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reba -> RE: Women are...stupid and bossy and men listen? (7/13/2007 8:35:03 PM)

THANK YOU MISTRESS



akbarbarian -> RE: Women are...stupid and bossy and men listen? (7/13/2007 8:35:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

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ORIGINAL: akbarbarian

My hypothesis, not that I've seen it tested anywhere, is that people both considerably above or below the average IQ of their society become more socially awkward due to not seeing things the same way as the rest of the herd.  Anyone seen anything on that topic before?



Now this statement I definitely agree with. Peers tend to laugh at those with below average intelligence. Having a high IQ isn't much easier. Imagine being the only one in a class who understands something and being told to go read a book while the teacher explains the assignment a second time to everyone else. Many men resent intelligent women. I'm always accused of being too complex to deal with. I conducted an experiment a few years ago on a guy I liked. When I showed intelligence, he couldn't stand me. When I started acting stupid he fell for me. I was given two IQ tests. My lowest score was a 169, the highest a 173. I've never really fit in with anyone. I think having a high IQ is worse in many ways than having a low one.

Two of my best friends both have an IQ in the 160s, and then both tend to get along terribly with people.  I'm advantaged, in that mine is only in the mid 130s, but I've had that experience before where I'm told to study on my own due to being ahead of the class.  I suspect it hinders social development absolutely.



corsetgirl -> RE: Women are...stupid and bossy and men listen? (7/13/2007 8:39:02 PM)

A person with a high IQ does not necessarily mean they earn more money.  I have known some people who have high IQ's but refuse to use their talents to their full potential and I would refer these individuals as those having lazy intelligence.

On the other end of the spectrum, you might have those who do not have the intelligence but have the common sense to make it on their own.  Those with street smarts possess that talent and drive to better themselves in making the right choices.



MstrssPassion -> RE: Women are...stupid and bossy and men listen? (7/13/2007 8:40:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AtlantaTied

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Why did you delete... someone actually agrees with one of my posts & then they delete it... damn



defiantbadgirl -> RE: Women are...stupid and bossy and men listen? (7/13/2007 8:42:19 PM)

Are these 2 friends single?



Lashra -> RE: Women are...stupid and bossy and men listen? (7/13/2007 8:42:38 PM)

I think its a load of bullshit.  Sounds like something the National Enquirer would write. But the unenlightened will believe just about anything they are spoonfed.

~Lashra



reba -> RE: Women are...stupid and bossy and men listen? (7/13/2007 8:47:24 PM)

I THINK THAT STATEMENT WAS POSTED TO GET  ATTENTION  THATS ALL



sarahsweetie -> RE: Women are...stupid and bossy and men listen? (7/13/2007 8:49:32 PM)

The battle of the sexes is a never ending debate ... If people would just simply admit that men and women ARE actually different in many ways, but that doesn't mean that each gender can't be good at any given thing ... it would all be over ... Ahhh but that's too simple.

My issue with what you are saying is this ... IQ means not a dayum thing and my son is proof of that.  He is diagnosed with severe autism.  He's been given two IQ tests in his short life ... The first one scored a 52 and the second one scored an 88 ... this was in a years span of time.  In both tests he is considered mentally retarded .... Now go discuss with his teachers and therapists about him and they will tell you he is probably the smartest boy his age they know.  My son amazes me every day with the things he knows and observations he makes that i would never make ... the things he correlates ... well I would never see them if it wasn't for him.  But his IQ says he is less smart than any kid his age.  Why is this?  I've done studies about this ... The IQ test can be very inaccurate depending on your faults and strengths and also depending on when you take it ... how you are feeling, if you are tired, if you have eaten ... there are many variables that don't get taken into consideration. 

My daughter who is 3 years younger than my son scores much higher on an IQ test simply because she can communicate in a more "normal" way.  It's not fair to my son who sees the world in a different and possibly more brillant way.

I know this was a little off topic ... but ehh I felt the need to respond. 

(This is jadein by the way for any that might recognize me ... had to delete the other name for personal reasons)



reba -> RE: Women are...stupid and bossy and men listen? (7/13/2007 8:49:37 PM)

BUT REALLY MEN ARE NOT BETTER
THAN US, WE WORK JUST AS HARD
AS THEY DO TO GET ANYWARE



reba -> RE: Women are...stupid and bossy and men listen? (7/13/2007 8:51:17 PM)

ITS JUST WENT YOU SAY WE ARE STUPID ARE WE NOT SUPPOSE TO
ANSWER BACK,



akbarbarian -> RE: Women are...stupid and bossy and men listen? (7/13/2007 8:54:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

Are these 2 friends single?

One is married and has kids, but keeps to himself pretty much outside of family and work, and the other is single.



akbarbarian -> RE: Women are...stupid and bossy and men listen? (7/13/2007 8:55:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: corsetgirl

A person with a high IQ does not necessarily mean they earn more money.  I have known some people who have high IQ's but refuse to use their talents to their full potential and I would refer these individuals as those having lazy intelligence.

On the other end of the spectrum, you might have those who do not have the intelligence but have the common sense to make it on their own.  Those with street smarts possess that talent and drive to better themselves in making the right choices.

Well sure, we all experience small samples of what's out there as individuals, but it wouldn't stack up well as being a significant sized group if it was going to be a study.



reba -> RE: Women are...stupid and bossy and men listen? (7/13/2007 8:56:26 PM)

YES I COULD ADMIT I WAS WRONG FOR MAKING A STATMENT
LIKE I DID IN A EARLIER POST.
BUT CALL US STUPID THAT WAS NOT RIGHT EITHER.




defiantbadgirl -> RE: Women are...stupid and bossy and men listen? (7/13/2007 8:56:43 PM)

Exactly. Most men want women to be stupid. I guess the best thing to do is either not respond or agree with them.



akbarbarian -> RE: Women are...stupid and bossy and men listen? (7/13/2007 8:57:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lashra

I think its a load of bullshit.  Sounds like something the National Enquirer would write. But the unenlightened will believe just about anything they are spoonfed.

~Lashra


MSN.  I checked it out at work, and there it was on my start page.  That's hardly the Enquirer, but you know, they also say there is an invincible man out there made of clay.  It's not on MSN however just yet.



defiantbadgirl -> RE: Women are...stupid and bossy and men listen? (7/13/2007 8:59:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: akbarbarian

One is married and has kids, but keeps to himself pretty much outside of family and work, and the other is single.



Would you agree that men with high IQ's are more accepted than female geniuses?



akbarbarian -> RE: Women are...stupid and bossy and men listen? (7/13/2007 9:06:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

Exactly. Most men want women to be stupid. I guess the best thing to do is either not respond or agree with them.

There may be studies that support this.  It seems like I've read some, do you know of any?  If so, it would perhaps be men's fault of course for their selection over a period of time.



akbarbarian -> RE: Women are...stupid and bossy and men listen? (7/13/2007 9:08:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

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ORIGINAL: akbarbarian

One is married and has kids, but keeps to himself pretty much outside of family and work, and the other is single.



Would you agree that men with high IQ's are more accepted than female geniuses?

I have no idea.  While others were forming their ideas of social norms, I was the one reading the more advanced material off in the corner.  Me personally, I'm all into geniuses of any flavor, Man, Woman, Elephant, or Dog.  That skateboarding dog for example, wow!  Cool video.



akbarbarian -> RE: Women are...stupid and bossy and men listen? (7/13/2007 9:10:40 PM)

Oh yeah, and I just saw your sig   "That which is unconquered is appealing and that which is totally conquered loses its fascination."

No way, uh uh, bring the conqured, oh yeah, mm hmm *does a dance*



BitaTruble -> Do SAT's measure intelligence or aptitude? (7/13/2007 9:18:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: akbarbarian
But does this strike anyone else as a particularly bad combination when you look at both these reports?


No. The two studies done don't relate to one another in any way. If you combine apples and oranges, you're not going to get a very good pumpkin pie. Know what I mean?

The SAT's are a measure of scholastic aptitude and not cognitive ability and certainly not genetic cognitive ability. Basically, doing well on an SAT means that you're good at taking SAT's. The study encompassed 100K 17-18 year olds. (I can't help but think of those as 'kids' not men and women, but, you know, whatever.)  The other study was conducted with 72 married Iowa couples, average age 33, average length of marriage, 7 years. I don't see any correlation at all between the two other than the fact they both involved men and women. Perhaps you can point out why you think they are relevant to one another?

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Women are 3.6-4 points lower on IQ scores, recent tests show brain size when adjusted for body weight is actually smaller not larger, and men tend to yield to their judgement.  4 points isn't a huge difference, but I wonder what the future will hold for our species just the same.



We're actually using more of our potential and getting smarter as time goes by, not dumber. What, exactly, are you wondering about for the future of the species? That's a serious question by the way and I assume that you started the thread to generate dialogue, so, dude, let's talk.

Celeste




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