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MissyRane -> RE: What is with this "boy" thing? (7/4/2007 1:36:14 PM)
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My Liddell & Scott is not a source to use in this case and my mind is blanking.
And I'm too lazy to go get the research I did years ago.
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puer and puella is latin I confirm that[;)]
but when people call me 'girl' it's kind of difficult for me to get used to it and to accept it but I guess it's just used to put emphasis on your place so.. whatever floats your boat!
So what are the Greek words I can't think of?
My Liddell & Scott is not a source to use in this case and my mind is blanking.
And I'm too lazy to go get the research I did years ago.
honestly I have no idea I've only learned latin.
I didn't find much about this (I didn't spend much time will maybe look better later) but I found this little blog here about the names and I found it quite interesting...and they mention it may stem from Anglo Saxon or even dutch, and I quote:
(reference: http://callumphoenixrising.blogspot.com/2007/03/of-boys-and-girls.html )
"True Masculinity - the Phoenix that never dies
The real strength of men is their inner strength which defines who they are and has been repressed and dormant for far too long.
Monday, 19 March 2007
Of Boys and Girls
I was thinking earlier about how much I had noticed the differentiation between men and boys and girls and women.
The word boy has unpleasant connotations in the western culture. When we think of the word boy we think of drooling, pimples, bumbling idiots, fart jokes and dogs in heat. Virtually nothing positive or pleasant comes to mind. The word boy has and is always used as a weapon against the male gender – in particular a shaming term to manipulate men into the position of provider, protector and leader to put it lightly and feel ashamed of oneself.
The journey to manhood is one of shame. Boys grow up craving the approval of females and when they reach puberty their sex drives exponentially increase this and are therefore more vulnerable to the manipulation of women than ever. All it takes is shaming and even the most ‘manly’ man who fits all the descriptions of the Stage 1 man is coerced into thinking that the very power that is controlling him is the victim he (oppresses nowadays) must protect.
The word boy I have learned comes from Dutch ‘boef’ or criminal or rogue. There is also a theory that the word boy comes from Anglo-Saxon ‘boia’ which means boy or servant. It is a term used to mould boys into men by teaching them that what they are is not good enough and is repulsive. Calling a man a boy (with toys) is undermining him and shaming him by suggesting he is immature or inferior in some way. That is why we rarely refer to men over 18 as boys unless in a negative way. In the common tongue we normally use crude words like ‘guys’ or ‘blokes,’ which have similar goofy connotations. The only difference is the ‘breaking’ of the voice.
“Snails, Slugs and Puppy Dog tails.
That’s what little boys are made of”
I remember creating a fuss about that in primary school to my teacher. I actually said it was unfair to boys but she and everyone else just laughed it off clearly refusing to acknowledge how demeaning it made me feel.
“Sugar, Spice and All things nice.
That’s what little girls are made of”
Lets take ‘girls’ now. Wiki of course has a very politically correct feminazi/mangina spillage all of it. Whom do we refer to as girls. Cute little girls? Beautiful un-married girls? Women up to the age of 27? Sex objects? Something that needs protecting? Victims? Independent ass-kickers? Which? All of them. The idea is that everyone of them has empowering positive connotations.
The only time when the word ‘girl’ may be bad is when attributed to a boy due mainly to the taboo of homosexuality and the refusal to acknowledge boys as victims when necessary in my opinion.
It makes me sick how grown women being called girls is actually an obvious symbol of her victimisation. Feminists may appear to want females to be empowered ‘men’ but the continuation of calling them ‘girls’ is a actually a subtle factor of how we still are programmed to see women as victims."
[Edited to add]
In Greek boy is: αγόρι, παιδί
girl is: κόρη, κοπέλα, κορίτσι
..according to an online dictionary, and I don't know the greek alphabet heh
also...
I decided to try my dictionary and according to my dictionary boys are mystery[:D]
the definition of girl is:
girl
· n.
1 a female child.
2 a young or relatively young woman. Ø (girls) informal women who mix socially or belong to a group or team. Ø a person’s girlfriend.
3 dated a female servant.
– DERIVATIVES girlhood n. girlish adj. girlishly adv. girlishness n.
– ORIGIN ME (denoting a child or young person of either sex): perh. rel. to Low Ger. gör ‘child’.
the definition of a boy is:
boy
· n.
1 a male child or youth.
2 (boys) informal men who mix socially or belong to a particular group.
3 dated, offensive a black male servant or worker.
· exclam. informal used to express strong feelings: Oh boy, that’s wonderful!
– DERIVATIVES boyhood n. boyish adj. boyishly adv. boyishness n.
– ORIGIN ME: of unknown origin.
also here it is from wikipedia, (reference: http://www.answers.com/topic/boy?cat=biz-fin )
"Etymology
The word "boy" is recorded since 1154. Its etymology is unclear; it is probably related to East Frisian boi, Old Norse bófi, Dutch boef "(criminal) knave, rogue" and German Bube. These apparently all have their origin in baby talk (like the word baby itself) (Buck 1949: 89).
But there is a theory that English "boy" derives from a theorized Anglo-Saxon word *boia = "boy or servant", thus explaining the English placenames Boyton and Boycott. If so, the word may have originated from the Boii, a Celtic tribe which formerly lived in Bohemia but was driven out by the Germanic Marcomanni tribe taking the area over in Roman times. In the dispersal, many Boii may have become slaves or servants, and their name became a word for "servant". (The same happened later to many Slav people, whence the word slave.)"
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