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chiaThePet -> RE: Submissives Seducing Dominants (7/18/2007 9:59:58 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Evlgryn
[8D]I have read these posts about how submissives would never use brazen, obvious and power grabbing tactics to seduce their dominants into doing something against their nature.Has anyone considered that in these power exchange couples, it might be an ineffective thing to do? If he is by nature dominant, at least a small part of him will resent it. If he is a man, it might work anyway but somewhere deep down there will be an accounting for it.
The best way to seduce a dominant is to submit!!!
Strangely this topic of seduction seems to be limited to activities of established couples. I think true seduction has it's value way before this point, at those clumsy moments when couplings are decided but nobody wants to talk about it. So I won't either.
Within, the confines of my longterm relationship with my slave, we are rarely at crosspurposes when she is looking for a little wet comfort. I value every moment spent in intimate embrace or holding a whip. She asks, she sometimes inspires, but I don't think there is any seduction needed.
This being said... I am dominant. Any time she asks for something I wasn't already thinking about, there is a knee jerk reaction against it. I hate to be told to do anything, and I don't much like being asked to do anything. What can I say, I like to call the shots. And yes this even extends to being asked to have sex; there the dirty little secret is out.
A long time ago, I told my slave that any time she wishes to submit to me sexually, she should kneel down and place my foot on the back of her neck. Is this because I want to be in a more dominant position to turn her down? Nope, not at all. It is because it rarely fails to inspire a wood in me as her dominant. A win win situation. If I was really at cross purposes with her, I would never entrust this secret to her. In a fairy tale world, this issue would be settled and she would never again ask me verbally to satisfy her needs in the middle of my favourite TV progam. But this is no fairy tale, life keeps lumbering on.
Evlgryn, yes i have read such also, but i also ponder whether or not it is because
some wish not to be brazen or obvious about admitting to power grabbing for
their own personal desires or gain. i don't think such would necessarily be an
attempt to undermine the Dominant into doing something against Their nature.
We can all be selfish and self-centered at times, and during those times we
might use seduction to expedite the fullfilment of our own agenda. Doesn't
mean we wish to reverse the balance of the scales in our favor as a constant.
Most of the responses here have been of those involved in a relationship, and
the flow is reflective of such, expectedly. i really don't see many coming on
board and admitting that they willfully manipulate their Dominant through
sexual seduction or otherwise, just wouldn't be prudent to do so. Could it be
that those in said relationships are completely satisfied with the Dynamic and
have no desire or need to feed into the seduction for any self serving reason
they would normally find no allowance for? Could be i suppose, but even in
some of the responses the "pride of the seduction" is quite evident. i simply
can't believe than none of these moments of seduction didn't for the submissive
include the full awareness that control had in fact shifted in their favor. The
Dynamic then has changed, regardless of the fact that the Dominant believes
such is occuring only of Their allowance. A shift of control is just that, one
can try and attach a cause and effect to it, but that in itself doesn't change
the fact that one has control over the other for the moment at hand. If i hold
the cards, i hold the cards, even if You handed them to me, they are now in
my possession. Yes, You can take them back, that is understood, but right
at that moment they belong to me, and i can make the most of the hand dealt
me. Of course, i have experienced that such does not always lead to satisfaction,
but sometimes temptation is served oh so sweet and resistance is sour.
Of course here, as always the spectrum runs one end to the other, from the willful
and knowing, to the teasingly tempted, from the pieces of allowance, to the
full serving allowed, from strict permission, to absolute denial. We are the rainbow
of colors here at the collarme hive, alive with diversity amidst the proper protocol.
And every now and then, little secrets slip out in the course of conversation,
and submissives like me simply add such to our little slate of seduction.
Thank You joining in, i appreciate Your sharing of views and such.
chia* (the pet)
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