve equal rights. To believe that one sex is superior to the other is rather medieval and the horrors such as what is happening to some women in the middle east is a prime example of that. I believe when a person thinks that their sex, race or religion is supreme is because they are insecure deep down inside. They have to have some way of saying hey look at me, I am someone important. when in reality they are just your average person.

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RE: Supremacy - 6/30/2007 6:30:45 AM   
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I don't blame you for feeling like you do right now. You've been mistaken for someone else, mistaken for others threads & are being misunderstood.
Somehow there is a lack of clarity in your posts for some.

With open ended questions it can be difficult to understand where the OP is coming from and that frustrates people. It gets hard to understand the OPs intent, the reason for the posts & when that happens things tend to break apart.

And to answer the original OP here:
No I do not think one gender is inherently above the other, I believe it is an individual thing within people.
Edit: addition
IMO it is perfectly okay to ask a question or present something that is in conflict with a sig line. You stated that you are open to new thoughts and ideas, well the only way to learn new thoughts/ideas is through the exchange of views.

< Message edited by cjenny -- 6/30/2007 6:32:35 AM >


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RE: Supremacy - 6/30/2007 6:32:02 AM   
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using fast reply.......

I believe that several men misunderstood the intent of my post.

My post was NOT about any perceived abuse to my son. He and his ex created a certain standard of living. Both were consenting adults though neither always behaved as such. I adore my son but I also conceed that he is not the easiest person to live with and shares in the demise of the relationship regardless of how she handled the situation.

Financially, though it has been a struggle for him it is certainly not a challenge he cannot meet. He is his mother's son after all. NO, I do not think he is being abused. As dark so elloquently stated, in this type of situation it is not about mother's rights or father's rights but about CHILDREN'S RIGHTS, what is best for the CHILDREN. Most seperating couples are too busy trying to destroy the other person and tend to forget that. Hense the need for the court system, and though it is flawed it does try to do what is best for the children. My son has joint custody and has the children more than 50% of the time. And yes, he still pays child support. SO WHAT! It is only money after all and more can be gotten by a little work. That child support helps assure that those two children get what they need when they are at their mother's house.

This is by far a better arrangement than any man I knew 20 years ago was able to receive. I know men that only saw their children every other weekend and if they were lucky two weeks during the summer. My son gets to see his children almost daily, and certainly no two days go by that he does not get to see them. They have a bedroom at his house, clothing, toys, everything they could possibly need. They feel equally at home there.

My son's ex is not a bad person nor is she a bad mother. She has made some bad choices but then haven't we all. The priority and focus should not be on her or my son but on the two lives they created and that will bond the two of them together for life. So she got a nice car. Regardless of the make and model it is only a car, therefor disposable at some point. Unless she finds a sugar daddy she will not have another like it when it dies. So she got a house, but can she maintain the payments? Probably not. Which is sad because it is a home to two little guys.

My son is not a victim because he will not allow himself to be. He is stronger and wiser than that. He understands that it is not about him or the emotional garbage between he and his ex. As someone stated and got attacked for, life is not always fair. There is alot of truth in that. Our society gets far too caught up in providing everyone a fair chance. Well, sometimes that is just not realistic. A very wise woman I know once told me "We are not defined by the cards we are dealt but rather how we play them". So you get dealt a shit hand, it is how you play them, how you cope, that defines the person you are. Are you gonna sit on your ass, bitch and whine about how bad you have it and how unfair it is that the person sitting next to you got all aces? So what that the person that has the aces is running around lording it over those less fortunate. In doing that they are defining their own character, and it ain't attractive. Take what you have and make the best of it, learn the lessons from it, prove your own worth.


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RE: Supremacy - 6/30/2007 6:32:29 AM   
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Thanx CJenny and except for a few others who are as good as you, you are one of the most honest and beautiful souls on here.

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RE: Supremacy - 6/30/2007 6:34:58 AM   
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Im not saying that he is weak or whatever im saying that in my eyes what his sons ex has done with the money is financial abuse.  Im really glad he can see his kids as often as he likes but that is not always the case.  On the other side of the coin guess who got full custody of the kids.  David Hasselhoff.  Did anyone watch his video and think oh thats the person who should raise my kids.  Good Bye all from this post.

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