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RE: † Micro managing † - 7/10/2007 11:56:52 AM

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Ok .. I have heard the bad views now lets hear some ways that you can see it being beneficial??

It can be fun. It can be challenging. In overcoming the challenge, I show him how much effort I am willing to put forth on his behalf. In return he is pleased and expresses his pleasure. That I am the source of this pleasure is of no small importance.

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RE: † Micro managing † - 7/10/2007 4:31:10 PM

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Heh... define micromanage. The general term is negative and doesn't work. Some Doms gives subs orders to follow when they don't see them often or only online and that is different. They are not really micromanaging because they are not telling them what to do 24/7 in person. That is only being detailed with a schedule or something which is much different than observing and correcting someone constantly. Personally, I don't do anything like that. All I want is her ingrained desire to do what I say. That is gained by lots of things, but micromanaging is not one of them.

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RE: † Micro managing † - 7/10/2007 4:53:39 PM

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I personally don't care for it when what it comes down to is my overseeing every single aspect of a submissive's life...telling her to when to eat, when to sleep, when to take a bath, what to wear to work/out with the girls/to dinner, and on and on.

Management at some level is something that most dominants do, whether you refer to it as guidance or control or management.

I think cjenny did make an interesting point...it depends on how the people involved look at it. She seems to relish control at many levels and yet notes some things that would become irritating and not relished. So perhaps this is another one of those areas wherein the context is what is important within the relationship.

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RE: † Micro managing † - 7/10/2007 5:01:09 PM

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I would use Micro managing her in a task that she would not be pleasing Me in . I have to stand over her and then Make sure it is done right. As I saw someone say earlier a slave is supposed to be serving and Making My life a lil easier not harder by having to stand over the top of them all day . How do you feel about micromanaging as a form of punishment ??

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RE: † Micro managing † - 7/10/2007 5:07:53 PM

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I always put myself in the micro-managed category. He doesn't stand over me but everything I do is within his guidelines or with his permission. It is has been a good number of years so these things are just ingrained. I use micromanagement to mean he doesn't leave things up to my judgement or opinion, not that mine are bad but his are what he wants followed. It ensures that things are exactly as he likes them all the time.

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RE: † Micro managing † - 7/11/2007 7:34:36 AM

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I would use Micro managing her in a task that she would not be pleasing Me in . I have to stand over her and then Make sure it is done right. As I saw someone say earlier a slave is supposed to be serving and Making My life a lil easier not harder by having to stand over the top of them all day . How do you feel about micromanaging as a form of punishment ??

I agree with the idea that a submissive's/slave's tasks...at least one of them...is to make her dominant's life easier. That said, micromanagement of the type wherein it is required that I stand over her to make sure that things are done properly is not improvement of her service abilities other than for that time if she is defiant or if it is what she relishes in terms of attention, is it? If she learns, as BeingChewsie noted she did, then it would be an effective means of teaching initially.

As for punishment for a task not performed properly...yes, it can be effective to take a submissive not used to being micromanaged and micromanage her through every possible step of the task.

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RE: † Micro managing † - 7/11/2007 5:30:59 PM

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Ok I have another interesting topic that I have to question here . What are your beliefs on micro managing ?? Is this good in small doeses or more harmful than good ? Do subs / slaves want or even need that kind of control ? It is alot of work for a Dom. I dont feel as though it is needed in Most cases that I have been involved . But I seem to think it has its place. Is this a common mistake for new Doms to make ? I know when I was new at the life I tried to micro manage way to hard and it caused more problems than it did good .Whats the take on it ?

I don't like being micro managed. It makes me feel like the person incharge doesn't think I can do it.

It's alot of work for doms...

I am not a dom, but I have tried to micro manage people... it takes so much time that I might as well be doing it my self.

Some people like it... but I never need or want it.

Shylah

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RE: † Micro managing † - 7/11/2007 5:35:22 PM

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How about permission to speak? permission to be excused ? permission to greet others ?

I don't see those things a micro management.

They are ways of training...I'm sure that none of those are intended to be done from the start to the end of a relationship.

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RE: † Micro managing † - 7/12/2007 4:42:40 AM

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Micromanagement doesn't work for me however I have known others who found it a necessary and meaningful part of their relationship. From your post it sounds like it is not for you.

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RE: † Micro managing † - 7/14/2007 4:00:46 PM

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Personally, I cannot stand being micro-managed at work. I know my job, now leave me alone to get it done. The more time one wastes hovering, is time wasted that the project is left unfinished. I pretty much like to know what is expected and then just want to be left alone to get it done. Whether I do it one way or another (unless it involves a legal/technical issue) should not be paramount in getting the project completed, as long as it is completed.

As for personal relationships, I very much enjoy guidance and control, but to be micro-managed continuously on a daily basis would probably make me a verra grumpy submissive. Once I know what He expects and how He likes His meatloaf, tea, bath, etc., why would there be a need for Him to hover and check each time, all the time? I am a reasonably intelligent woman, once explained, unless it is verra technical, I am pretty sure I can cope on my own. Hopefully, that would be His end goal - a well trained (and thus to me, happy) submissive, capable of taking care of His needs without having to be told each and every day what is generally expected.

But as the saying goes, what works for one, doesn't always work for some, so to each their own. Whatever it is that makes you happy and your relationship work, is just cool.

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