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RE: BDSM and the SCA - 7/10/2007 10:19:40 AM   
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I don't think the idea of using alcohol to "loosen-up" is at all exclusive to us SCA-geeks. :)

We do a lot of drinking, this is true... but it all falls into the category of revelry right? We're just being historically accurate! As for the casual sex.. I guess as getting drunk is a means to an end for me... :) I just don't get see that side of the Society.

It may have something to do laying preference on occupying ourselves with all things creative and stimulating.. I know that my SCA friends are also Lifestylers.. as well as the people we sit and play DnD with every week.

SCA - Society for Creative Anachronism. FYI - an anachronism is anything that is temporally incongruous... or something that appears to be out of its normal place, or time period.

Good Question! It had never crossed my mind....



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RE: BDSM and the SCA - 7/10/2007 12:40:31 PM   
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RE: BDSM and the SCA - 7/10/2007 1:08:10 PM   
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Aha...I finally know where all those renaissance faire folk come from.

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RE: BDSM and the SCA - 7/10/2007 3:13:17 PM   
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I used to play SCA.

What a complete joke I found it to be.

Kudos to those who actually enjoy the insane levels of self-righteous, circle-jerking, self-congratulatory bullshit. :-)

The home brew was definitely the best part.. that, and the super easy chicks...

Gotta agree on Faramir's sigline.

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RE: BDSM and the SCA - 7/10/2007 7:04:31 PM   
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OK, this thread has my interest piqued.  Actually, Elle, Kat and I went to the Ren Faire last weekend and had a great time.  We are planning to go on "Pirates Weekend"
with Kat in a gown, tied up and gagged like our prisoner.  We are all quite excited about it.

I think I am going to look into the local SCA just for kicks.

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RE: BDSM and the SCA - 7/10/2007 7:12:46 PM   
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There's certainly a lot of people in the BDSM world who DRESS as though they belong at a SCA festival.

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A post on the screen names thread has got me wondering about the connection between the lifestyle and the SCA. My sister and her husband have been active in the SCA for over 20 years. They go to Penzic every year and he's the queen's archer from their kingdom, etc. Do they know about the lifestyle and I don't know they do?
 
For those of you who are involved, did one lead to the other, or did common interests lead you to BDSM and medieval re-enactments? And where do you think the connection and/or commonality lies?

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RE: BDSM and the SCA - 7/11/2007 1:01:59 PM   
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This thread has inspired me to go off on a rant here. I’m probably going to get one hell of a flaming for this but eh…I really don’t care.
  The SCA (and by extension the gorians) crowd have been the scourge of the BDSM community since the early or mid 1990’s and I personally know of three fetish clubs that were forced to close their doors as a result these people. Perfectly good fetish/Goth/Industrial clubs lost their main patronage because when these people started showing up dressed up like Robins Merry Men no one wanted to be in the same bar with the likes of them.
  I remember the first time I ran into a group of SCAers at a Fetish club. Two fat, middle-aged graying dufuses, one with a beard and bifocals, wearing a hooded cloak and carrying a walking stick and the other dressed like a character out of a Shakespeare play. The girl they were with, an obscenely fat girl in her early 20’s with stringy grease laden hair, yellowing picket fence teeth and horrible acne, was wearing some green fairy dress not unlike something Stevie Nicks would wear. She was stomping around the dance floor fluttering her dress (ala Ms. Nicks) with all the grace of a three legged bull elephant stuck in the mud. I guess she decided not enough people were watching her so she moved her ‘dance’ into the bar where she would bust through conversation circles, ran into the guys playing pool and just annoyed the hell out of everyone.
  I was standing at the bar with a friend (who was a very in-your-face kind of guy) watching this lard ass. When she ‘fluttered’ by my friend blurted out “What the fuck are you doing?” She stopped, took a second to catch her breath and said “I’m an elfin maiden”. *stunned silence*….”What the fuck…huh?!” my friend yelled. She paused, rolled her eyes and repeated herself but as she did she pulled her hair behind her ear to reveal the prosthetic Mr. Spock Vulcan ear she glued on. “I’m an elfin maiden *giggle*” and away she went. I happened to look over at her middle-aged beaus and they were looking back at me with these shit-eating grins as if to say “yea…were taping that ass”. I just shuttered and ordered another Vodka. Within a year a quarter of this clubs crowd were people like these so the rest of us stopped going and the club closed some time later.
  Now I’m not saying that all SCAers are exactly like the people described above, but I have never met one who didn’t have similar traits. I mean Christ, I’ve seen several times SCAers at these clubs rolling multi-sided dice to decide who gets to do what to who, they’re just silly and need to grow the fuck up.
  I really wish there was some way to draw a better line of distinction between the fetishists and the SCAers. They’re not into BDSM as much as they’re into ‘Fantasy role play sex’.

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RE: BDSM and the SCA - 7/11/2007 1:08:40 PM   
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Now I’m not saying that all SCAers are exactly like the people described above, but I have never met one who didn’t have similar traits.


Where else are people like that going to go?

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RE: BDSM and the SCA - 7/11/2007 1:11:49 PM   
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Now I’m not saying that all SCAers are exactly like the people described above, but I have never met one who didn’t have similar traits.


Where else are people like that going to go?


Slippery Rock, PA for two weeks in August.


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RE: BDSM and the SCA - 7/11/2007 1:15:17 PM   
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Slippery Rock, PA for two weeks in August.

ROFL Pennsic prevails!

I read Astros thread and the only thing I could distinguish between the SCAers and the kinksters I've seen at every event I've been to were the colors of clothes that they wore.

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RE: BDSM and the SCA - 7/11/2007 1:20:06 PM   
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Or Kings Arrow Ranch for one week in March, for those who can't get two weeks off.

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RE: BDSM and the SCA - 7/11/2007 1:26:37 PM   
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Pennsic
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Now I’m not saying that all SCAers are exactly like the people described above, but I have never met one who didn’t have similar traits.


Where else are people like that going to go?


I dunno, maybe there's a gamming store open late, Jenny Craig's might be good to...Comic-Con is here in a month or so, I know they're gonna be here in San Diego

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RE: BDSM and the SCA - 7/11/2007 1:28:36 PM   
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Yeah but the people at the goth/industrial clubs are so warm and inviting....

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RE: BDSM and the SCA - 7/11/2007 1:33:53 PM   
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They’re not into BDSM as much as they’re into ‘Fantasy role play sex’.


BDSM is, at it's very core, fantasy role play sex.

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RE: BDSM and the SCA - 7/11/2007 1:35:43 PM   
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I read Astros thread and the only thing I could distinguish between the SCAers and the kinksters I've seen at every event I've been to were the colors of clothes that they wore.


I read his post and it sounded like a place I would like to hang out.  I like being around people who aren't afraid to be different.  I like being around people who don't have to have perfect bodies to think of themselves as elfen maidens.

I am going to attend my first SCA meeting next month, thanks to this thread...

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RE: BDSM and the SCA - 7/11/2007 1:46:31 PM   
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I read his post and it sounded like a place I would like to hang out.  I like being around people who aren't afraid to be different.  I like being around people who don't have to have perfect bodies to think of themselves as elfen maidens.

I am going to attend my first SCA meeting next month, thanks to this thread...

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The fact that anyone can present themselves as a member of royalty, a great swordsman, a learned scholar, etc.  is one of the attractions to the SCA...
And one of its turn offs, since a lot of ego and power games get played in pursuit of status, as humans are wont to do..

IMHO, the fringies have it the best... show up in a costume, have a good time, don't take anyone seriously, and go home. (You don't have to be a member to attend, and even members don't have to play the rank game unless they want to) 

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RE: BDSM and the SCA - 7/11/2007 1:49:45 PM   
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IMHO, the fringies have it the best...


I find that true of almost every club/group/society/clique.  Use 'em for the good stuff and walk away from the bad...

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RE: BDSM and the SCA - 7/11/2007 2:05:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: instynctive
Slippery Rock, PA for two weeks in August.

ROFL Pennsic prevails!

I read Astros thread and the only thing I could distinguish between the SCAers and the kinksters I've seen at every event I've been to were the colors of clothes that they wore.


Then they must be a great places to get in some people watching....Since I don't attend events or faires....Is it awful of me to find astro's account extremely humorous? 

Does anyone nudge a friend and say, "Oh my fucking god!!!...Check that out"  Or have you reached a level of maturity and tolerance that nothing takes you back a step?

I'm afraid I haven't reached that level....I'm rarely invited to such events or funerals.

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RE: BDSM and the SCA - 7/11/2007 2:12:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TallDarkAndWitty

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I read Astros thread and the only thing I could distinguish between the SCAers and the kinksters I've seen at every event I've been to were the colors of clothes that they wore.


I read his post and it sounded like a place I would like to hang out.  I like being around people who aren't afraid to be different.  I like being around people who don't have to have perfect bodies to think of themselves as elfen maidens.

I am going to attend my first SCA meeting next month, thanks to this thread...

Taggard



That may all be well and good, if you want to pretend you're Shaharazad Queen of the Gypsies fine. My point, which maybe I didn't make clear, wasn't that they're just social mis-fits outta touch with reality, but that they rudely foist themselves on people that want nothing to do with them.

You wouldn't go into a Country and Western bar with your friends and a boom box and play Speed Metal on it would you? No of course not. Just like you wouldn't go into a black tie gala event with a bunch of friends dressed in latex and leather and foist your BDSM ways on the other people. You wouldn't do that becuase it's rude. If you want to hear Speed Metal go to a Metal bar, if you want to wear leather and latex go to a BDSM bar, if you want to pretend you live in 16th century go to where ever it is others like you are. Just stay out of the Goth/BDSM bars.

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RE: BDSM and the SCA - 7/11/2007 2:17:34 PM   
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Even though I've always enjoyed going to Ren Faires, SCA has just never appealed to me, and I'm not sure why, lol. Probably because it involves cumbersome, hot, uncomfortable clothing.

As far as non-mainstream freaky groups go, I'll stick with the clothing-optional Pagan gatherings. <g>

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