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RE: Handicap Parking spot rant - 7/10/2007 8:32:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		When I needed to use the handicapped spots, I did so grudingly. I hated having to be in a position to NEED to be there, even though I could barely walk upright, and was lucky t make it to a cart to lean on before I was ready to keel over.
When I see someone usingthe spots for a fast run inand out of a store, becasue they "will only be a minute" I have a set of post it notes that I keep in teh car.  I simply stick a note to their rear view mirror that says "Pray you never really need this spot. Have some respect next time for someone who shows up and does"
It might not help much, but at least someone thinks twice.

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RE: Handicap Parking spot rant - 7/10/2007 8:33:20 PM   
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I know that not ALL people who park in those spots are doing for decent reasons--- but my uncle who was in a work related accident and broke his back and could hardly walk used to use handicapped spots. His work was resistant about documenting his injury and he didn't have insurance and couldn't get a handicapped parking permit (or whatever) for about three months into his illness. So since I don't know each person's individual reasons for doing stuff like that, I try not to judge them too harshly. And where I come from there are generally plenty of open handicapped parking spaces everywhere.


You don't get validation for a disability placard or plate from your employer or insurance co...you get it from the doctor that treats you.  He evidently was ill advised as to how to obtain one.  You also can get a tempory tag for a temporary voucher.  No excuse. Sorry. 

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Some people mentiond being totally irate at people who let someone sit in the firelane and wait for people to get in an out. I'll admit I've done that a few times. It wasn't about being lazy for me, it was about being in a major rush and needing to get in and get out super fast.

 
I gotta ask.. WHAT was so urgent?

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 Also I used to pull up there and wait for my elderly grandma (who did have a handicapped parking permit) who had congestive heart failure and walking to even the handicapped parking spots made her really really weak and short of breath. :So... yet again... I try not to judge those people. When I notice people doing that, its USUALLY for wha


Why did you not use your grandmother's placard when you when to pick her up then?   All I can say kid, is "tell it to the judge" 
 
quote:
seems like an elderly spouse, or someone in a super rush.
 

fuck 'em 

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They are out of the way generally and left the person in the car to move it in case of an emergency, so it doesn't really bother me when they do.


Ok.. how's this for thinking outside of the box"  How about having the person wait at the entrance while you park somewhere in view and driving up to pick them up?  Evidently it doesn't bother you because you never NEEDED a handicap spot yourself.

quote:

Situations don't always APPEAR to be what they REALLY are. But of course... some people obviously DO take advantage of the handicapped spots. I just wanted to offer a friendly reminder of the other side of the picture.


As you see from my responses above, there IS no "other side".  There are alternatives if you  just think a bit before you invite yourself where you don't belong. 

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RE: Handicap Parking spot rant - 7/10/2007 8:42:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ok.. how's this for thinking outsdide of the box"  How about having the person wait at the entrance while you park somewhere in view and driving up to pick them up?  Evidently it doesn't bother you because you never NEEDED a handicap spot yourself.
 
My husband has done this for me before, even though I was given an extra placard for when I'm riding in his car.  I'm right there with you Lotus....NO EXCUSES.
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RE: Handicap Parking spot rant - 7/10/2007 8:42:50 PM   
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First, you have to be adjudicated as disabled by the respective service that you're in.
Then you enter the Veteran's Administration system or are retired by your respective branch of the military.
After that you join the Disabled American Veterans org.
Then, they check your Military or Veterans records or both.
Only then can you get one of those stickers.


I guess that still doesn't really answer what I was wondering about. My father is a DAV. But his disability does not impair his ability to walk, so therefore, while he is certified as disabled by the military, he can not use that to park in handicapped spaces.


Misto, I don't know how they do things up there but if he needs a handicapped plate he should submit his V.A. paperwork to the State of Michigan Dept of Motor Vehicles Dept.
They usually will go with the V.A. doctor's opinions and issue a
"Handicapped" or "Disabled Veteran" plate.
If he has an official "DAV" sticker on his vehicle he really doesn't need a special lisense plate.
If he has no problem with walking why would he even want to park in a handicapped space?
I can park in those spaces but like I said I don't unless I'm in a lot of pain. Why use it if you don't need it?


My Father's disability is in his arm. He does not require (or want) a handicapped plate for an arm injury. He has a DAV license plate, but that does not enable one to park in a handicapped spot unless your disability specifically affects your ability to walk. The reason why I was asking about the sticker is because my Mother is disabled with congestive heart failure and COPD. She does have a handicapped placard. I asked about the sticker because if it legally allows you to use handicapped parking, then they would not have to pay the extra costs for the placard. She does not drive and so my Father's vehicle is the one she is always in.

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RE: Handicap Parking spot rant - 7/10/2007 8:46:50 PM   
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i've always wondered why people get massively wound about violating a handicapped parking space, but not a handicapped toilet stall. After all, usually the need to use the toilet is a lot more urgent than the need to park a car...


I always use the handicapped stall, I need the rail to help me get up with a bad knee and bad hip.  Someone once told me that was reserved for wheelchairs as I limped off. At home we have a riser on the seat.


Handicapped parking spots are RESERVED for handicapped people whereas those "handicapped toilets" are considered handicapped accessible, rather than reserved. People make use of many handicapped accessible things- ramps instead of stairs, flattened curbs and so on. Mothers with toddlers or babies are often in need of the extra space in a handicapped toilet stall and in fact many places have those baby changers on the wall for just that purpose. However, as in all things...a little courtesy goes a long way, and one can always defer to someone who needs it more.

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RE: Handicap Parking spot rant - 7/10/2007 8:47:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		i've seen so many people that have a placard/plate that appeared to walk just fine. not showing any signs of needing the spots. i really do think that there should be two types of handicapped parking spots, those for cars and those strickly for vans with lifts/ramps. and then there's the motorcyclists that park in the blue-stripped zones. many times i've had to complain to the store manager (mainly because the police department says they can't do anything on "private property"...what's that all about?)

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RE: Handicap Parking spot rant - 7/10/2007 8:49:28 PM   
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LotusSong:
My mom had to use a wheel chair the last few years of her life.  Not full time...she could walk ten or twenty feet but much farther than that and she would need her chair.  She and her wheel chair buds devised a plan to deal with people like you describe.  They had these posters made up (about note book size) and the poster went into great detail about how what the offender was doing was not only illegal but a royal pain in the ass.  They would then attach them to the windshield of the offenders car.  I do not know where they found the adhesive that was on them but the only way you could get them off was with a razor blade and a ton of elbow grease.  Of course being that size it was pretty difficult to drive with it in place.  Yeah my mom had a mean streak in her.
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RE: Handicap Parking spot rant - 7/10/2007 8:51:08 PM   
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Ok.. how's this for thinking outsdide of the box"  How about having the person wait at the entrance while you park somewhere in view and driving up to pick them up?  Evidently it doesn't bother you because you never NEEDED a handicap spot yourself.
 
My husband has done this for me before, even though I was given an extra placard for when I'm riding in his car.  I'm right there with you Lotus....NO EXCUSES.
Mistress Scarlet




There are times that my husband will unload me at the entrance and find a spot to park the van when an HC space isn't available, also.  When I'm by myself ,I don't have that luxury.
 
I did get inventive today though... I found two empty regular spots side by side and one was on the end of the row by the curb.  I sort of parked to take 1- 1/2 spots so I could  deploy my ramp and get out.  I parked so that the curb side was the 1/2 remaining.   This prevented someone from pulling in and blocking me.  If someone was pissed and figured they'd block my driver's door, it wouldn't matter.. I enter from the right side :)

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RE: Handicap Parking spot rant - 7/10/2007 8:55:10 PM   
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i've seen so many people that have a placard/plate that appeared to walk just fine. not showing any signs of needing the spots.

And when did you get your medical degree?  As it's already been pointed out, disabilities don't always show.  Just because I can suck it up and not "look like I need it" means I must not need it?

i really do think that there should be two types of handicapped parking spots, those for cars and those strickly for vans with lifts/ramps.

There already are.  Some spot are simply marked "handicapped" and some are marked for "van accessible".

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RE: Handicap Parking spot rant - 7/10/2007 8:58:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well i didnt read this whole thread... but i got the jest of it.... and it brought back to mind a comedian i heard.... Jeff Dunham... and he has this "dummy" that he uses that is a crotchity old man named Walter.... and one of his bits was :

I was tryin to find me a handicap spot at the mall the other day... and i saw a guy pulling out... so while i was waiting for the spot this lil sports car whips around and zooms into the spot.... he got out the car and wasnt a thing wrong with him....... so i ran him over.. he didnt get too upset... but his wife beat me with her crutches.... guess they are both gonna need spots now huh


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RE: Handicap Parking spot rant - 7/10/2007 9:00:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Nikolette

I know that not ALL people who park in those spots are doing for decent reasons--- but my uncle who was in a work related accident and broke his back and could hardly walk used to use handicapped spots. His work was resistant about documenting his injury and he didn't have insurance and couldn't get a handicapped parking permit (or whatever) for about three months into his illness. So since I don't know each person's individual reasons for doing stuff like that, I try not to judge them too harshly. And where I come from there are generally plenty of open handicapped parking spaces everywhere.


You don't get validation for a disability placard or plate from your employer or insurance co...you get it from the doctor that treats you.  He evidently was ill advised as to how to obtain one.  You also can get a tempory tag for a temporary voucher.  No excuse. Sorry. 

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Some people mentiond being totally irate at people who let someone sit in the firelane and wait for people to get in an out. I'll admit I've done that a few times. It wasn't about being lazy for me, it was about being in a major rush and needing to get in and get out super fast.

 
I gotta ask.. WHAT was so urgent?

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 Also I used to pull up there and wait for my elderly grandma (who did have a handicapped parking permit) who had congestive heart failure and walking to even the handicapped parking spots made her really really weak and short of breath. :So... yet again... I try not to judge those people. When I notice people doing that, its USUALLY for wha


Why did you not use your grandmother's placard when you when to pick her up then?   All I can say kid, is "tell it to the judge" 
 
quote:
seems like an elderly spouse, or someone in a super rush.
 

fuck 'em 

quote:

They are out of the way generally and left the person in the car to move it in case of an emergency, so it doesn't really bother me when they do.


Ok.. how's this for thinking outside of the box"  How about having the person wait at the entrance while you park somewhere in view and driving up to pick them up?  Evidently it doesn't bother you because you never NEEDED a handicap spot yourself.

quote:

Situations don't always APPEAR to be what they REALLY are. But of course... some people obviously DO take advantage of the handicapped spots. I just wanted to offer a friendly reminder of the other side of the picture.


As you see from my responses above, there IS no "other side".  There are alternatives if you  just think a bit before you invite yourself where you don't belong. 


Ya know, I'm with you on the lazy asses in the handi-spaces....but lady you're way too militant about this. Especially because you can't read. The person you just told to "tell it to the judge" just TOLD you that when she picks up her grandma, sometimes even the handi-spaces are too far to walk for her. I get miffed seeing people in red lanes all the time but I promise you, if I saw an elderly lady hobbling to a car in sitting in a red zone while their grandchild or whover was waiting or helping, I would have no issue with that whatsoever. My mom just had surgery a month ago and, while not 'handicapped' per se, she couldn't walk very far at all because of the pain. Sticker/placard? Nope...but you can bet your ass if it spared her some pain, I'd park as close as I possibly could. In our case, the situation never arose where we would have taken a handi-space, largely because I left her at home while I did the running around for her meds and such. But if she were in the car and needed to go inside somewhere, as close as I could get her, that's where she'd be. And I'd laugh if I were ticketed for that because I'd whip out my cell and take a video of her hobbling, wincing in pain to the car, and show THAT to the judge with my attorney present. Can you say dismised?

Let me reiterate - I HATE when people park in those spaces and don't need them. And to those defending people who may 'be' disabled but don't 'look' it.... trust me, when you see a black lady and her friends going into the place you work, strutting into the building wearing 4-inch stilleto heels...it's fairly obvious they aren't disabled. I've never met a disabled person that can wear 4" heels. Hell that is a feat even for able-bodied women. And don't get me started on the morons in my building who park NOT in the hand-space....but in the STRIPED SPACE NEXT TO IT!!!!! The space is CLEARLY striped ALL over it indicated that it is NOT a parking space because it's there for those with the vans.....but these, lazy, good for nothing ******'s (I'll let you figure out the class of people I'm talking about here) park there anyway!!!!!!

I say pop their tires and let the tow-truck get 'em out.


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RE: Handicap Parking spot rant - 7/10/2007 9:06:01 PM   
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I know that not ALL people who park in those spots are doing for decent reasons--- but my uncle who was in a work related accident and broke his back and could hardly walk used to use handicapped spots. His work was resistant about documenting his injury and he didn't have insurance and couldn't get a handicapped parking permit (or whatever) for about three months into his illness. 

This one just MIGHT be a legitimate excuse.  If his place of employment refused to acknowledge his injury and refused to pay for a doctor AND he was not able to afford one on his own, it may have caused problems for him.  You have to actually see a doctor (at least I did) and be diagnosed and issued a slip that you then take to the license branch to receive your placard or license plate. 
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RE: Handicap Parking spot rant - 7/10/2007 9:08:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		I want to add a side comment here.. I use a power chair.  I steer with my right hand leaving my left free.  Sometimes (depending on the door) I have a bit of trouble driving and reaching over with the left hand to open the door.   So, if you see someone sort of struggling.. don't wait until they are almost through the door and ask "do you need help"?  Just do it.  Most of us will attempt to manage on our own because we (ok.. me) are stubbornly independent and don't like to bother another for assistance of something as minor as opening a door.  But rest assured it's appreciated.

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RE: Handicap Parking spot rant - 7/10/2007 9:10:27 PM   
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There already are. Some spot are simply marked "handicapped" and some are marked for "van accessible".


but cars still park in these spots, so calling them "Van Accessable" is useless.


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RE: Handicap Parking spot rant - 7/10/2007 9:11:53 PM   
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I want to add a side comment here.. I use a power chair.  I steer with my right hand leaving my left free.  Sometimes (depending on the door) I have a bit of trouble driving and reaching over with the left hand to open the door.   So, if you see someone sort of struggling.. don't wait until they are almost through the door and ask "do you need help"?  Just do it.  Most of us will attempt to manage on our own because we (ok.. me) are stubbornly independent and don't like to bother another for assistance of something as minor as opening a door.  But rest assured it's appreciated.


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RE: Handicap Parking spot rant - 7/10/2007 9:16:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ya know, I'm with you on the lazy asses in the handi-spaces....but lady you're way too militant about this. Especially because you can't read. The person you just told to "tell it to the judge" just TOLD you that when she picks up her grandma, sometimes even the handi-spaces are too far to walk for her. I get miffed seeing people in red lanes all the time but I promise you, if I saw an elderly lady hobbling to a car in sitting in a red zone while their grandchild or whover was waiting or helping, I would have no issue with that whatsoever.

If she had her handicap placard on the mirror or a handicap plate on the back of the car, I doubt if even Lotus would object to that. 
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RE: Handicap Parking spot rant - 7/10/2007 9:22:40 PM   
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Ya know, I'm with you on the lazy asses in the handi-spaces....but lady you're way too militant about this. Especially because you can't read.


No, YOU read. Her granny HAS a placard.  She didn’t use it.  I reposted the post for your reading conveinience below:
 

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Also I used to pull up there and wait for my elderly grandma (who did have a handicapped parking permit) who had congestive heart failure and walking to even the handicapped parking spots made her really really weak and short of breath. :So... yet again... I try not to judge those people. When I notice people doing that, its USUALLY for wha


Why did you not use your grandmother's placard when you when to pick her up then?   All I can say kid, is "tell it to the judge" 


And Sardonic- next time you take granny to the doctor.. ASK him for the form for a disability plate.  I'm sure she can get one.  Take it to the MVD and you'll get a plate* AND placard.  no charge- *it simply replaces your existing plates.

I'm pissed and I'll be as militant as it takes

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RE: Handicap Parking spot rant - 7/10/2007 9:24:04 PM   
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There already are. Some spot are simply marked "handicapped" and some are marked for "van accessible".


but cars still park in these spots, so calling them "Van Accessible" is useless.



You can only label them.  You can't oversee which people use which ones as long as they're handicapped.  You asked why they didn't make one for each use.  The ones marked "van accessible" are wider than the ones for cars.  There is no rule, however, that other handicapped people can't park there.  I personally don't do it, but it's not illegal. 
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RE: Handicap Parking spot rant - 7/10/2007 9:25:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Nikolette

I know that not ALL people who park in those spots are doing for decent reasons--- but my uncle who was in a work related accident and broke his back and could hardly walk used to use handicapped spots. His work was resistant about documenting his injury and he didn't have insurance and couldn't get a handicapped parking permit (or whatever) for about three months into his illness. So since I don't know each person's individual reasons for doing stuff like that, I try not to judge them too harshly. And where I come from there are generally plenty of open handicapped parking spaces everywhere.


You don't get validation for a disability placard or plate from your employer or insurance co...you get it from the doctor that treats you. He evidently was ill advised as to how to obtain one. You also can get a tempory tag for a temporary voucher. No excuse. Sorry.



"sorry" ??? Like YOU are... the... high judge on this matter? that is extremely egotistical of you. And I didn't say he thought he would GET one from his employer or insurance... I said that the employer wasn't documenting his injury. Which meant, FYI, he couldn't AFFORD TO GO TO THE DOCTOR. Not everyone is lucky enough to be able to PAY for health care, and when you have a wife and kids, you cand incur a bunch of doctors bills and have no way to pay them. But your compassion.... that is really deep of you.

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Some people mentiond being totally irate at people who let someone sit in the firelane and wait for people to get in an out. I'll admit I've done that a few times. It wasn't about being lazy for me, it was about being in a major rush and needing to get in and get out super fast.


I gotta ask.. WHAT was so urgent?

I'm not sure, but I'm not an incredibly selfish person, so it was probably important.

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Also I used to pull up there and wait for my elderly grandma (who did have a handicapped parking permit) who had congestive heart failure and walking to even the handicapped parking spots made her really really weak and short of breath. :So... yet again... I try not to judge those people. When I notice people doing that, its USUALLY for wha


Why did you not use your grandmother's placard when you when to pick her up then? All I can say kid, is "tell it to the judge"

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seems like an elderly spouse, or someone in a super rush.


fuck 'em

Again... You didn't read this correctly. HER CONGESTIVE HEART FAILURE MADE HER TOO WEAK AND OUT OF BREATH TO WALK TO THE PARKING SPOT. I genuinely hope the caps made it easy to read. Although from your high horse--- it must be hard.

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They are out of the way generally and left the person in the car to move it in case of an emergency, so it doesn't really bother me when they do.


Ok.. how's this for thinking outside of the box" How about having the person wait at the entrance while you park somewhere in view and driving up to pick them up? Evidently it doesn't bother you because you never NEEDED a handicap spot yourself.

That is awfully presumptuous. Need doesn't always equal rigid demand. Is THAT outside the box enough for you?

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Situations don't always APPEAR to be what they REALLY are. But of course... some people obviously DO take advantage of the handicapped spots. I just wanted to offer a friendly reminder of the other side of the picture.


As you see from my responses above, there IS no "other side". There are alternatives if you just think a bit before you invite yourself where you don't belong.


Since you suggested no alternatives, and haven't lived my... or these other people I've mentioned... life I'm pretty sure that you're not really in a position to be so hasty in your judgment. However, its obvious that you feel like you are. So lets agree to disagree. One of my oldest and best friends is paraplegic and we've discussed this topic a few times in the past, I'm glad that you don't speak for everyone who is handicapped. He tends to view things with a much more compassionate set of eyes.


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RE: Handicap Parking spot rant - 7/10/2007 9:40:40 PM   
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Ya know, I'm with you on the lazy asses in the handi-spaces....but lady you're way too militant about this. Especially because you can't read.


No, YOU read. Her granny HAS a placard.  She didn’t use it.  I reposted the post for your reading conveinience below:
 

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Also I used to pull up there and wait for my elderly grandma (who did have a handicapped parking permit) who had congestive heart failure and walking to even the handicapped parking spots made her really really weak and short of breath. :So... yet again... I try not to judge those people. When I notice people doing that, its USUALLY for wha


Why did you not use your grandmother's placard when you when to pick her up then?   All I can say kid, is "tell it to the judge" 


And Sardonic- next time you take granny to the doctor.. ASK him for the form for a disability plate.  I'm sure she can get one.  Take it to the MVD and you'll get a plate* AND placard.  no charge- *it simply replaces your existing plates.

I'm pissed and I'll be as militant as it takes


Alright then, miss omnipotent and seer of all things.....suppose Nikolette is across town and suddenly gets a call from dear old granny saying "Oh deary, can you pick me up, your brother brought me but had to go back to work..." Placard's nowhere in sight. What does poor Nikolette do? Make granny wait in the heat while she goes for a piece of plastic across town, or does she park a block away, likely causing her granny to pass out long before she reaches the car? Tell us, please. What's the option. As one in the know, I'm sure you know docs don't give out 'just in case' placards very easily. Why would he give one to the grandaughter who has no disabilities whatsoever on the 'off chance' she might need it for her grandmother. And before you say that dear old granny should bring it with her....I'm sure you're aware age does strange things to you. Maybe granny forgot....oh my gosh, sue the old lady because she forgot fer placard. No, let's have her walk a block and pass out from exhaustion....that'll teach the old lady to never forget again right?

Sheeesh. Give me a break.

And in my situation, my mom was only 'supposed' to be off work a week. No need for a placard there. She wasn't even supposed to drive during recovery (hence why I drove her). Suddenly, that 'week' turned into three proceedures, about to be 4, and five weeks out of work. Each time they say "you should be able to go back to work by next week." With no mention of a placard.

And I"ll be damned if I'm going to put her through extra pain just to satisfy your militant needs. Yeah, there are people who abuse those spaces...I see them every day. But if you put an iron grip on the whole thing, you're just hurting a large group of people who did nothing to you. That's just cold.



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