honoredtoserve
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Wow!!!! Hello to E/everyone for the first time. i am a Leather slave girl, trained originally in Dallas and have served Mistresses in New England, the Midwest, and San Francisco. i've been around the track a few times, and decided to respond to this thread because i think i might know a few things about the subject. i read Ms. E's profile, Her original post and all the subsequent posts written in response to Her. Having lived my life as a slave for some time, i was shocked at the number of F/folks W/who attacked Ms. E. for instructing the submissive to use Her preferred protocols of speech. Her profile clearly states that She is a Leatherwoman, trained in Old Guard tradition; and it clearly states what type of submissive/slave She is searching for. For a girl responding to Ms. E's profile to write, "Get back to me. Let me know," that submissive girl would have to be entirely new to the life, entirely ignorant of Leather protocol, or, if experienced, then simply way too unconscious of simple D/s manners to be writing to the Ms. E. described in that profile. i found Ms. E.'s "constructive criticism" quite gentle. i would expect some kind of correction from any Domme worth Her salt, so to speak, if i were to say to Her, "Get back to me." This submissive contacted Ms. E. -- not the other way around -- in response to Her profile, which clearly states some expectations. By contacting Ms. E., i feel that the girl gave Ms. E "limited consent" to at least expect courtesy and some semblance of "submissive speech." Ms. E.'s response, Her constructive criticism, and Her instruction to please, rephrase more precisely defined the manner of speech She expects from a girl who might desire to serve or play with Her. The girl could have written back and said something like, "If it pleases You, Ma'am, i would be honored to continue this discussion with You." Instead, she wrote back all hot and bothered and suggested the correction implied Ms. E. was looking for mindless bimbos. Get back to me ??????? Where i live in the world of Leather, that is a little beyond "loose." None of the submissives in my little corner of the Leather world would speak that way to any Dom/Domme, regardless of Ownership or other relationship. It would be considered rude and unacceptable. i'm not saying that the rest of Y/you have to follow Ms. E.'s rules or the rules i live by. Not at all. But a girl who has read Ms. E.'s profile and writes to Her to explore the possibility of a relationship needs to get with the program or expect to be "instructed" to learn the rules .... or the thing is going to go nowhere. Why write to Ms. E in the first place? The thing about sex ..... Really, Ms. E's profile makes it pretty clear that "sex" is not a primary objective in Her variety of Leather D/s. There is nothing wrong with looking for kinky sex online. There's certainly nothing wrong with hoping to find a Mistress Who likes sexual play. But how someone could read Ms. E.'s profile and think she was going to get a hot D/s sexual marathon with no protocol or other D/s dynamic makes no sense to me. Ms. E.'s "bubble" is Her D/s Headspace. i can see why the girl's cavalier slang was such a downer for Her. Last, i guess i have to say that i was annoyed with the girl for implying that those submissives who work hard to be mindful of our protocols and rules and who cherish the Leather traditions are mindless bimbos. i most certainly am not. It can require great effort and focus to maintain behavioral and speech protocols at times: e,g,, conversing/dealing with Tops at play parties Who have not obtained my Owner's permission to speak with me or touch me. But, as Ms. E. said, i represent Ms. Cindy Who trained me, Mistress Victoria, Sir and Lady Shadowfind, and Mistress Lashes Whom i've served, my Leather Family, the Leather community, and myself each time i act or speak where other lifestyle F/folk can see or hear me. As for Ms. E. and this forum, perhaps She assumed that the forum would be interested in a serious, thoughtful discussion about the manners with which W/we speak to one another on Collarme.com. As for myself, i, too, apologize for bothering or boring A/anyone with my thoughts on this subject. i don't suppose there are any rules which compell those who would drink coffee to read my post. Respectfully, mouse
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