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Some people seem to think that, the more they bitch about their opponents, the more attractive they become, by contrast.
Republicans really aren't doing that great of a job. Democrats, though? They make me sick to my stomach. I think a lot of people feel in a similar way. One would think this might give a third party a shot- which, we may see some improvements for them- but I doubt most people will want to do what they see as a throw-away vote. Voter apathy might increase? Or will people go to the polls in a tizzy?
The hard core right wing of the Republican party is what makes me sick to my stomach. They are much more dangerous to you and I then all of the bitchy Democrats combined.
I think that Firm in a round about way helped me address the problem...I believe that he is somewhat accurate when he talks about the 1/3 ...1/3 ....1/3.....But I think that overall the middle 1/3 is more conservative in nature...So if you have a tight election...You scare the shit out of the Nascar nation by making a big deal over gays being married...You watch the Dems fall all over themselves...And you win an election and quickly shelf the amendment that was to make a marriage strictly between a man and a woman because it was nothing that you gave a flying fuck about to begin with.....It was brilliant!!! I do believe that Republicans have to lose elections.
However, the 1/3 of remaining Reps who support Bush are not to be swayed..They are the Fox watching Rush addicts who could care less about authentic news but relish the idea that their own thoughts and beliefs are going to be spewed back to them so they don't have to think or question anything that might be contrarian to their core beliefs.
So we are down to the core believers....Per "Firmy" Who else could sit back and compliment this President on a job well done? These are the folks that believe that the economy under Clinton should be ignored but that a rising economy under Bush is cause for celebration....They believe that the President has control over the growth of the economy and that nothing is cyclical.....Unless a Dem is in charge and then any success during that time falls back upon the actions of the prior Rep Pres.
If you rest your laurels on the fact that we have not been attacked..All you have to do is look at the components of 9/11...Depending on sources it took 18 people? our borders are sieves which is evident form all of the illegal immigration...and we all realize how fragile we would be if we had a rash of ball bearing wielding suicide bombers attack our cities....Where are the cells? Where are the attacks? It is evident that to try and thwart one individual bound on self destruction is rather a daunting task within a free society....Perhaps the threat was overstated from the beginning ...But fear sells...Why hasn't the terror alert ever reached guarded (blue) or low(green)....Again, fear sells.
http://www.creativespill.com/advisory/ This is the Simpson's Terror Alert System...Rather funny.
Appointing Supreme Court Justices is by somewhat of a fluke....Again someone who would extol the job of a President based upon this happening would first off realize the appointees are clearly partisan and the President has no control over when an appointee is going to be necessary.
And whatever we have gained as not being viewed as paper tigers has been lost.....We have no goodwill...9/11 was an opportunity ....God did we fuck it up.
I do believe that my initial statement is valid....The Reps that I know are logical...They don't get their news form Fox and have a clear idea of what has transpired over the tenure of this Pres. They don't dig the man or the job that he has done.
Even Firmhand, as well as Level who twice voted for Bush, has admitted he's none to thrilled with Bush and I think it is safe to say that he is on the conservative side of things.
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Level
I can say that having voted for Bush twice, I would not do so a third time, if that scenario were possible. Of course, some of what he's done, or tried to do, is good, but overall, I'm disappointed.
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Farmhand
Ditto.
He's squandered several great opportunities, and pissed away a lot of good will needlessly.
Firm KY
So why did you say that ....
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Farmhand
Second, is the inability to believe that any other opinion can possibly hold any validity at all. If they don't agree with you, then it must be for one of four reasons:
1. They are stupid (see my above comments), or
2. They are being deceived (actually just another way of saying they are stupid), or
3. They are evil, or
4. They are mentally unbalanced.
When the remaining 1/3 of the voters are the core people...I stick to my guns here...I do believe that they are beyond reason...Meaning no matter what transpires they are going to defend this guy...I think there is a tremendous amount of validity to that statement.
I never said they were stupid, or evil, or mentally unbalanced or being deceived...they simply don't care. And by using the term "morons" has little to do with intelligence....But of choosing not to use "it" in a honest fashion when judging the tenure of this Pres......He's their guy and nothing he can do or anything that anyone can say is going to change that. I believe it is evident by the poll #'s themselves.....The End.
< Message edited by domiguy -- 7/19/2007 10:11:25 PM >
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, I like to say that I'm only conservative when I am, otherwise, not. I mean, I believe in legalizing pot and prostitution, strict gun laws, protecting the environment (which really isn't a "left" posistion, but is seen as one), universal health care, and a living wage. 
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