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RE: I have a theory... - 7/17/2007 1:19:14 PM   
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For the most part, i agree with what you wrote here.  More years doesn't necessarily equal more experience, but it can, if someone continues to do something repeatedly over the years.  For example, my mother loved to sail and she had a lot more experience at sailing when she was 60 than she did when she was 30, because she had sailed a lot more during those 30 years than she had in the previous 30 years. 
 
More experience equals more experience.  Doing something many times over is the only way to get more experience at it.  It's a fact that, if you do something many times, for many years, you are going to be more experienced at it.  That doesn't mean you are necessarily going to be any better at it, but more experienced, just the same.  Someone young can be much more experienced at something, than someone older, if they have done it more times than the older person.  For example, i was a lot more experienced at swallowing cum and pee by the time i was 25 than many women are by the time they are 75, because i had done both, repeatedly and frequently for several years, by then, and many women, who were much older than me, had never done either, even one time.  That made me more experienced in those activities than many older women.
 
Experience, alone, isn't necessarily going to make you any better at something, either, but it does give you the opportunity to find out what you like and what you don't like.  You can then get more experience with the things you like.  Experience can also give you the opportunity to develop your own style and to become more comfortable and confident at what you do.  But, if you do something over and over and you do it poorly and always do it the same, you are always going to do it poorly, no matter how much experience you have.  For example, i love to dance and i dance every chance i get, usually several times a day, even when i am just cleaning the house.  i have always loved to dance and i have always been very poor at it.  i dance the same way now as i did 30 years ago and i was a poor dancer then and i am a poor dancer still, even with all my years of experience, but i enjoy it, just the same, and i have my own style and i am comfortable with my dancing.
 
The main difference between how i do things now, with years of experience, as compared to how i did things when i was much younger, is that i do them, not really any better, but with more ease and self-confidence.  i am not filled with the anxiety i had 30 years ago.  i'm not all tense and worried that i am going to look stupid when i dance (because i know i look stupid when i dance and i accept that and feel okay about it and just enjoy it) and i'm not tense and worried when i give a blow job, now, like i usually was when i was a lot younger.  That's not because i am more experienced and, therefor, any better at it now, but because i am more comfortable and confident in giving a blow job, now, than i was when i was younger.  i used to think that i had to give a"perfect" blow job and, if i did anything less than perfect, i would be rejected.  That was due to my own feelings of insecurity then.  i am much more secure in myself now.  i know that there is no such thing as a perfect blow job and that every blow job is a perfect blow job, even if there is no ejaculation with it.
 
i think the "flippant mentality of youth", that you mentioned, is really just a defense for being insecure.  And, i believe you are right, that being secure about yourself, who you are and what you do, is something that does come from age and maturity or, at least, it should.  Although, again, there are some who are very mature and self-assured at a younger age.  Always the exceptions.
 
For me, age, not experience, has brought maturity, a mature way of looking at myself and other people and at the world and accepting myself and believing in myself.  Age and maturity have brought me less insecurity, less anxiety, more confidence and a feeling of comfort about myself and my sexuality and my value as a person.  That acceptance and confidence in myself has allowed me to do what i do (which is the same stuff i was doing when i was 18), not necessarily better, but with a grace and ease that i didn't have when i was a nervous and insecure 20 year old.  So, even if i don't do it any better, i definately enjoy doing it a lot more now.
 
For what it's worth, these are my personal views on this.
 
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More years behind you does not equal more experience. Neither does being younger equal less experience. In my opinion, as a beginner, I would not choose a Dom of my own age.

My personal reasons against having a younger Dom are nothing to do with their experience in the BDSM world. It is to do with the flippant mentality of youth. I want someone who knows what he wants and has the belief in his own convictions (and as such somone whos convictions I can believe in) to take on the repsonsibility of ownership over another person. Something which I believe comes with age as you gain more security in yourself and in your life.

Perhaps these things don't come with age, but if not the older people I know are putting on a damn good show.

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RE: I have a theory... - 7/17/2007 3:28:49 PM   
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I think you are completely right about age bringing security. To do something many times over brings you security and confidence and, if we are talking about blowjobs here, I reckon your confidence whoever is recieving more pleasure, even if the technique has not greatly varied from the very first attempt. Although mine has haha what memories. 

Okay that was a little bit pointless me posting that, just wanted to agree with you really

Little question...this pee swallowing thing...is it safe?

pr x

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RE: I have a theory... - 7/17/2007 3:53:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: palerose
Little question...this pee swallowing thing...is it safe?

pr x



i have never had any ill effects from drinking my Master's pee.  i wouldn't do it for just anybody, but neither would i give a blow job to just anybody.  i never drink my Master's pee when He is not feeling well or when He is using certain prescriptions, just because neither of Uus wants to take any chance of me getting sick from it.  From my experience, which has been 30 years worth, pee drinking is just as safe as cum drinking is.
 
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RE: I have a theory... - 7/17/2007 4:46:18 PM   
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Urine is at least as safe as semen and may even be more so but I am not sure.


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RE: I have a theory... - 7/17/2007 6:05:47 PM   
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Little question...this pee swallowing thing...is it safe?

pr x


If it wasn't, I'd have left a string of dead women behind me...

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RE: I have a theory... - 7/17/2007 6:30:25 PM   
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I'd have left a string of dead women behind me...


Clearly punching them to death just wasnt enough

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RE: I have a theory... - 7/17/2007 6:30:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Faramir

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ORIGINAL: palerose
Little question...this pee swallowing thing...is it safe?

pr x


If it wasn't, I'd have left a string of dead women behind me...


ROTFLMAO!!

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RE: I have a theory... - 7/17/2007 8:51:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

quote:

ORIGINAL: Faramir

I'd have left a string of dead women behind me...


Clearly punching them to death just wasnt enough


Obviously, you'ev never seen my combo moves.  Of course, all who have, died with a belly full of piss, so you know...

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RE: I have a theory... - 7/17/2007 9:00:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Faramir
Obviously, you'ev never seen my combo moves.  Of course, all who have, died with a belly full of piss, so you know...


When Faramir takes a bath, he doesn't get wet; the water gets Faramired.

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RE: I have a theory... - 7/17/2007 9:10:33 PM   
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This is a vanilla site with a lot more crud thrown into the mix....There is nothing exceptional about it...the more I contemplate the exchange dynamic the more I realize that it is largely bullshit...What I mean by that is I take little that is not freely given....My taking charge is actually what she desires. We use terms like hard limits while others speak of deal breakers or crossing the line.

If you meet a sub who digs the D/s relationship and you have established a connection the rest is just the same as any other relationship. If you get from the relationship what makes you happy we are all cool as the other side of the pillow.

Doms are nothing special...They are just people who have come to terms with the way they like to get things done.
Just as subs have...There is actually little difference between the two.



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RE: I have a theory... - 7/17/2007 10:52:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Faramir

quote:

ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

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ORIGINAL: Faramir

I'd have left a string of dead women behind me...


Clearly punching them to death just wasnt enough


Obviously, you'ev never seen my combo moves.  Of course, all who have, died with a belly full of piss, so you know...


Hello Faramir. Last time I asked you if you punched them strung up and free swinging or double ended. Now I am getting this "upside down" image with these combo moves! I just wanted to say, I'm in awe! You not bad, you baddest! RL.

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RE: I have a theory... - 7/18/2007 4:42:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Rover

It's a shame you didn't recognize that I was sincerely discussing the issue. 

Look at it this way, I recognise what you're on about now - we have a misunderstanding.

quote:

Focus50:
 in theory a 20yo sub need only do as she is told by her dom, with arguably the only real decision she need make is deciding who that dom is. 
quote:

Rover:
Now that may work in the theoretical world, but in the practical world we call that a "sack of 'taters".

But I'll lay the cause of it with you; a person is not an inanimate "that", at least not in a mature or respectful manner.  Ergo, my interpretation of your post was that the "sack of 'taters" analogy was a reference to the entire passage you quoted - an attack on me.

So I'll accept you weren't taking a swing at me afterall but hardly that I'm over sensitive; just that you were too vague, be it by design or accident. 
 
As for "discussing" it further, all I can say is that that isn't the topic as I was merely responding to a comment from MadRabbit and that I don't particularly care for your referring to the OP as a sack of anything.  Surely this is not how you community buffs would welcome a r/l newbie?  Bear in mind, nothing would surprise me these days....
 
Rover, for whatever went down between us back in "References", at least it was predominantly on topic.  And acknowledge it or not, I wasn't the one contradicting myself and back pedalling at the end, as evidenced by your final post at me - that you found no useful purpose discussing anything with me!  Surely I haven't misunderstood that, too?
 
If you're just gonna puff and prance with childish word games and cliches, save it for the kiddies.  If it's views on a common topic, I'll do that with anyone; even someone already on public record saying he'd had enough of me. 
 
Focus.

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RE: I have a theory... - 7/18/2007 5:12:39 AM   
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Ok, this is improvement (of a sort).  You spent six lines discussing the topic, and six lines ragging on me.  I really don't deserve the attention, nor do I desire to be that important in your life.

quote:

 
As for "discussing" it further, all I can say is that that isn't the topic as I was merely responding to a comment from MadRabbit and that I don't particularly care for your referring to the OP as a sack of anything. 


Actually, I didn't refer to the OP at all.  I was responding to you when you said this:

quote:

 
Focus50:
 in theory a 20yo sub need only do as she is told by her dom, with arguably the only real decision she need make is deciding who that dom is. 


The person you described *is* an inanimate object, just like a sack of taters (that's called an analogy).  And that's why your inference is theoretical, yet not practical nor realistic.  So when you complain that...

quote:

 
a person is not an inanimate "that", at least not in a mature or respectful manner.


... I was expressing the very same sentiment, without the meaningless references to maturity or respect.
 
Bottom line is, evidently, that we both agree that neither sacks of taters nor submissives (of any age) that only do as they are told and make no decisions of their own are real people engaged in real lives, BDSM, vanilla or otherwise. 
 
I know that your dislike of me will tempt you to disagree, particularly because it will give you another opportunity to vent.  By all means, have at it.  You're cute (and entertaining) when you get all worked up.  :)
 
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RE: I have a theory... - 7/18/2007 7:48:57 AM   
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If you're just gonna puff and prance


Rover, you are so cute when you prance.




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RE: I have a theory... - 7/18/2007 12:14:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

quote:

If you're just gonna puff and prance


Rover, you are so cute when you prance.





Cripes, it makes me sound like one of Santa's reindeer.
 
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RE: I have a theory... - 7/18/2007 12:47:34 PM   
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When Faramir takes a bath, he doesn't get wet; the water gets Faramired.

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Oh, that was good--I was going to round-house kick the sun into a swollen red-giant state, but I'm in such a good humor now I'll hold off.




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RE: I have a theory... - 7/18/2007 1:02:12 PM   
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Focus,

I am not sure how you intend your recent posts to sound but I hear them as "I am going to try and have a more civil discussion with you idiots."  I hope I am simply reading them wrong but that is most definitely how I hear them.

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RE: I have a theory... - 7/18/2007 10:12:32 PM   
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Of course Americans didn't understand that in Vietnam and they don't now in Iraq so I'll make some allowances for your ignorance this time....


Hello Focus50. Uhhh... Australia was in Vietnam. Sent troups and everything... and I'm affraid they were pro US on the Irak thingie. I think you should not base any alleged "ignorance" on the part of our American friends on government "policy" of the past, nor the present.

Right now, you are the Aussie "pot" that is calling the American "kettle" black, by using this example. You may get a fast one past the Americans, but you should remember that you have people from the UK, Canada and other countries that have their political history straight. All in good fun, mate! Eh? RL.




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RE: I have a theory... - 7/19/2007 1:14:07 AM   
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You may get a fast one past the Americans, but you should remember that you have people from the UK, Canada and other countries that have their political history straight.


LOL! Ironic and funny, and yet true.

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RE: I have a theory... - 7/20/2007 3:32:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: robertolapiedra

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Of course Americans didn't understand that in Vietnam and they don't now in Iraq so I'll make some allowances for your ignorance this time....


Hello Focus50. Uhhh... Australia was in Vietnam. Sent troups and everything... and I'm affraid they were pro US on the Irak thingie. I think you should not base any alleged "ignorance" on the part of our American friends on government "policy" of the past, nor the present.

Right now, you are the Aussie "pot" that is calling the American "kettle" black, by using this example. You may get a fast one past the Americans, but you should remember that you have people from the UK, Canada and other countries that have their political history straight. All in good fun, mate! Eh? RL.

Yes, you're probably correct - it was Oz who invaded Vietnam and Iraq and "asked" you Americans to tag along so as to give credence to the illusion of a combined and global effort.  If we hadn't invaded, past and present history would now record things differently....
 
Oz has a history of getting sucked into other people's battles, notably UK and US.  We seem to be learning (slowwwwwly) as our forces in Iraq are more a token offering - less than 2,000 and thus far only one death (I think) from an accident.
 
Focus.

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