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RE: Racial Issue...Any Advice? - 10/7/2007 9:25:16 AM

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Send the applicants to me-I am VERY attracted to black men, I am not colorblind in anyway, have not had much rt bdsm play with a black man but would love to.

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RE: Racial Issue...Any Advice? - 10/19/2007 4:06:03 PM

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i struggled with this issue alot. Feeling guilty for not submitting to a Black Mistress or for submitting to a White Mistress, guilt about wanting to do race scenes ect. What helped and worked for me was doing what your doing here. Talking to others about it, getting there thoughts, telling Mistresses about it and having deep discussions about it. In the end i realized i was accepted and i realized it was ok for me to me. Thats the wonderful part of BDSM it is more inclusive of differences than it is exclusive. i think You will find many black subs who will want to submit to you and maybe even explore this touchy subject with you.

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RE: Racial Issue...Any Advice? - 10/19/2007 8:02:00 PM

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Another thing that may be slightly off topic - at least from the other side... Yes, the racial issue is STILL such a taboo - I cannot help it, but I find "ladies with a tan" attractive. SO be it! Not solely and exclusively, but still... and trust me, I've got in trouble for saying that. The notion being that "I'm ONLY interested in Her race and not in Her as a person", which of course is completely wrong. Apparently, it's totally main stream if a Caucasian Woman is attracted to an Afro American man - but be a white man attracted to a black Woman and we're back in the Civil War... And that is a wee bit silly, me dink... that's being TOO sensitive!

What's wrong with recognizing "racial aestetics"? I've had numerous Caucasian girl friends - now I live in Asia, and here most of the Goddesses ALSO have a tan... so it's NOT really a racist political statement. DUH... merely a fact of my attraction.

But I dare say it's a mine field! Mamamia!

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RE: Racial Issue...Any Advice? - 10/20/2007 12:01:38 PM

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I don't have an issue with anyone's skin colour. I spent a few summers in London during the time I was resident in Poland in service to a Jamaican Mistress, she was herself an just as much an individiaul Domme as anyone else.

I don't understand why people are going on about slavery. This has long since been an issue. Personally I think it's a really good thing to see more black people coming out into not just the BDSM but also the LGBT community, for it is a sign of their own sexual revolution, what we (white people) went through in the 1960's. It's happening now in the black community because these people have not only been oppressed by white people but also they have faced oppression from their own community.

Hopefully this will continue to so that we can all learn that there is only one race in society - the human race.

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RE: Racial Issue...Any Advice? - 10/20/2007 6:34:36 PM

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I understand that what you may be think you are doing is being protective of a class of people for past wrongs, but in essence, the end result is you being racist. Don't look at people as skin color. Black, white, red, yellow, pink, purple...the question is are THEY doing it for healthy reasons? If so, race is not relevant, the person is.

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RE: Racial Issue...Any Advice? - 10/21/2007 12:50:50 AM

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Milady had the same problem. I had to laugh. She has no reason to have white guilt, since she's black. Actually, the idea of being a Negro slave to a dominant white woman is a huge turn on for some black guys. One pro domme has a story of an NBA guy who actually had an orgasm just brushing her long hair while she called him racial slurs. Just take it slow. You will soon have a bunch of guys named Deandre and Tyrone picking your cotton.

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RE: Racial Issue...Any Advice? - 10/22/2007 5:09:31 PM

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I seem to have a bit of a problem, which I've avoided dealing with for a long while, but I'd like to know if anyone else has any suggestions for how to get past it.

I have a psychological boundary to playing with black subs.

Back when I dated vanilla...'lo those many years ago, I used to love dating black men. They treated me well, were respectful, etc...all the good stuff.

When I finally decided not to date 'nilla anymore, I didn't live in a place with a large black population and didn't for a number of years, so I didn't even realise this was an issue. Now that I'm in a much more diverse city, I have more opportunity to meet(and be attracted to) black men. In fact, I've been approached by a number of them in a D/s context...and turned them down.

I just can't seem to get past the historical implications of slavery. My mind just can't picture my doing horrifically evil and wonderful things to these men, no matter how hot they may be.

In my youthful Uni years, I did a lot of awareness work educating whites about their own racism and I seem to have internalized it in such a way as to block myself from being able to go there.

Has anyone dealt with this? And if so, how?

~sigh~

Slavery goes a lot further back to the Romans, does anyone remember Fonatna? Not sure of spelling, but is an amazing picture of a poor Roman girl of about 16, not sure of all details.

She was on a platform ready to be sold, and all the men could go and touch, feel group her as they pleased to see if they wanted to own her.

Re read that, it makes no scene, but I wrote it with passion! Not bad for 1am!

Regarding your question, I don’t see it as that at all, what does it matter you have done it before with a male, so why not a male with a different ethnic background? After all a male is a male!!!

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RE: Racial Issue...Any Advice? - 10/23/2007 6:07:13 AM

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I really, REALLY want to just let loose on this thread..........but I'll try not to.

Slavery was abolished in Britain over 300 years ago, 3 HUNDRED years ago! This means that any black man/woman/child has not experienced slavery (unless they have asked for it!).

I hate this 'white guilt' that means that some people feel that 'the black community' should be given hand outs left, right and centre! Not made equal, be given more than a white person in the same situation to make up for something that NO people of the last 300 years (if your British) has experienced!

WHY?

The way I'm understanding your post is you have no problem dominating a white man but you feel bad when it comes to a black man. (I'm presuming your white) I find it so much easier and enjoyable (but certainly not sexually arousing!) showing a black man exactly where he belongs, at a white womans feet! In My opinion I find it harder dominating someone who is almost on a par with me (a white man) than someone who I find so much below me. But I find in more arousing with a (gorgeous, sexy, strong and powerful) white man.

I wish I could understand this 'white guilt'. I did nothing wrong and in My opinion neither did the strong, superior white man 300 years ago!

I tried to hold it back but I couldn't and I now await the abuse thats coming my way! But I am not ashamed of My views, I'm very proud.

you can have your views I will not disrespect them, won't agree with them but won't disrespect them.

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RE: Racial Issue...Any Advice? - 10/23/2007 6:13:16 AM

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You run around to all the race threads and do the drama, and frankly I haven't seen anyone subject you to much abuse.

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RE: Racial Issue...Any Advice? - 10/23/2007 6:25:33 AM

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Erm, Excuse me?

I've posted twice on race issues, 'running around' on race issues I'd say was a bit a much.

And having the views I do USUALLY does give back a bit of abuse, but so far I've been pleasently suprised by the responses Ive got so far. Not in agreement with me but not being told I should be stoned to death either.

Please don't over do it, making out I'm running around with My Nazi flag trying to convert people because I'm not.

Twice, not exactly a rampage is it?!

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RE: Racial Issue...Any Advice? - 10/23/2007 7:28:15 PM

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I really have mixed feelings on the whole slave reparations thing. My great, great, great grandfather was a slave, so I guess I would get reparations. But his father was the plantation owner who fucked a slave woman, so I'd just have to give back the money, anyway.

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RE: Racial Issue...Any Advice? - 10/23/2007 8:38:35 PM

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I am a multi-ethnic Hispanic/Latina. My father is from Spain/Latin and my mother is from Panama/Hispanic. When I found out my German and Celtabearian roots I was shocked and felt some shame. My ancestry seems to run pretty deep and diverse. When I came to the U.S. at a very young age I found that Americans deal with "race" very differently than those in Panama and other parts of the world.

When I get approached by black slaves my blood turns cold. Not because of slavery but because while in my junior years I was taught about civil rights, modern day lynchings, discrimination and the like. With all that knowledge in me I just didn't feel right dominating with sensual cruelty. I had to step back and ask myself is this a man or beast? Does this slave have a soul/emotions? Is he consenting? Do I trust myself to do the right thing? If this was a 'nilla relationship would I be attracted to him?

I asked myself so many questions until I no longer needed to worry about his ethnicity and more about the quality of the D/s relationship. The black male sub lived up to many physical stereotypes that I look for in a sub. He looked like a cross between Will Smith and Eddy Murphy. He was the first man I had preformed "sounding" on with an 11" tool. I digress. The relationship didn't last. I had to move and he couldn't follow. Again it was about the quality of the relationship and the character of my then pet that I focused on.

The term "white guilt" gets thrown around a lot, but black Americans deal with issues about race all the time, way past slavery. Jim Crow still walks. Many Americans assume I'm "black" and tell me to go back to Africa!!?? Others can't always make up their mind what group I belong in. I get turned down by "black"/African, Asian, Latin, "White" slaves all the time because they seek "white" Mistresses/Masters.

My intent is to say that we live in a modern age where our rights get toyed with but it's better than it was 30 years ago. Whatever black/brown/tan slave ends up with you (if any) he would be lucky and safe for having an empathic, intelligent, strong and introspective Mistress above him. Your nasty habits with slaves is just icing on the cake.

*I'm working on a lack of sleep hope this helps even a little.

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