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ORIGINAL: adoracat

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ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

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i Need Your Love and Understanding.

i Earn Your Respect and my place Under Your Shadow.

i am Guided by Your Wisdom and Compassionate Command.

i find the call for Punishment follows Failure.

i ponder the existence of Failure, and ponder the existence of Power.  

i then ask, Whom has failed, and Whom should know punishment?

chia* (the pet) 

if Sir orders me to do something, and i cannot do it, i am asked why, listened to, and correction is made....whether to me for not doing it, or his request is altered.

if Sir orders me to do something and i do not do it, i am asked why, listened to....and probably punished, depending on the reason i give.

there are reasons to punish sometimes, yes.  but those punisments, to me, are loving corrections by my Daddy who loves me.

kitten, who's not ever had worse than a stern lecture, because she keeps trying even when she cant complete something.

adoracat 

Therefore, failure does not exist, as you continue to move forward to please
your Sir. Neither of you appears to identify that the inability to complete a
specific task is defined as acute disobedience. Reasoning and corrective
dialogue becomes a beautiful exchange of understanding for you both,
a fortunate approach reaching beyond immediate demand for repercussion.

My issue with the OP, was the bold statement defining how i as a submissive,
need, earn, and use punishment as guidance. We all fail at tasks in our lives,
Dominant and submissive alike, therefore, does the mantra apply evenly
across the spectrum? Consequence for action, it is understood by anyone
with a basic understanding of life, we reap what we sew. But does our
inability to complete specific task automatically define us as needing
punishment in order that we might find the path to succeed at such?

Each and every relationship possesses it's unique dynamic and will allow
that which it allows, the hopeful combined understanding of those involved.
Some may feel that they do in fact need punishment, in fact craving such
in order to become complete as a submissive, some, not all. To speak of
earning punishment as though it is a cherished prize to possess does not
find truth in my own heart and head, as the subject applies to me.

i will seek to uplift and adore the Dominant before me, fully aware that i
am an imperfect boy who will stumble and fall even as i offer of myself.
If my approach to task is coupled with a fear of punishment should my
ability fall short, will i begin such with pause and hesitation to start with?
Will the expectation and anticipation of punishment set me up for a fall?

To resist, to blatantly disobey the acceptance of punishment may be the
result of miscommunication and misunderstanding from the onset. Some
see such as cause for immediate dismissal, the easy solution on the surface.
Some view such as need for discussion to clarify boundries within the
relationship, that a greater understanding is reached. As is apparent in most
all subjects here at the collarme hive, the buzz is as varied as there are
voices to speak. We all find those moments where we arch our eyebrow
and question those whom set image and ideology as adorments about us.

We are, we are not, we do, we do not, no carved in stone detail to consume.
Most becomes suggestion, thoughts to ponder, circumstance to share, the
ever expanding horizon of our journey into ourselves. Know yourself, know
the one you reach out and into, seeking to glorify the relationship in dynamics
of exaltation. Resist the mantras of those whom would seek to define you
according to their great judgement and self-proclaimed knowledge. That
shall become the just punishment of the moment, a deserved disobedience.

chia* (the pet)

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Love is a many splendid sting.

You can stick me in the corner, but I'll probably just end up coloring on the walls.

(in reply to adoracat)

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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

In reading profiles when I have time I always come across the issue of punishment, the sub needs it! earns it! uses it as guidance! etc.

But little is said as to the course of action when the punishment is rejected.

Any thoughts?

CelticPrince