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Submissives Seducing Dominants - 7/17/2007 5:00:05 PM   
chiaThePet


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Status: offline 		Do you? Have you? Would you? Could you? Should you?

Given that a fair share of M/s, D/s relationships do in fact include a sexual connect,
what are your thoughts and/or experiences related to the subject? Does it or
doesn't it shift the Authority Dynamic when a submissive possesses the knowledge
and ability to sexually seduce a Dominant? Can such be used for an Authority
reversal with the submissive becoming the aggressive purveyor to the pleasures
of the flesh, controlling the pace, allowance, and intensity? Thoughts? Experience?

chia* (the pet) 

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RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants - 7/17/2007 5:01:42 PM   
Aileen68


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Status: offline 		It happens all of the time.  It's called flirting.

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RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants - 7/17/2007 5:08:37 PM   
angelslave77


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Status: offline 		When I am on my game, I tease my Dom mercilessly, I know what buttons to press to get him all turned on, both when we are together and when we are long distance.

Sometimes it works to my advantage sometimes it gets me in a whole mess of trouble. But I would think it is part of human nature

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RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants - 7/17/2007 5:11:48 PM   
chiaThePet


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ORIGINAL: Aileen68

It happens all of the time.  It's called flirting.


No, no Aileen68, beyond the flirt, beyond the come hither gaze, beyond the
cleavage squeeze, beyond the batting of the eye.

You have Him or Her naked and exposed, and You know how to make that
flesh quiver and tremble. How does "that" make you feel? Where does that
feeling lead your mind and body?

chia* (the pet)  

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RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants - 7/17/2007 5:32:14 PM   
SimplyMichael


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Status: offline 		Why on earth WOULDN'T I want her to make me feel that way?  Sure beats having to think of some other chick to get hard!

Oh, and my woman came after me and frankly, I love that!

Edited to correct Would to wouldn't!

< Message edited by SimplyMichael -- 7/17/2007 5:33:11 PM >

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RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants - 7/17/2007 5:46:42 PM   
chiaThePet


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quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

Why on earth WOULDN'T I want her to make me feel that way?  Sure beats having to think of some other chick to get hard!

Oh, and my woman came after me and frankly, I love that!

Edited to correct Would to wouldn't!


SimplyMichael, well hopefully You would be enjoying such, wouldn't be much
of a seduction if You weren't. So then, are You offering that You are comfortable
with the Dynamic of control becoming the submissives as long as You aren't
pressed to "think of another chick to get hard"?

chia* (the pet)

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RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants - 7/17/2007 6:10:48 PM   
ocilla


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Status: offline 		Great Q chia - hope some of the usual yummy boy subs chime in with their thoughts.  As for me...well....as long as I get pleasured thoroughly I will go there...besides I can't imgine not being able to turn the tables the moment I chose.  Hmmm love this kind of thread that makes me think.

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RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants - 7/17/2007 6:14:32 PM   
Lordandmaster


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Status: offline 		Ummm...I was actually with you till you got to this part.  I have absolutely no objection to being seduced by a sub, but my flesh doesn't exactly "quiver and tremble" when I'm naked.  My typical response is more like "get boner, tie up sub, go to work."

quote:

ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

You have Him or Her naked and exposed, and You know how to make that
flesh quiver and tremble. How does "that" make you feel? Where does that
feeling lead your mind and body?

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RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants - 7/17/2007 6:23:01 PM   
chiaThePet


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quote:

ORIGINAL: ocilla

Great Q chia - hope some of the usual yummy boy subs chime in with their thoughts.  As for me...well....as long as I get pleasured thoroughly I will go there...besides I can't imgine not being able to turn the tables the moment I chose.  Hmmm love this kind of thread that makes me think.


Dear Ocilla,

Thank You Ma'am, my queries come following a recent experience where i felt
the shift of control swing to me and i took advantage of the situation, yet i do
not find complete satisfaction in possessing that authority now that the afterglow
has subsided. i sincerely wish to hear the views of other submissives whom can
recognize themselves in the scenerio. Thank You again.

chia* (the pet) 

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RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants - 7/17/2007 6:35:56 PM   
losttreasure


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quote:

ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

Do you? Have you? Would you? Could you? Should you?


Yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes!

quote:

ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

Does it or doesn't it shift the Authority Dynamic when a submissive possesses the knowledge and ability to sexually seduce a Dominant?


For me, not in the least.  It is an integral part of our relationship in that he sought a woman who has the knowledge and ability, and would submit them to him for his use.  It is my job to please and to pleasure him.

quote:

ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

Can such be used for an Authority reversal with the submissive becoming the aggressive purveyor to the pleasures of the flesh, controlling the pace, allowance, and intensity?


I'd say that the real risk of that happening would be if the dominant was incapable of maintaining control.... not of the submissive, but of his or herself. 

If FirmhandKY were weak and allowed more than his physical pleasure to manipulated by my "feminine wiles", then there might be a danger of authority being transferred to me.

But I can't see that happening. 

quote:

ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

You have Him or Her naked and exposed, and You know how to make that
flesh quiver and tremble. How does "that" make you feel? Where does that
feeling lead your mind and body?


It gives me a tremendous sense of joy and awe at being able to give him such pleasure.  That feeling serves to deepen my submission to him... as well as arouse me.

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RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants - 7/17/2007 6:38:27 PM   
chiaThePet


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Ummm...I was actually with you till you got to this part.  I have absolutely no objection to being seduced by a sub, but my flesh doesn't exactly "quiver and tremble" when I'm naked.  My typical response is more like "get boner, tie up sub, go to work."

quote:

ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

You have Him or Her naked and exposed, and You know how to make that
flesh quiver and tremble. How does "that" make you feel? Where does that
feeling lead your mind and body?



Oh come now L&M, we've all seen how those ears "shake" "rattle" and "roll"
when You big fellas are all happy and content.

Really girls, you're not doing your L&M proud here, let's get those limbs quivering
and trembling, i know you can do it!

"Boner"? OMG, i had such a flashback! Yeah, "boners" and Three Dog Night,
those were the days!

chia* (the pet) 

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RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants - 7/17/2007 6:44:22 PM   
losttreasure


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Ummm...I was actually with you till you got to this part.  I have absolutely no objection to being seduced by a sub, but my flesh doesn't exactly "quiver and tremble" when I'm naked.  My typical response is more like "get boner, tie up sub, go to work."


Have you never allowed a woman just to pleasure you?  Laid back and enjoyed the sensations of being fondled and stroked, caressed and kissed, tickled and teased?  Let her trail her fingertips lightly over your skin... felt her warm breath gently blow the hair on your chest?

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RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants - 7/17/2007 6:46:32 PM   
chiaThePet


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Status: offline 		Dear losttreasure,

Thanks for chiming in.

{If FirmhandKY were weak and allowed more than his physical pleasure to manipulated by my "feminine wiles", then there might be a danger of authority being transferred to me.

But I can't see that happening.  }

Got cha!  

chia* (the pet)



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RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants - 7/17/2007 7:06:20 PM   
losttreasure


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quote:

ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

Got cha!


lol...  No, he does.  He has me wrapped nicely around his finger, too.  He just likes my fingers wrapped nicely around him.  

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RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants - 7/17/2007 7:17:34 PM   
BossyShoeBitch


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quote:

ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

Do you? Have you? Would you? Could you? Should you?

Given that a fair share of M/s, D/s relationships do in fact include a sexual connect,
what are your thoughts and/or experiences related to the subject? Does it or
doesn't it shift the Authority Dynamic when a submissive possesses the knowledge
and ability to sexually seduce a Dominant?
According to Webster's online dictionary:  seduction is defined as:
: to carry out the physical seduction of : entice to sexual intercourse.
 
So assuming your post refers to male Dominants and female submissives, sometimes all a girl has to do is get naked and the male is "enticed to sexual intercourse".  I don't really understand  why you might think the authority dynamic comes into play when it comes to seduction.  A Dom is a Dom because of what's between his ears, not what's between his legs, yes?
So following this line of thinking, if it is the Dom's wish to do so, then he will fuck her, if it is not his wish, he won't.  I would think that any Dom worth his salt isn't going to be able to be led around by his dick.  Wouldn't you agree?

Can such be used for an Authority reversal Maybe in some instances it could, yes.  There are very few absolutes in this world.  But in general, the answer is no.  Why would it have to be?
with the submissive becoming the aggressive purveyor to the pleasures of the flesh, controlling the pace, allowance, and intensity? 
Sometimes great sex is just great sex.  Can't this just be the case?

-I'm still looking for the punchline to this thread Chia, it must be here somewhere....

chia* (the pet) 



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RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants - 7/17/2007 7:33:07 PM   
BossyShoeBitch


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quote:

ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

quote:

ORIGINAL: ocilla

Great Q chia - hope some of the usual yummy boy subs chime in with their thoughts.  As for me...well....as long as I get pleasured thoroughly I will go there...besides I can't imgine not being able to turn the tables the moment I chose.  Hmmm love this kind of thread that makes me think.


Dear Ocilla,

Thank You Ma'am, my queries come following a recent experience where i felt
the shift of control swing to me and i took advantage of the situation, yet i do
not find complete satisfaction in possessing that authority now that the afterglow
has subsided. i sincerely wish to hear the views of other submissives whom can
recognize themselves in the scenerio. Thank You again.

chia* (the pet) 

oops.  ok so my earlier post stated that I was assuming you were talking about Doms and female subs.  If I am to be completely honest, I think that when you are talking about Dommes and male subs, there is more of a potential for an authority shift.  It's very interesting how the whole thought process changes when one switches the genders around..
I'd like to hear more details about your mindset during the experience as compared to your mindset afterwards..

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A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.

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RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants - 7/17/2007 7:44:19 PM   
chiaThePet


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quote:

ORIGINAL: BossyShoeBitch

quote:

ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

Do you? Have you? Would you? Could you? Should you?

Given that a fair share of M/s, D/s relationships do in fact include a sexual connect,
what are your thoughts and/or experiences related to the subject? Does it or
doesn't it shift the Authority Dynamic when a submissive possesses the knowledge
and ability to sexually seduce a Dominant?
According to Webster's online dictionary:  seduction is defined as:
: to carry out the physical seduction of : entice to sexual intercourse.
 
So assuming your post refers to male Dominants and female submissives, sometimes all a girl has to do is get naked and the male is "enticed to sexual intercourse".  I don't really understand  why you might think the authority dynamic comes into play when it comes to seduction.  A Dom is a Dom because of what's between his ears, not what's between his legs, yes?
So following this line of thinking, if it is the Dom's wish to do so, then he will fuck her, if it is not his wish, he won't.  I would think that any Dom worth his salt isn't going to be able to be led around by his dick.  Wouldn't you agree?

Can such be used for an Authority reversal Maybe in some instances it could, yes.  There are very few absolutes in this world.  But in general, the answer is no.  Why would it have to be?
with the submissive becoming the aggressive purveyor to the pleasures of the flesh, controlling the pace, allowance, and intensity? 
Sometimes great sex is just great sex.  Can't this just be the case?

-I'm still looking for the punchline to this thread Chia, it must be here somewhere....

chia* (the pet) 




Oh come now BSBitch, (punchline enough for you?) Kidding, really.

i wasn't seeking someone to bring out the "dick" tionary for those oh so literal
terms. The post refers to submissives (pick a gender) seducing their Dominant,
(pick a gender) Arrrrrrg, read my questions, i'm not agreeing or disagreeing
with the swing of control here, just aware that it happens and wanted to get
the views of others who have experienced such. Sure one would question the
ability of a Dominant being "led around by His dick", but i am speaking of
those specific instances when a submissive has the opportunity to control
the moment at "hand". Great sex is great sex yes, but this is more about the
exchange of control in relation to sexual acts occuring, which i speak of.

Why would it have to be? i'm not saying it "has" to be, i'm seeking views from
those who know it happens and if they take advantage of the situation, and how
they feel about it. As You say, there are no absolutes, so tell me if You have ever
felt that a submissive was gaining control in a sexual situation, if a sexual situation
is allowed by You of a submissive. This would add to satisfy my query beyond
the tongue and cheek standard reply. Thanks for the input.

chia* (the pet)

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You can stick me in the corner, but I'll probably just end up coloring on the walls.

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RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants - 7/17/2007 7:48:54 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Status: offline 		In a sense my style of courtship is very much like a carnivorous plant.  I sit, planted, patiently, showing- and wait for them to come to me, to taste me, to tell me how much they want me.

Then I really enjoy showing them just what exactly it is that they've signed up for.

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RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants - 7/17/2007 7:54:32 PM   
chiaThePet


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

In a sense my style of courtship is very much like a carnivorous plant.  I sit, planted, patiently, showing- and wait for them to come to me, to taste me, to tell me how much they want me.

Then I really enjoy showing them just what exactly it is that they've signed up for.


i am soooooooooo smitten (blushes)

chia* (the pet) 

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RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants - 7/17/2007 8:02:37 PM   
Lordandmaster


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Status: offline 		Yeah, that sounds good.

But I just had a little powwow about this and was told that I do more toe-curling than quivering and trembling.

Maybe we should do a thread: "How has Lam come in your presence?"

quote:

ORIGINAL: losttreasure

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Ummm...I was actually with you till you got to this part.  I have absolutely no objection to being seduced by a sub, but my flesh doesn't exactly "quiver and tremble" when I'm naked.  My typical response is more like "get boner, tie up sub, go to work."


Have you never allowed a woman just to pleasure you?  Laid back and enjoyed the sensations of being fondled and stroked, caressed and kissed, tickled and teased?  Let her trail her fingertips lightly over your skin... felt her warm breath gently blow the hair on your chest?


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