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ORIGINAL: uwinceismile

i see a great deal of politcal discourse here. mostly a lot of "im right" and ur "wrong".
followed quickly by links to pages found somewhere in cyberspace to back up ones position.
how about we try to find solutions? i think we can most all agree about the differences.
are you ready to put down the sword, and come to the table to find a cure? do you have it in you to reach a compromise?
if we cant do that here, how can we ever expect the folks in washington to do it?
no, i dont have a particular topic, there are way to many to choose from. pick ur fav, and lets see if we can actually come up with an idea? a plan, to make most folks happy. and i know not everyone will be accepting. but those unwilling to try, have already shown thier true colors

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ORIGINAL: Level

Okay, health insurance.
 
I'm intrigued by what they're doing in Massachusetts. It has as its aim total coverage, but it still looks to be flexible.

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The law divides the population into three segments:

_The poorest, making less than the federal poverty level, are eligible for free care.

_People making slightly more, up to three times the federal poverty level, can enroll in state subsidized plans.

_Those making more than three times the federal poverty level — at least $30,630 for an individual and $61,950 for a family of four — can choose their own coverage from new, lower-cost private plans, if they aren't already insured through work.

Is this a reasonable starting point? Should it be a template for the rest of the country, or should each state be allowed to seek it's own unique plan?
 
Here's a link to a story on the Massachusetts plan:
 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070630/ap_on_he_me/massachusetts_health_care
 

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ORIGINAL: uwinceismile

i see a great deal of politcal discourse here. mostly a lot of "im right" and ur "wrong".

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

Here you go, case in point...   check out the long 50 page discussion on this:

This is Ron speaking to the house financial services committee.  What he says is of pivotal importance but people simply do not understand its importance.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_984096/mpage_1/key_rothschild/tm.htm#984368

If you want to fix this nation this is where to start.

Then support the grassroots movement such as:

http://www.givemeliberty.org/

The bottom line is that ron paul has more balls than the senate house and all administrations since 1900 and i cannot stress enough to support him on this issue alone because to fix america he is "right on target".

Then we the people have to start back tracking and throwing out all laws that violate the constitution or are beyond its juridiction.

links again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4kxTkhwR_Q

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5232639329002339531&q


Here is a very simple version that explains it with out the need to work a lot, just the time to sit and listen, doesnt get any easier than this

http://www.notjustnotes.ws/howbanksrobyou.htm

Some interesting links, RO, thank you for posting them.

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ORIGINAL: cjenny

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ORIGINAL: Level

Okay, health insurance.
 
I'm intrigued by what they're doing in Massachusetts. It has as its aim total coverage, but it still looks to be flexible.

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The law divides the population into three segments:

_The poorest, making less than the federal poverty level, are eligible for free care.

_People making slightly more, up to three times the federal poverty level, can enroll in state subsidized plans.

_Those making more than three times the federal poverty level — at least $30,630 for an individual and $61,950 for a family of four — can choose their own coverage from new, lower-cost private plans, if they aren't already insured through work.

Is this a reasonable starting point? Should it be a template for the rest of the country, or should each state be allowed to seek it's own unique plan?
 
Here's a link to a story on the Massachusetts plan:
 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070630/ap_on_he_me/massachusetts_health_care
 

I know very little about this 'stuff'. Is this sort of program put to a public vote? Or is it simply just implemented by those in charge?
And yup I think that if it works then other states ought to follow it. But that brings me back to the voting for it issue, there 'may' be better solutions. Some states have more under the poverty line than others which could effect that program.
I agree to with whomever said that at least one dollar should be the price even for those below the poverty line.
Right now I do not qualify for help. I cannot work but I have outside income of a whopping $16K a year, with that amount of income buying medication is a severe hardship for me. I pay over $1K a month in meds alone.

It feels that most people see those living on a small income are seen as lazy/uneducated. That makes it hard emotionally to ask for help. There IS a stigma attached to receiving state or government aid.

I am currently in the process of trying to receive state aid, it has taken 2 years to reach my first hearing. Sometimes I wonder if they keep that timeline hoping that the applicant will give up. It is tempting to, but I can't.
Next up? The tangle known as SSI.
Hmmm I ought to keep a journal on this journey of mine.

Thankies Level for the thought provoking post.

You're welcome, jenny . I don't know the answer to the "is it put to a vote".... I don't think it was, but I may be wrong.

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ORIGINAL: bandit25

Here's the deal as I see it.  Too many times people get defensive or try and convince these "internet people" (because that's what we are) that their way (the OP's way) is the right way or the only way.  In my opinion, just state your point of view and move on.  I don't see any advantage to flaming.  There are a lot of people whose views I don't share...so what?  I don't have to share their views.  How boring would that be?

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ORIGINAL: SeeksOnlyOne

something i hope to see discussed.......ill leave my thoughts out of it for now....

how can the govt agree to pay for medicaid care for a child for 18 years, yet refuse to pay for an abortion for someone who just keeps having babies.........

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ORIGINAL: uwinceismile

morning seeks......
i will say this to back ur play. i dont understand 99% of govt. spending.:( there truley seems to be no ryhme nor reason to much of what is done in washington,,,,especially where money is concerned. what with multi million dollars being spent to build bridges that go no where,and pork spending seemingly the fav past time of most if not all of the folks on the hill. suffice to say,,,accountability is not a strong suit on capitol hill....

and as an aside....
domiguy??? i honestly believe i would do halle berry in almost any configuration ;)  lol

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ORIGINAL: bandit25

Yup, NG, I agree.  The thing that bothers me is when people go on and on about how they are right or the ones that take offense when you present a different point of view.

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ORIGINAL: uwinceismile

my quest was to find common ground, and work forward from there. many threads left on this site where we can all scream our positions if thats what ya need :)