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Sinergy -> RE: Iraqi Village Slaughtered (7/4/2007 6:01:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle Well, to be fair, we totally fucked up the POST invasion phase, too.. I apologize if I suggested there is anything about Iraq that wasnt an idiotic clusterf*ck illegally visited upon the Iraqis from beginning to end, at the behest of an administration of draft-dodgers whose idiocy and incompetence is simply breathtaking in magnitude and scope. Sinergy

Real0ne -> RE: Iraqi Village Slaughtered (7/4/2007 6:24:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic If by "quiet" you mean that I dismiss your 9/11 theories and links as bullshit and crackpottery, not worth the electricity to view, then yeah, I'm quiet on your 9/11 threads. I looked at those theories and found zero credibility to the proponents. Yes. I do consider the rush to deny the simplest and most obvious explanation as "knee-jerk." And I believe I indicated I thought the story deserved to be looked at by more media outlets. Well thats pushing partisonship about as far it can possibly go.... yer a smart guy, do the math, the odds of everything that went wrong and 3 buildings to totally collapse on one day, one that was not even hit by a plane why thats at least... hmmm.... 1 in 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Good odds i am sure you would agree Ah the unemotional approach asking for "real evidence" is knee jerk now days. twisted man! Hey if there is any statement that indicates real evidence then puhlease post it because i must have missed it.. That and how much talent does it take to booby trap a city? i could have done at 10 years old! In fact i would have been in heaven when i was a kid if i could have played with those toys

domiguy -> RE: Iraqi Village Slaughtered (7/4/2007 6:27:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy I usually just don't jump at the first explanation given....Unless it makes my Democratic brothers and sisters shine....lol. It will be easy to know what happened soon enough. If nobody else ever hears a word of it, AQI did it. If it can somehow be blamed on Bush, we'll have every grisly detail. See? Now my bias is showing [8\|] Actually it's not really newsworthy if anybody but al qaeda is responsible....They have been killing each other for what a zillion fucking years now?.....It just goes to show how messed up this whole thing is....Some democracy...What would lead anyone to believe they were going to set aside their differences cuz we handed them a helpin' heap of Western hospitality? We didn't go to war to protect the poor little villagers from the evils of al qaeda...I could google it but I am really kind of full and lazy at the moment.....I don't recall Pres Bush making the case for our guys to lay down their lives to protect the villagers of Iraq.....Ever read "Johnny Got His Gun?"....Christ, there are things that are definitely worth dying for....This aint one of 'em.

TheHeretic -> RE: Iraqi Village Slaughtered (7/4/2007 6:43:50 PM)
A reference to blood feuds, Sinergy. I guess you didn't see the quote marks around the name. http://www.wvculture.org/history/crime/hatfieldmccoy01.html Sorry I over-estimated your cultural literacy.

TheHeretic -> RE: Iraqi Village Slaughtered (7/4/2007 6:51:00 PM)
If the case for a 9/11 conspiracy is so strong, Real, why do the advocates lead with bullshit? And why do have to give them my credit card number to be told anything that can't be debunked by a fifth grader who's built models of WWII aircraft? We had this conversation before, I'm done with it.

Sinergy -> RE: Iraqi Village Slaughtered (7/4/2007 7:02:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic A reference to blood feuds, Sinergy. I guess you didn't see the quote marks around the name. http://www.wvculture.org/history/crime/hatfieldmccoy01.html Sorry I over-estimated your cultural literacy. Please clarify how a blood feud proves that Al Qaeda was responsible for the death of the villagers. I simply stated that nothing in the posted news story proved Al Qaeda was anywhere involved, except for what a bunch of Iraqi policemen who get money for fighting Al Qaeda people, told a reporter. I made the observation that if these men can prove Al Qaeda killed villagers, odds are fairly good that Uncle Sam will provide them guns and tanks and explosives and food and money. I find that one of the modus operandi of the current administration is to try to use Al Qaeda as a boogey man to try to engender fear and gain support for their imperialist aims. I then made the comment that the same sort of knee jerk certainties and un-proven rationalizations were used to drive the biggest military in history to attack Iraq in the first place. Your response, while marginally interesting, appears to be a complete non-sequiter. If it is not, I look forward to your reasoned and erudite explanation. Sinergy

TheHeretic -> RE: Iraqi Village Slaughtered (7/4/2007 7:32:08 PM)
Damn, DG. When you and I are having the most civil conversation in the thread, you know it's getting ugly... I posted the link as one of those informational things. What happened in that village was an atrocity. It's worth a 60 Minuutes or Dateline segment too. Yes. Iraq is all fucked up, and WE, the Good Ole' U.S. of A., made that happen for them. Some want to walk away, and ignore what will happen to Iraq then, and who we leave it to. Denial wasn't the right approach when it came to how the Iraqi population would react, it isn't the right approach to how we leave either.

TheHeretic -> RE: Iraqi Village Slaughtered (7/4/2007 7:51:03 PM)
Metaphor. Analogy. Allegory. Comparison??? I think you read me too literally, Sinergy, or at least when it works for you. I never suggested it was a known fact the insurgent group known as Al Queda in Iraq had committed this atrocity. The report states that such a claim is being made. It seems the most logical conclusion, based on the materials and skills required, in an area where AQI is known to be operating. Again, I don't view American forces and our Allies as automatically unreliable.

thompsonx -> RE: Iraqi Village Slaughtered (7/4/2007 7:55:13 PM)
Just a quick question. Why should we leave as long as there is oil there and money to be made by Haliburton? thompson

Real0ne -> RE: Iraqi Village Slaughtered (7/4/2007 7:58:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic If the case for a 9/11 conspiracy is so strong, Real, why do the advocates lead with bullshit? And why do have to give them my credit card number to be told anything that can't be debunked by a fifth grader who's built models of WWII aircraft? We had this conversation before, I'm done with it. Oh kool glad to hear it! So what did those 5th graders come up with to debunk the quacks at the university of california who on 13 sep 2001 and then confirmed again on 21 sep 2001 found significantly elevated levels of tritium in the immediate vicinity of the wtc but nowhere else in new york. Yeh i suppose with this kind of data staring you in the face i wouldnt want to hang around if i said what you just did either. May as well face reality you are in total denial but thats ok just sweep 3000 lives under the table and drop a few nukes on terrorists instead of making sure our skirts are clean first.. No biggy we all like living in a facade so we can have our little police state.. (and no we did not have this conversation before) Now as far as leading with bullshit is concerned you may want to stipulate exactly what "you" feel is bullshit. The university of califirnia?

Sinergy -> RE: Iraqi Village Slaughtered (7/4/2007 8:02:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic in an area where AQI is known to be operating. That was my other question. What evidence actually suggests Al Qaeda is known to be operating in that area? Tarot Cards? Tea Leaves? Cat Entrails? Feel free to provide something that is not the (known dubious on so many other examples) twaddle emanating from the White House Press Office. Sinergy p.s. I have a few other bridges for sale out where California's new coastline will be. http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%3Fei%3DUTF-8%26p%3Dpicture%2Bof%2Blondon%2Bbridge%2Bin%2BNevada&w=250&h=181&imgurl=www.americatravelling.net%2Fusa%2Fnevada%2Flaughlin%2Fimages%2Flaughlin_london_bridge_lake_havasu.jpg&size=16.5&name=laughlin_london_bridge_lake_havasu.jpg&rcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.americatravelling.net%2Fusa%2Fnevada%2Flaughlin%2Flaughlin_gallery.htm&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.americatravelling.net%2Fusa%2Fnevada%2Flaughlin%2Flaughlin_gallery.htm&p=london+bridge+nevada&type=jpeg&no=3&tt=63

uwinceismile -> RE: Iraqi Village Slaughtered (7/4/2007 8:12:17 PM)
hmmm, im curious? nahhh, neva mind

Real0ne -> RE: Iraqi Village Slaughtered (7/4/2007 8:16:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic What happened in that village was an atrocity. It's worth a 60 Minuutes or Dateline segment too. This was a atrocity too: The Waco Massacre http://www.serendipity.li/waco.html Many people believe that David Koresh (or the Branch Davidians) were responsible for the deaths of the 74 men, women and children who died in the inferno at Waco on April 19, 1993. This is the story that the FBI put out. It is a lie. The guns they had were legal. The local sheriff investigated and found no basis for complaints against them. These were law-abiding American citizens, even if they thought differently to most other folks. They trusted the U.S. Constitution to ensure their political rights, but they were murdered by agents acting under the authority of the U.S. government. Read this page if you believe otherwise. If you still have doubts, get the video Rules of Engagement for visual evidence. Or read the book Armageddon in Waco. Or see the film Waco: A New Revelation. Waco occurred under the presidency of Bill Clinton, with Janet Reno and Wesley Clark in supporting roles. Already back in 1993 the US government demonstrated its contempt for the American people by carrying out a massacre in order to "demonstrate" (on prime time TV) its supposed "authority" (a tactic favored by fascist governments). Following the usurpation of the presidency in 2000 by the psychopath George W. Bush, and the subsequent installation of the insane John Ashcroft as Bush's Himmler, things became much worse. On 9/11 about forty times as many people were murdered as at Waco. In both cases the murderers have so far gone unpunished. The atrocity that slipped through the cracks. What country deserves to be overthrown for these kinds of atrocities? Its not worth squat, there is no evidence, there isnt even circumstantial evidence that alqaeda did it, it only deserves a segment if you want to promote the continuation of the imperialism(its not a war), practiced by the us government. Why would you want to do that?

TheHeretic -> RE: Iraqi Village Slaughtered (7/4/2007 8:18:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sinergy quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic in an area where AQI is known to be operating. That was my other question. What evidence actually suggests Al Qaeda is known to be operating in that area? Tarot Cards? Tea Leaves? Cat Entrails? Feel free to provide something that is not the (known dubious on so many other examples) twaddle emanating from the White House Press Office. Sinergy Again, Sinergy, my paradigm does require me to assume anybody on the US side is lying or up to no good. That is the enemy we were there to fight. I'm off to a different sort of fireworks and tomorrow is a 'school day.' Who knows? There might even be some firm information when I get back to this.

TheHeretic -> RE: Iraqi Village Slaughtered (7/4/2007 8:20:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne This was a atrocity too: The Waco Massacre Now that we could generally agree on, I think.

Sinergy -> RE: Iraqi Village Slaughtered (7/5/2007 12:32:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic Again, Sinergy, my paradigm does require me to assume anybody on the US side is lying or up to no good. Cool. I am on the US side. Let me know when I can expect the $13,248,719,208,374 for the London Bridge, since you agree that nobody on the US side could possibly have anything but honorable intentions. Sinergy p.s. It almost seems unethical to fleece the gullible.

TheHeretic -> RE: Iraqi Village Slaughtered (7/5/2007 6:46:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sinergy I am on the US side. Really? You hide that very well. [8\|]

farglebargle -> RE: Iraqi Village Slaughtered (7/5/2007 6:54:57 AM)
I have this hypothesis that Waco, TX is located on some sort of a Karmic Rift in the Universe.

SeeksOnlyOne -> RE: Iraqi Village Slaughtered (7/5/2007 6:58:18 AM)
i read the article best i could, without seeing the pictures, havent read all the posts, but just want to say-i am just sorry it happened at all.....ill leave it to yall to figure out whos responsible....

TheHeretic -> RE: Iraqi Village Slaughtered (7/5/2007 6:58:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle I have this hypothesis that Waco, TX is located on some sort of a Karmic Rift in the Universe. That could be true of much of the State of Texas, Fargle. I'm of the opinion that Waco was located in the wrong part of the newspapers in relation to the agenda of a new administration.

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