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EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: Dick and a Paycheck (6/28/2005 8:08:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MaitresseEden astute observation, why do you think people don't ask the value questions? I think it may be because then they would have to closely examine their own, and most are too afraid to look that deep, or see thier own hypocrisy. Great post! Ms. Eden I think there's some truth in that but I also think because those are more personal and private questions to ask, I would not ask those questions of someone if they were just talking about a guy they'd met and were casually dating. If they were a close friend of mine, I know we would have those conversations as time went on, as I got to know the other person and as my friend began evaluating their relationship together. Otherwise I consider it none of my business and so stick with the fun shallow social questions like "So how hot is he?"

MaitresseEden -> RE: Dick and a Paycheck (6/28/2005 9:18:42 AM)
quote: If a woman's primary motivation (or man, in the case of a male submissive) is to get their rocks off, or financial needs cared for, they are not submitting - they are using, mutually agreed upon or not. Well said, quote: If a submissive pays their Dom/mes bills during a rough financial period, the benefit to the submissive is the service, being allowed to serve, exclusively. I think the benifet is much more than just being allowed to serve. Benifit to the Dom/me is knowing that the submissive trulys cares about them, and thier collective welfare as a couple, and the benifit to the sub, is knowing that the trust is mutual. the Dom/me trusts the sub with thier financial well-being, as the sub trusts the dom/me with the physical well-being. Ms. Eden

MaitresseEden -> RE: Dick and a Paycheck (6/28/2005 9:23:00 AM)
quote: I have NEVER read a submissive profile stating he wants to shower her with gifts... Want to send those links this way please? well I have encountered them but they normally come with strings attached and anything with strings attached isn't really a gift. quote: have dated/married men who had no money or made much less than I, and for the record I've NEVER called them money grubbing male bitches, because when in a relationship, one is supposed to share; supposed to however doesn't always equal "does" quote: and I for the life of me cannot imagine why a man would trust me to do all kinds of things to his body, "but stay away from my money (as if to say, even if I die in your hands, I'll die rich it is ironic isn't it, personal I think it can lead a person to feel as if they are being used for thier dominant abilities, and nothing more. One might ask if this is truly a relationship? Ms. Eden

MaitresseEden -> RE: Dick and a Paycheck (6/28/2005 9:26:54 AM)
quote: think there's some truth in that but I also think because those are more personal and private questions to ask, I would not ask those questions of someone if they were just talking about a guy they'd met and were casually dating. If they were a close friend of mine, I know we would have those conversations as time went on, as I got to know the other person and as my friend began evaluating their relationship together. Otherwise I consider it none of my business and so stick with the fun shallow social questions like "So how hot is he?" There is a huge difference between casual conversation about someone elses love interests and conversations we have to screen our own. It amazes me how often people with engage in life risking behavior and enter d/s relationships with people and they don't even know each others middle name, or political standings. I think the absence of asking those "value questions" often leads to putting the cart before the horse, and leads to a relationship that is unable to more forward. Ms. Eden

lonewolf05 -> RE: Dick and a Paycheck (6/28/2005 12:18:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MaitresseEden quote: I have NEVER read a submissive profile stating he wants to shower her with gifts... Want to send those links this way please? well I have encountered them but they normally come with strings attached and anything with strings attached isn't really a gift. quote: have dated/married men who had no money or made much less than I, and for the record I've NEVER called them money grubbing male bitches, because when in a relationship, one is supposed to share; supposed to however doesn't always equal "does" quote: and I for the life of me cannot imagine why a man would trust me to do all kinds of things to his body, "but stay away from my money (as if to say, even if I die in your hands, I'll die rich it is ironic isn't it, personal I think it can lead a person to feel as if they are being used for thier dominant abilities, and nothing more. One might ask if this is truly a relationship? Ms. Eden quote: it is iron ic isn't it, personal I think it can lead a person to feel as if they are being used for thier dominant abilities, and nothing more. One might ask if this is truly a relationship? Ms. Eden ------------------------ i am not, repeat, not, trying to harp on this. but! it is one thing, to be IN a "relationship" and another to be hit-on by emails by dommes demanding money and gifts from me when i have no idea who they are or where they are. i am all for, giving my personal Lady any darn thing She wants. without question OR hestitation. but these that send out those DEMAND letters? oh boy! gets to a man's nerves aftder awhile. now, i am just-now, in-talks-with, a new possible Domme, and so far the last 24 hours has been sheer heaven for me. She has said things i have dreamed of hearing from a Domme and i am just loving this to pieces. i will not disclose details. more for my embarrassment, than Her privacy, but oooh la la...the air is a bit warmer now when i open my mailbox and find Her name attached to an email. thanks the wolf may soon be a puppy in Her hands.

MaitresseEden -> RE: Dick and a Paycheck (6/28/2005 2:49:17 PM)
quote: am not, repeat, not, trying to harp on this. but! it is one thing, to be IN a "relationship" and another to be hit-on by emails by dommes demanding money and gifts from me when i have no idea who they are or where they are. i am all for, giving my personal Lady any darn thing She wants. without question OR hestitation. but these that send out those DEMAND letters? oh boy! gets to a man's nerves aftder awhile. No arguement about that wolf.. anyone who has to demand gifts and money needs to take a close look at themselves IMHO now, i am just-now, in-talks-with, a new possible Domme, and so far the last 24 hours has been sheer heaven for me. She has said things i have dreamed of hearing from a Domme and i am just loving this to pieces. i will not disclose details. more for my embarrassment, than Her privacy, but oooh la la...the air is a bit warmer now when i open my mailbox and find Her name attached to an email. Congrats.. good luck. Ms. Eden

MrSnake -> RE: Dick and a Paycheck (6/28/2005 3:10:06 PM)
quote: Dick and a Paycheck Sounds like it should be an album title from Lil Kim or some other low class female rapper. Therein lies part of the problem, society used to deny young women careers and leave them with financial dependance upon their husband. Nowadays there is no excuse for such an attitude yet it still persists from psuedo feminists.

GoddessDustyGold -> RE: Dick and a Paycheck (6/28/2005 3:42:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig I have NEVER read a submissive profile stating he wants to shower her with gifts... Want to send those links this way please?[;)] I have dated/married men who had no money or made much less than I, and for the record I've NEVER called them money grubbing male bitches, because when in a relationship, one is supposed to share; ...and I for the life of me cannot imagine why a man would trust me to do all kinds of things to his body, "but stay away from my money (as if to say, even if I die in your hands, I'll die rich [sm=rolleyes.gif])"..M LOL...good one, M! And so true. I have seen a few of those profiles, usually when I check on them after I have received an email, but M. Eden is correct. There are always strings, and usually serious strings. I got an email yesterday asking Me for time, and the profile talked about BDSM sessions. So I replied asking if this boy was seeking Professional time. he replied "Nah, I don't need to pay for it"...then I got another email from him today saying "I just noticed your age, and I don't want to be with an old lady, anyway." reeling with shock and dismay Oh, no! I am old! I certainly hope he has better luck when he is an "old man" with the beer gut, looking for the height/weight proportionate, young and pretty play partner he wants! Ya just gotta smile and move on! W *edited for font

sudja -> RE: Dick and a Paycheck (6/28/2005 4:59:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig quote: ORIGINAL: sudja more submissives would include "want to shower her/him with gifts" than we would find from Dominants. sudja I have NEVER read a submissive profile stating he wants to shower her with gifts... Want to send those links this way please?[;)] Well, that's probably not the best thing to put in a profile, y'know? But trust me, I shower. Early and often. ;) sudja

MaitresseEden -> RE: Dick and a Paycheck (6/28/2005 5:07:14 PM)
quote: Therein lies part of the problem, society used to deny young women careers and leave them with financial dependance upon their husband. Nowadays there is no excuse for such an attitude yet it still persists from psuedo feminists. Clarify that statment please.

LadyAngelika -> RE: Dick and a Paycheck (6/28/2005 5:18:18 PM)
quote: another to be hit-on by emails by dommes demanding money and gifts from me when i have no idea who they are or where they are. We all know the saga of garylee aka unbroken houseboy, aka goodhouseboy, aka asissyforher aka lonewolf05. I'm going to try this one last time (and I'm not shouting - I'm emphasizing) USE YOUR BLOCK BUTTON & stop whinning about it! That is all you do on these boards. Is whine about the women who are after your money. Enough! - LA

BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Dick and a Paycheck (6/28/2005 6:23:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika USE YOUR BLOCK BUTTON & stop whinning about it! That is all you do on these boards. Is whine about the women who are after your money. Enough! - LA [sm=lol.gif][sm=lol.gif][sm=lol.gif] Spoken like a true domina.. M

GoddessDustyGold -> RE: Dick and a Paycheck (6/28/2005 9:34:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika USE YOUR BLOCK BUTTON & stop whinning about it! That is all you do on these boards. Is whine about the women who are after your money. Enough! - LA LOL. I had written a response (similar) and then I never bothered to post it! But I'm getting kind of curious and I would love to see at least a good sampling of all these (oh so many) headache causing emails that are stuffing all these boys' email boxes!

BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Dick and a Paycheck (6/28/2005 11:15:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sudja quote: ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig quote: ORIGINAL: sudja more submissives would include "want to shower her/him with gifts" than we would find from Dominants. sudja I have NEVER read a submissive profile stating he wants to shower her with gifts... Want to send those links this way please?[;)] Well, that's probably not the best thing to put in a profile, y'know? But trust me, I shower. Early and often. ;) sudja You're right it probably isn't the best thing to place on a profile, but since you state it's fairly common to find that among male submissive profiles, I wanted to see some of it. If you shower early and often (of your own free will, without intent to buy her), than you probably value her enough to do that, so good for you and yours.. M

kc692 -> RE: Dick and a Paycheck (6/29/2005 5:27:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lonewolf05 quote: ORIGINAL: MaitresseEden quote: I have NEVER read a submissive profile stating he wants to shower her with gifts... Want to send those links this way please? well I have encountered them but they normally come with strings attached and anything with strings attached isn't really a gift. quote: have dated/married men who had no money or made much less than I, and for the record I've NEVER called them money grubbing male bitches, because when in a relationship, one is supposed to share; supposed to however doesn't always equal "does" quote: and I for the life of me cannot imagine why a man would trust me to do all kinds of things to his body, "but stay away from my money (as if to say, even if I die in your hands, I'll die rich it is ironic isn't it, personal I think it can lead a person to feel as if they are being used for thier dominant abilities, and nothing more. One might ask if this is truly a relationship? Ms. Eden quote: it is iron ic isn't it, personal I think it can lead a person to feel as if they are being used for thier dominant abilities, and nothing more. One might ask if this is truly a relationship? Ms. Eden ------------------------ i am not, repeat, not, trying to harp on this. but! it is one thing, to be IN a "relationship" and another to be hit-on by emails by dommes demanding money and gifts from me when i have no idea who they are or where they are. i am all for, giving my personal Lady any darn thing She wants. without question OR hestitation. but these that send out those DEMAND letters? oh boy! gets to a man's nerves aftder awhile. now, i am just-now, in-talks-with, a new possible Domme, and so far the last 24 hours has been sheer heaven for me. She has said things i have dreamed of hearing from a Domme and i am just loving this to pieces. i will not disclose details. more for my embarrassment, than Her privacy, but oooh la la...the air is a bit warmer now when i open my mailbox and find Her name attached to an email. thanks the wolf may soon be a puppy in Her hands. I wish you the best of luck, garylee, and hope that this works out for you....if not, please try to stay cheerful, and not go back to abject disillusionment...it is not good for you!!

kc692 -> RE: Dick and a Paycheck (6/29/2005 5:30:06 AM)
I also would love to see a sampling of the boys' emails demanding gifts and money from them too...I am not doubting it, but, I have a hard time visualizing a Domina begging (veiled as demanding) for money and gifts......especially when they are doing the soliciting....

lonewolf05 -> RE: Dick and a Paycheck (6/29/2005 11:54:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika quote: another to be hit-on by emails by dommes demanding money and gifts from me when i have no idea who they are or where they are. We all know the saga of garylee aka unbroken houseboy, aka goodhouseboy, aka asissyforher aka lonewolf05. I'm going to try this one last time (and I'm not shouting - I'm emphasizing) USE YOUR BLOCK BUTTON & stop whinning about it! That is all you do on these boards. Is whine about the women who are after your money. Enough! - LA --------------------------- not it is not. ALL i do. you have not seen ALL my posts then have you? and btw? if you insist on this......how do you block someone you don't know>? ya can't block the entire world now can ya? damn. get real girl. i just state....there ARE those NEW incoming ones you do not expect..ok? if ya can't handle blank statements..move along on down the line and ignore my postings, ok? get a grip girl. i am not all as bad you proclaim. ya sound like my ex wives. and then when i tell people, ya wonder why "I" never learned to forget or forgive? NO ONE else does either............huh? two faced are we? gimme a break here ....damn almighty girl. take a chill pill huh? aint i allowed to make statements or are you going to hound me to my death bed? whew enough ok? i aint doing anything to YOU am i? relax take a deep breath. it aint all THAT bad is it? what? ya got it in for me personal or what? wow lady. enough. aint there something on here about personal blasting must be just for pets of the board and not the whole membership huh? what? two sets of rules huh? the wolf and all the rest...............

lonewolf05 -> kc692 (6/29/2005 11:59:45 AM)
ok ma'am. next time "I" get one, i will send it to you direct. there ARE many that send out emails to guys demanding things. but a certain someone here must have a guilt complex and keeps hounding me ...like i m a liar or something. i wonder if she is one of them that do it? promise ya. if i get the next one, i will come in here, find your name, and send it to you. maybe you will all start believeing me then? i cannot believe ma'am you ladies do not know about these money dommes. wow. have a good day ma'am. the wolf and all that

EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: kc692 (6/29/2005 12:03:53 PM)
Personally, as a kink, I don't mind being used as a "pussy and a paycheck" and I don't mind using others for the same...as long as everyone knows that's exactly what's going on for that particular time.

onceburned -> RE: kc692 (6/29/2005 12:32:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lonewolf05 if i get the next one, i will come in here, find your name, and send it to you. maybe you will all start believeing me then? i cannot believe ma'am you ladies do not know about these money dommes. wow. Actually, I am curious too. I keep hearing guys complain but I have never gotten any email such as you describe. Could you post the next unsolicitted demand for money here in the message boards. I think many people (myself included) are curious to see what those emails are like.

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