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MisPandora -> RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants (7/18/2007 6:23:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: chiaThePet
*cut sortid details of M/m sex involving leather and boots*
chia* (the pet)

*fanning self* Wow, did it get hot in here or what????




camille65 -> RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants (7/18/2007 6:23:42 AM)

chia thank you. That post (#58) clarified that which I didn't understand.
[:)]




chiaThePet -> RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants (7/18/2007 6:33:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: camille65

Thinking about this a bit more I realised that if I didn't have the *power* to seduce him then wouldn't that mean that the sexual attraction would be gone?
If I'm in my corset, my hair spilling over my shoulders & he isn't interested then I doubt I would want to be with him.

I used the word 'power' because that is how seduction is being framed within this thread.


i know, "power" is one of those iffy words here at the lovely collarme hive.
Though i think we all realize we have the "power" to seduce, what i speak
of here is the possibility of shift of control during and after seduction comes
into play. Tis a fine line it seems.

Also, you've probably given Domiguy a good case of morningwood with
your description of being in your corset with your hair spilling over!

Thanks camille65 for coming on board this morn.

chia* (the pet)




chiaThePet -> RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants (7/18/2007 6:41:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tricia

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Do you? Have you? Could you? Would you?


No, never.




tricia, might you elaborate on your feelings or reasons of why you don't or
wouldn't, it would be good to hear your perspective. Thanks

chia* (the pet) 




chiaThePet -> RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants (7/18/2007 6:45:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SlND3R3LLA

I love being able to seduce, I wouldn't have it any other way.  I love to watch as he gets turned on, his breath changes, his voice changes..mmmmm.  There is such an erotic power involved in making him want me sexually.  It doesn't mess up our dynamic one bit.  He loves that I want him, and that I want sex with him.  He loves that I feel free enough to go after it from him without being worried I am doing wrong, or that I will look dumb. 
 
I admit I have always done this with men.  I have always enjoyed making them want me.  It is not only a turn on for them, but for me in return.  Once I get them where they can't take it anymore, I am usually there myself.  It just puts me in a sexier frame of mind, and my body responds to that.
 
Sin


Why do i get the feeling that great sexual things are happening all around this
glorious little globe of ours this morning?! Thank you for sharing Sin (love that)

chia* (the pet)




chiaThePet -> RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants (7/18/2007 6:48:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MisPandora

quote:

ORIGINAL: chiaThePet
*cut sortid details of M/m sex involving leather and boots*
chia* (the pet)

*fanning self* Wow, did it get hot in here or what????


Ah yes MisPandora, the smell of leather in the morning, "almost" better than
coffee. (i need my caffeine fix or i simply can't seduce so early) Throw in a
great pair of commanding boots and i'm like melting butter. (hmmm, hotter?)

chia* (the pet)




littleone35 -> RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants (7/18/2007 7:43:09 AM)

In my case i love seducing my Master.  I know what he likes and i love to get him aroused  not that he shakes and quivers (usually i end upo being the one to do that).  As for whio is in charge even if i an the seducer Master is always in charge, because he is allowing me to seduce him.  If he did not want me to do so he could stop me, usually he does not though.  So do i seduce my Master? YES!

Matt's littleone




AquaticSub -> RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants (7/18/2007 9:52:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

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ORIGINAL: chiaThePet


So you yourself never feel an exchange of control while seducing your
Dominant, fair enough, i hear you, thanks for sharing.

chia* (the pet) 


Since all he has to do is say "no" and I stop, it's kinda hard to feel in control. [:)]


Then you are fortunate in having found a sincere Dominant, even if he says no
sometimes. Enjoy! (have you tried the boot thing though?) 

chia* (the pet) 


I would never consider beating my beloved owner over the head with a boot when frustrated... oh wait did you mean something else? [:D]




Wildfleurs -> RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants (7/18/2007 10:22:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Ummm...I was actually with you till you got to this part.  I have absolutely no objection to being seduced by a sub, but my flesh doesn't exactly "quiver and tremble" when I'm naked.  My typical response is more like "get boner, tie up sub, go to work."



You stole the words out of my mouth!

Personally I suck at seduction, my main mode of seduction for my owner is getting naked, and at my most agressive I'll go up to him naked and touch him on the back or straddle him (I have standing permission to do those things).  But then if he's interested its pretty much him doing the above.  It'd be pretty bizzare and funny to see him quivver or tremble.

C~




Politesub53 -> RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants (7/18/2007 10:35:04 AM)

Chia, what a delightful question. Yes, guilty as charged.

i was allowed to nibble on Her earlobe a fraction too long and heard a soft sigh. i smiled gently and carried on with plan A. Soon enough i was in control, or at least felt i was, the magic moment occured when She gazed quizically wondering why i hestitated. i felt myself utter those three immortal words " beg me now "  She quirked a sexy brow and replied " Grrrrrrrrrr " Well i knew that was what She said, although i guessed "Grrrrrrrrr" was Russian for " Please i`m begging you "

Later, as i bathed in the afterglow while i stood facing the corner, She looked at me and said " you can stay like that until you wipe that bloody smug grin off your face."

Ah happy memories [;)]




slaverosebeauty -> RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants (7/18/2007 11:24:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

Nice slaverosebeauty, i envy your success, in a good way though.
Good take on things, and i especially like your pointing out that
seduction can be other than a physical endeavor, so important
in the M/s, D/s relationships we seek. Thank You.

chia* (the pet)


Thank you chia.
 
The brain is the largest sex organ we have, so I keep that stimulated and with LDR, its more so.
 
Actually last night, as I wrote my post on here, MJ was working and He was buisy, yet, still kept the IM window up; about 10:30, I put '{wraps around around MJ.. kisses Him on the neck}.. i'm going to go to bed and read, call my cell if You want me..' a few other parts of our conversation were alogn the same lines, when we talked I could tell I was getting to Him {giggles}, He didn't complain, He said it just sucked that we couldn't cuddle together at that moment. We did, emoitonally. [:D] 




chiaThePet -> RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants (7/18/2007 11:45:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Wildfleurs

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Ummm...I was actually with you till you got to this part.  I have absolutely no objection to being seduced by a sub, but my flesh doesn't exactly "quiver and tremble" when I'm naked.  My typical response is more like "get boner, tie up sub, go to work."



You stole the words out of my mouth!

Personally I suck at seduction, my main mode of seduction for my owner is getting naked, and at my most agressive I'll go up to him naked and touch him on the back or straddle him (I have standing permission to do those things).  But then if he's interested its pretty much him doing the above.  It'd be pretty bizzare and funny to see him quivver or tremble.

C~


Wildfleurs, what you describe here sounds like seduction to me, and "sucking"
at seduction is a whole nother thread :-)

Work on that quiver thing though, i think rather than seeing it as bizzare, you
might just be filled with subtle satisfaction, and possibly a teensy weensy bit
of control at having discovered one of his "weak" spots. Wink.

chia* (the pet) 




chiaThePet -> RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants (7/18/2007 11:53:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Chia, what a delightful question. Yes, guilty as charged.

i was allowed to nibble on Her earlobe a fraction too long and heard a soft sigh. i smiled gently and carried on with plan A. Soon enough i was in control, or at least felt i was, the magic moment occured when She gazed quizically wondering why i hestitated. i felt myself utter those three immortal words " beg me now "  She quirked a sexy brow and replied " Grrrrrrrrrr " Well i knew that was what She said, although i guessed "Grrrrrrrrr" was Russian for " Please i`m begging you "

Later, as i bathed in the afterglow while i stood facing the corner, She looked at me and said " you can stay like that until you wipe that bloody smug grin off your face."

Ah happy memories [;)]


Yes PS, while confidence can serve the moment well, overconfidence can serve
to have the moment thrust back in our face, rubbing that smirk into oblivion.

And next time you get put in the corner, i have some crayons you can borrow.

"Hey boy, what are you doing over there?"

"Nothin"

"I've got your nothin right here on the end of this paddle boy!" SMACK

chia* (the pet) 




Wildfleurs -> RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants (7/18/2007 11:54:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

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ORIGINAL: Wildfleurs

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Ummm...I was actually with you till you got to this part.  I have absolutely no objection to being seduced by a sub, but my flesh doesn't exactly "quiver and tremble" when I'm naked.  My typical response is more like "get boner, tie up sub, go to work."



You stole the words out of my mouth!

Personally I suck at seduction, my main mode of seduction for my owner is getting naked, and at my most agressive I'll go up to him naked and touch him on the back or straddle him (I have standing permission to do those things).  But then if he's interested its pretty much him doing the above.  It'd be pretty bizzare and funny to see him quivver or tremble.

C~


Wildfleurs, what you describe here sounds like seduction to me, and "sucking"
at seduction is a whole nother thread :-)

Work on that quiver thing though, i think rather than seeing it as bizzare, you
might just be filled with subtle satisfaction, and possibly a teensy weensy bit
of control at having discovered one of his "weak" spots. Wink.

chia* (the pet) 


Honestly, I'm happy sucking at seduction.  Given I spend almost all of my time in my bedroom naked, its not quite a purposeful seduction, in as much it seems to take pretty much that much  to garner the interest that LAM was talking about (get boner, tie her down, get to work).

I don't have an interest in discovering his weak spots and expoiting them or using them in any manner.  I'm his slave and the one thats supposed to be exploited and used :-)

C~




chiaThePet -> RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants (7/18/2007 12:00:43 PM)

Wildfleurs,

Then one should never try to fix what's not broken! Enjoy that nakedness!

chia* (the pet)




tricia -> RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants (7/18/2007 12:16:23 PM)

Sorry about the quickie – I had to go to work :)
 
I seduce my Master every day with my submission and my obedience.  I seduce him when I look up at him with my dark brown eyes and he sees the way I adore him.  Or the way a moan escapes from my lips before I even touch him or him, me. This is part of what he finds attractive in me. 
 
He makes the decisions in our relationship – even the sexual ones.  I equate ‘seducing him’ in the manner to which you speak to presuming to know what he needs or wants more than he does.  And I do see that as a transfer of authority.  A role I’m not comfortable in.
 
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i do love to seduce, i just must be careful not to let that seduction steal away the beauty of my submissive nature.


I thought this was a lovely sentiment.  Thank you.




Lordandmaster -> RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants (7/18/2007 12:55:20 PM)

Oh, like you don't already know the answer to that question...

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ORIGINAL: onmykneesforhim

I would really then have to ask "Is that great curved *trunk* of yours, also real?




chiaThePet -> RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants (7/18/2007 1:13:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tricia

Sorry about the quickie – I had to go to work :)
 
I seduce my Master every day with my submission and my obedience.  I seduce him when I look up at him with my dark brown eyes and he sees the way I adore him.  Or the way a moan escapes from my lips before I even touch him or him, me. This is part of what he finds attractive in me. 
 
He makes the decisions in our relationship – even the sexual ones.  I equate ‘seducing him’ in the manner to which you speak to presuming to know what he needs or wants more than he does.  And I do see that as a transfer of authority.  A role I’m not comfortable in.
 
quote:

i do love to seduce, i just must be careful not to let that seduction steal away the beauty of my submissive nature.


I thought this was a lovely sentiment.  Thank you.


tricia, very beautifully stated and yes, though there are moments i realize
Authority transfer has taken place, and while i think i am enjoying such
in the moment, the reality is that i find no lasting reward to savor. Thank
you for returning and sharing your wonderful thoughts.

chia* (the pet)




Celeste43 -> RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants (7/18/2007 2:33:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

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ORIGINAL: Aileen68

It happens all of the time.  It's called flirting.


No, no Aileen68, beyond the flirt, beyond the come hither gaze, beyond the
cleavage squeeze, beyond the batting of the eye.

You have Him or Her naked and exposed, and You know how to make that
flesh quiver and tremble. How does "that" make you feel? Where does that
feeling lead your mind and body?

chia* (the pet)  


He wouldn't be naked and exposed unless he wanted something sexual to happen. If he wanted to shut it down, then he would have prior to this point.

And bluntly, if he wasn't interested he wouldn't get it up.

Beyond that, I adore knowing that he finds me incredibly attractive and responds to me and he loves knowing I'm hot and horny and can't think of anything else but getting it on with him. It's a win-win situation.




hardbodysub -> RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants (7/18/2007 3:01:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BossyShoeBitch

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ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

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ORIGINAL: ocilla

Great Q chia - hope some of the usual yummy boy subs chime in with their thoughts.  As for me...well....as long as I get pleasured thoroughly I will go there...besides I can't imgine not being able to turn the tables the moment I chose.  Hmmm love this kind of thread that makes me think.


Dear Ocilla,

Thank You Ma'am, my queries come following a recent experience where i felt
the shift of control swing to me and i took advantage of the situation, yet i do
not find complete satisfaction in possessing that authority now that the afterglow
has subsided. i sincerely wish to hear the views of other submissives whom can
recognize themselves in the scenerio. Thank You again.

chia* (the pet) 

oops.  ok so my earlier post stated that I was assuming you were talking about Doms and female subs.  If I am to be completely honest, I think that when you are talking about Dommes and male subs, there is more of a potential for an authority shift.  It's very interesting how the whole thought process changes when one switches the genders around..
I'd like to hear more details about your mindset during the experience as compared to your mindset afterwards..


You've got to be kidding. You don't think there's just as much potential for a switch with a male dom and female sub? A person who can seduce another absolutely has a high degree of power in that relationship. Whether she or he chooses to exercise it, or knows how to exercise it, is another question, but the potential is definitely there.

For me, I'd go as far as to say that if a woman doesn't have the power of seduction over me, then she has virtually no power over me at all.




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