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Safest Way of Inflicting Intense Pain? - 7/22/2007 5:38:27 PM   
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As my name suggests I'm fairly new to BDSM mechanics, but my partner and I are really enjoying our exploration.  So far we've done a lot of spanking with open hand and belt, but we agree that going a bit further is intriguing. 

So my question is how to do this without danger and if possible without changing the appearance of her beautiful body, even temporarily.  Personally, I'd prefer not to redden skin, much less bruise, but I realize there may be no way of accomplishing this while also causing her the pain we crave for her.
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RE: Safest Way of Inflicting Intense Pain? - 7/22/2007 5:40:10 PM   
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burn her shoes ... the ones she keeps in the shoeboxes wrapped in tissue paper will cause more pain as they burn

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RE: Safest Way of Inflicting Intense Pain? - 7/22/2007 5:43:58 PM   
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quote:

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burn her shoes ... the ones she keeps in the shoeboxes wrapped in tissue paper will cause more pain as they burn


LOL, softness!  And if she has charge cards with Saks, Nieman Marcus, etc., burn them, too.

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RE: Safest Way of Inflicting Intense Pain? - 7/22/2007 5:49:35 PM   
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oh my! too funny....

um....it is going to be hard to take her further if you are not willing to bruise or redden her pretty skin...paddles covered with fur are nice...used carefully will not leave marks but will not inflict much pain either.

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RE: Safest Way of Inflicting Intense Pain? - 7/22/2007 5:51:57 PM   
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hmmmm, the only safe way i can think of to inflict intense pain is...get married...LOL

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RE: Safest Way of Inflicting Intense Pain? - 7/22/2007 5:52:26 PM   
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Go take a class on preasure points, they can be extreamly painfull without leaving much i the way of marks.
They also require very little effort on the Top's part a very cool lazy Top tool, although the learning process can take some real study and time to learn.

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RE: Safest Way of Inflicting Intense Pain? - 7/22/2007 5:54:16 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AspiringLord

As my name suggests I'm fairly new to BDSM mechanics, but my partner and I are really enjoying our exploration.  So far we've done a lot of spanking with open hand and belt, but we agree that going a bit further is intriguing. 

So my question is how to do this without danger and if possible without changing the appearance of her beautiful body, even temporarily.  Personally, I'd prefer not to redden skin, much less bruise, but I realize there may be no way of accomplishing this while also causing her the pain we crave for her.


a person can inflict alot of pain without reddening skin or even significant bruising with different techniques.   One techinque that is very effective for this is pressure points.  However, I would take the time to learn about them a bit.  Find someone that can teach you.

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RE: Safest Way of Inflicting Intense Pain? - 7/22/2007 5:57:29 PM   
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make her keep her hand in a bucket of very cold ice water---pain for some begins as soon as 30 seconds--(Ive gone as long as 15 min with no adverse effects)  an interesting side benefit is that the adrenaline surge caused by the pain will hard code things into long term memory.  so have her repeat a litany, obedience instructions how much she loves/is devoted to you etc

have fun and enjoy  

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RE: Safest Way of Inflicting Intense Pain? - 7/22/2007 6:00:40 PM   
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As others have said pressure points can be sooo painful and no marking. Another is pinching her nipples....for me it is OWWWWW! Also make her stand on her tippy toes for a long time, cramping pain pain in the calves and toes.


That being said, you may have to experiment a bit, never knowing if her skin is the type that marks easily or not.

i can take ALOT without a single tiny little mark...caning, even hard only leaves momentary redness that is gone before the caning is done....single tail is the only one guaranteed to mark me.

What im saying is you may be able to do alot more than you expect but may take some trial and error and willingness to mark her initially.

Best of luck to you.:)


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RE: Safest Way of Inflicting Intense Pain? - 7/22/2007 6:01:08 PM   
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Oh that cold thing works doubly if you force them from the cold water to water in the 90 to 100 degree range.
Remember the feeling on very cold days when you put water on your hands that should just be barely warm but it feels like it's boiling. LOL.

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RE: Safest Way of Inflicting Intense Pain? - 7/22/2007 6:02:18 PM   
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Pressure points are what i thought of even before reading Archer and Knight of Mists' posts.  I've seen pressure points used to give intense pain without leaving any marks. 

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RE: Safest Way of Inflicting Intense Pain? - 7/22/2007 6:05:16 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: daddyscherry

As others have said pressure points can be sooo painful and no marking. Another is pinching her nipples....for me it is OWWWWW! Also make her stand on her tippy toes for a long time, cramping pain pain in the calves and toes.




OH Yes.. flicking nipples is a very good way to inflict a shot of pain.  clothespins can also be intensely painful for many.

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RE: Safest Way of Inflicting Intense Pain? - 7/22/2007 6:06:57 PM   
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Yes, there are absolutely ways to inflict intense pain without even marking the skin.

Electricity comes readily to mind. (Provided, you know, that the bottom doesn't have a pacemaker, or other reasons not to use electricity.) A TENS unit can hurt quite a lot, is more predictable than impact play, and, for an average, healthy person, isn't dangerous unless you make a current crossing the chest (which is very easy to identify and avoid). The downside is that they can be pricey--the inexpensive ones are around $100 to start.

You can do wonderful things with clamps, especially if you consider areas other than the labia and nipples. These will mark, but not in the same way that spanking will.

You can press on the nail bed, or the bit just behind the cuticle, with your own hand, or a chopstick, or a tight clamp, and this hurts a great deal. It may temporarily mark the finger, but that's a very small area to mark. Think about other options that mark a small, discreet area but hurt a lot. Tongues are good, although the trouble with tongues is that people like to use them to talk. :) Rubber bands, and thin canes, snapped over and over again in the same, sensitive spot, can also hurt without marking large swathes of the body.

Fatigue is a delicious option. Mental bondage--in other words, requesting that the bottom holds an uncomfortable position--is lovely. Kneeling on rice or grits can work well here to add to the fatigue, and requires very little work from you. You can also tie a person into a difficult pose--think about yoga stretches or other exercises like squats to brainstorm difficult poses. Again, minimal marks (possibly rope marks, and the kneeling on grains will cause indentations in the knees, but again, not the kind of mark you get from spanking). A bonus: this may have some health benefits by adding to muscular endurance!

Needles are good, too, but you really should go to a class to learn about play piercing--or, failing that, get some medical and acupuncture knowledge, or jewelry-piercing knowledge, and stick a bunch of needles in overripe zucchini and your own thigh before you stick then in other people.


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RE: Safest Way of Inflicting Intense Pain? - 7/22/2007 6:07:57 PM   
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E-stim?  Chilli oil instead of lube? Any record by The Spice Girls? Scrub the last one, that's just too cruel.

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RE: Safest Way of Inflicting Intense Pain? - 7/22/2007 6:11:43 PM   
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First thing that came to my mind was electical play. Thats WAY past the point you are at, though. Thats a big jump from open handed spankings to electrical play. If I can think of anything inthat middle ground, I'll let you know. 

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RE: Safest Way of Inflicting Intense Pain? - 7/22/2007 6:12:30 PM   
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"situational bondage" may be an option for you

quick example: Items needed, 2 peices of rope, pair of nipple clamps (preferably the ones attached with a chain)

Bind her hands with one rope tie the nipple clamps to a eye bolt or similar in celing so that they fall about two inches above her nipples. Have her stand on tip-toes and attach the clamps to the nipples. walk away, and enjoy.

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RE: Safest Way of Inflicting Intense Pain? - 7/22/2007 6:16:21 PM   
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Thanks for all the good ideas - I'm not sure I'm ready for electricity yet, but I look forward to trying out the others and will report back.

Enjoyed the humorous responses too - thanks!

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RE: Safest Way of Inflicting Intense Pain? - 7/22/2007 6:18:21 PM   
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2 words fresh ginger

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RE: Safest Way of Inflicting Intense Pain? - 7/22/2007 6:20:16 PM   
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ok, i give up, guess i shouldn't look for a career in comedy...LOL

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RE: Safest Way of Inflicting Intense Pain? - 7/22/2007 6:20:33 PM   
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Just clip 'em in the beak. 

Have them mesmerised as they sit pretty in some deeply seated conversation, smile, stare slide your palm towards them like you are going to cup their cheek and as you get within the focii in which they would cross their eyess, make an o with your thumb and middle finger at the last moment and release it in the septum.

Pretty safe and hurts like a motherfucker.


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