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Aswad -> RE: Rape after effects (7/6/2007 6:08:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

You really need to look up the statistics of abused women. A great deal of women have been abused, molested, and/or raped at some point in their life. This isn't some rare thing.


1 in 4 lifetime prevalence, isn't it?

That's the figure up here, at least.




AquaticSub -> RE: Rape after effects (7/6/2007 6:14:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aswad

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

You really need to look up the statistics of abused women. A great deal of women have been abused, molested, and/or raped at some point in their life. This isn't some rare thing.


1 in 4 lifetime prevalence, isn't it?

That's the figure up here, at least.



That's what I was told during the human sexuality class I took this summer. Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if it was higher.

Molestion and rape are things that one fourth of all women have to deal with at some point in their life. Yes, it's an awful, terrible thing. Yes, it's hard to move through but if he truly thinks it's so hard for a woman to live a life past her abuse, past her molestion, past her rape... then exactly where does he think this entire one fourth of the female population is?




Aswad -> RE: Rape after effects (7/6/2007 6:42:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if it was higher.


I would. If we're talking population total. It seems more likely that local prevalence may be higher.
Then again, sometimes I want to give humanity a bit of credit.
Hence, making good assumptions about people.
I'll no doubt be proven wrong, though.

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then exactly where does he think this entire one fourth of the female population is?


I haven't a clue. Avalon?

I gave up figuring out what color people's skies are ages ago.




Aswad -> RE: Rape after effects (7/6/2007 6:44:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer

Because some people are fundamentally wired like that. Self included. [...] It's not my choice how I'm wired, but it is my choice how ethically I act on that wiring.


Good point. Was wondering when that would come up.
And a fair bit of balls for admitting it in this thread.




zindyslave -> RE: Rape after effects (7/6/2007 6:45:14 PM)

Well, I know that most people can reap help from hearing about others rape or molestion. It just made me upset because the original op did it for a reason other than honorable, I know their are lurkers on the boards just looking around that doesn't bother me so much as someone actually drawing this information out of people for the wrong reasons....It makes sense to me at least I hope I am getting it out right. [8|] 




Najakcharmer -> RE: Rape after effects (7/6/2007 8:20:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aswad
Good point. Was wondering when that would come up.
And a fair bit of balls for admitting it in this thread.


Thing is, aren't we *all* wired more or less like that?  Power, aggression, force and control are hot. What differentiates ethical BDSM practicioners from rapists and assholes is that we only do these things with consenting adults, and we care about making sure that everyone involved is safe and basically having a good time. 

"Consensual nonconsensuality" fantasy rape scenarios are fun, and if you like such things, you can get your jollies from consenting partners who like it that way too.  But if something that seriously pushes your hot buttons gets shoved in your face outside of that context, most people who are wired that way are still going to have the predictable reaction, at least internally.  I can self-censor that reaction effectively if the thinking part of my brain reminds me that it's not appropriate or ethical.   But it will still have occurred. 




Lockit -> RE: Rape after effects (7/6/2007 8:34:16 PM)

It's okay to be hardwired like that... it is not okay to do what the op did.  Where was the concent?  Had he come on and said... I get off to this and that... I want to hear your stories... I would have had no problem with it, nor would anyone who responded because they would then have had a choice.  Thus the pain he caused.

Personally I would love to get into some HOT play with that lil dick!  Not sure he would like it though.




Aswad -> RE: Rape after effects (7/8/2007 9:41:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer

Thing is, aren't we *all* wired more or less like that?


~nod~

Variations on a theme, pretty much, so yeah.

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What differentiates ethical BDSM practicioners from rapists and assholes is that we only do these things with consenting adults, and we care about making sure that everyone involved is safe and basically having a good time.


Well, I'm inclined to go with consent as the distinguishing feature, but otherwise: what you said.

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But if something that seriously pushes your hot buttons gets shoved in your face outside of that context, most people who are wired that way are still going to have the predictable reaction, at least internally.


That's what I would assume. Seems like a lot of people here were unhappy about that, though.
(No, I'm not talking about the trolling. I'm talking about SO responses.)

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I can self-censor that reaction effectively if the thinking part of my brain reminds me that it's not appropriate or ethical.


~nod~

Seems a lot of people have wiring that overwhelms the initial impulse, however, which obviates the need for that intervention in those cases. Anger, revulsion, whatever. But I'd think it's more productive with an impulse one is used to restraining, like arousal, rather than an impulse one isn't, like rage. As I said, variations on a theme.

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But it will still have occurred. 


Of course. But there is really no point in worrying about thoughts, feelings or desires. They come and go as they please. With effort, one can suppress a cognition, or with training, one can alter one. I prefer to just catch it at the "behaviour regulation" level. Many people go as far in the other direction as to worry ceaselessly about what they think, though, which is part of why it's still in the DSM.

Just musing / rambling here, not sure I answered / addressed / questioned what you said.




innosencelost -> RE: Rape after effects (7/30/2007 11:41:04 AM)

As a survivor of this kind of violence... It has been my experience, that while hating the act and the person whom attacked... I had never been so turned on. This is part of where my involvement in this lifestyle has stemmed from. In taking back my sexuality and what was mine to give(not taken)... I have found a sence of peace. This isn't true for all as it was for me. I went years feeling guilty for having these feelings and felt warped or something because of it. In speaking with others it has helped me heel from my experiences. I hope this helps at least one person. It isn't true for all but this is my experience.




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