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ORIGINAL: domiguy

If you kill someone who is unarmed who breaks into your home....Your family is probably going to miss you.

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ORIGINAL: dragone

In Michigan, the only person who is allowed, by law, to use deadly force to defend themselves, is a woman.

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ORIGINAL: velvetears

Sinergy where do you get your 99.9 stats from about break ins?  i hear on the news almost every night here in NY about some person being murdred in their home, or gunned down in the street, or beaten by some gang just for kicks, or car jacking where the victim was beaten, rapes etc, people thrown off roofs. 

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ORIGINAL: luckydog1

There are no useless people, only useless fetuses...

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

If you kill someone who is unarmed who breaks into your home....Your family is probably going to miss you.

well I live in the south and i carry a a gun have all the paper work and everything and its simple here if someone breaks into my house i have the legal right to send them back trough the door window what ever they used to get in with a nice bullet in them.  Now if you don't believe that you can always say what ever you want.  But the simple fact is that said person broke in and even if they didn't have anything in their hands they still had hands.  Now some people live where they cant defend them selfs  to those people all i can say is Move. 

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ORIGINAL: dragone

Hi Velvettears; Hey, I asked the very same questions of the police there. A man, must meet force with equal force, defending himself. A woman is the only gender who can kill with impunity; if you are pregant, better still.
Women may not kill with impunity...anyone who says so is mistaken.

If I weigh in at 285 lbs, am 6'5" tall, and my attacker is 150 Lbs, 5'9" tall, and I beat him to a bloody pulp...I will get sued, arrested, and have to prove my innocence, that me beating him was justifiable.
If you are 285lbs. and 6'5" and you  cannot restrain a 150lbs. 5'9" attacker without beating them to a bloody pulp that is prima facia evidence that you are guilty of battery.


If he attacked me with a baseball bat, they would consider that of =Force Vs =Force, given my size. If he attacks me with a knife, I pull out a gun, shoot him, I am arrested, =Force Vs.= Force does not applie.
What sort of fool brings a knife to a gunfight?

If I wound him, I will be sued, If I kill him, his family will sue me. The least charge I could hope for is manslaughter.

So, all in all, crazy as it is; that is Michigan.
If you do not like the laws in Michigan why do you continue to dwell there?

You cannot carry a pistol, you must get permission from the police, if you are even going to the range for pratice, inform them of the route, time of day, that is, if you are to obey the law. You can however carry a shotgun in your car, loaded, however it must be in a rifle scabbard.

In MIchigan, they have one of the toughest gun control laws in the country, to protect the citizen. And, never mind, that Detriot holds the record of the teenage murder capitol of the world.
Guns don't kill people...people kill people.  When you put guns in the hands of people who maintain an attitude of "Fuck with me and I will pop a cap in your ass"you wind up with one on a slab and one in the slam.  That to me is two wasted lives. 
I have not killed a man in over forty years and those who died at my hand died only to make rich people richer. 
My point is that taking another humans life if a foolish thing to do and to make up bullshit scenarios for justifying it is just that ...bullshit...
Most of the time your posts are more thoughtful and reasoned why you have such a blind spot here is beyond me.
 

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ORIGINAL: GeekyGirl

Well I spay and neuter MY pets because they aren't outstanding examples of the breeds and hence have no business reproducing. I come from the dog show world and good examples of the breed are left intact and bad ones aren't.

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ORIGINAL: dragone

In the state of Michigan, you are required to run away. If your home is invaded, you discover the thief, you are required to exit by the nearest venue, window, door, whatever, leaving the house to the thief. The state's resoning is: no material item is worth a life. In Michigan, the only person who is allowed, by law, to use deadly force to defend themselves, is a woman. If the thief, invades your premises, and runs away, you are not allowed by law to chase, pursue, nor use any force to apprehend the thief, nor pursue to recover your property. 

That's crazy! So when someone enters your home your suppossed to use mental telepathy to determine he's only there to rob you and not rape you , abduct your children, beat you to a pulp for fun, etc etc... Someone enters my home they get what the deserve!

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Hi Velvettears; Hey, I asked the very same questions of the police there. A man, must meet force with equal force, defending himself. A woman is the only gender who can kill with impunity; if you are pregant, better still.

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ORIGINAL: Level

Useless?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19636099

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

What sort of fool brings a knife to a gunfight?

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ORIGINAL: GeekyGirl

I find criminals of most sorts to be useless...by this, I mean people who are habitual repeat offenders, NOT someone who just got in trouble once or twice when they were young or over some weird misunderstanding. I'm talking drug dealers, crack whores, habitual thieves, etc.
Are you referring to people like "scooter" Libby, a lawyer who used his position to block an investigation into the outing of CIA agents?  Or people like Ollie North the international drug dealer?   Or is your wrath only for low level drug dealers and poor women who cannot afford expensive drugs?


People who are too lazy to work.
Are you speaking of people like Jack Abramhoff who walks around Washington sucking peoples dicks and giving them money to ignore their oath of office?

People who abuse goverment welfare benefits (using them is one thing...abusing is another.)
Are you talking about the congress who vote themselves fat pay checks for sitting on their asses and fucking over their constituents?

Pedophiles are pretty useless to me, as well, just because anything else they could do would never make up for the harm they cause.
You realize that this also includes the kid who just turned 18 who has been poking his high school sweetheart who is 12 days younger than he is.

Not all people have value, any more than all dogs have value (which is why we spay and neuter, because some things aren't worth reproducing). Some do, some don't....
Perhaps with some selective breeding we could create a "master race"
Perhaps we should have euthanized Stephen Hawking he looked pretty useless when he was born...maybe we should neuter him.

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

What sort of fool brings a knife to a gunfight?

I have given this a lot of thought in my time here.  I am trained for unarmed fighting, even against an armed assailant.

I have studied a lot of weapons.  Weapons do weird things like bounce off targets, vibrate out of one's hands, hit environmental objects, get dropped, stick in wounds, miss, misfire, get slippery covered with blood, etc.  Under adrenalin, what ends up happening is the person wielding the weapon tends to focus with tunnel vision on the weapon (which may or may not be currently working) and is unable to split their focus to be on the attacker.

I have been attacked by somebody wielding a knife.  I was unarmed.  I walked away, and so did the person who attacked me with it after they got out of the lock-up.  Sure, I have scars, but I did not spend any time in jail for defending myself.

Unless people have experience in combat under adrenalized situations, I dont really care how proficient they think they are with their weapon of choice;  Adrenalin changes everything.

Feel free to call me a fool for not even bringing a knife to a gun fight, but thats my story and Im sticking to it.

Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: GeekyGirl

And likewise bleeding heart liberals who feel the need to be overly empathetic and douse every thing they say in sugar are unappealing too.