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RE: .why. - 8/6/2007 2:53:35 PM   
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You are expecting people to believe that a 50 year of who has been practising BDSM since they were 49 and only once a week has far more experience than a 20 year old who has been practising since they could be legal (in the UK that would be 16) with a mentor who is say - a whipmaster?
Na.  You're just plain wrong.
 
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RE: .why. - 8/6/2007 2:56:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Latex, I firmly believe that a 20 yr old can be Dom, and that a 20 yr old can have more experience, in certain areas. Baring a mental condition, a 50 yr old will have more overall experence in life.

BTW I can think of a 26 year old that I would feel more comfortable with as president than any of the jokers that are running.

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RE: .why. - 8/6/2007 2:57:23 PM   
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I can think of many reasons why there isn't a 20 year old president and experience doesn't even enter the top 100.
Besides, a 20 year old could have far more experience of BDSM than a 50 year old.
Age does not facilitate experience.  And experience doesn't aid judgement.
 
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i disagree there is no way a 20 year old would have more experince then a 50 year... there are so many areas of ds that no way in the entire universe could that happen. one area is in the mental behavior area. this goes back to a debate i saw that could someone be a Dom at 20


You can disagree all you like but a 20 year old can have more BDSM experience than a 50 year old. Not everyone starts in the lifestyle when they are young and some people jump in with both feet when they are very young. A 50 year old probably has more experience but it's by no means a certainty.

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RE: .why. - 8/6/2007 3:07:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		this is interesting I see this conflict a lot on other sites.. i still have to disagree... here is why ( if you come across a submissive with emotional triggers or baggae you can do more damage then good...cause it is the life experince that helps you to problem solve ) now Darcy is right about experince. even the top level uk doms dommes will tell you that it takes years to really master your skills on any side of the fence.. can a 20 year old dom be better then a 50 year old dom if he has one year equal to maybe... but not if the 50 year old has 30 something  years real time experince. history is always a good teacher on that one. ask some of the older subs if  they would be kept by a 20 year old dom.. this could be interesting

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RE: .why. - 8/6/2007 3:07:24 PM   
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i disagree there is no way a 20 year old would have more experince then a 50 year...

Disagree all you like, you're still wrong.  There are plenty folk here, our age and older, that have less experience than many of those who have found their way here at 20.  While age can certainly facilitate experience, it in no way guarantees it.

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there are so many areas of ds that no way in the entire universe could that happen. one area is in the mental behavior area.

Don't take this the wrong way, but based on your recent posts, you're probably not the best person to judge anyone else in the "mental behavior area."

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RE: .why. - 8/6/2007 3:09:02 PM   
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It really is about life experince. it is why you do not see a lot of ceos at 20 years old.. there is a set order to everything. a natural guide line so to speak.  or for that matter 20 a year old president lol
Actually, you won't see a twenty year old president because there is an age limit in the constitution limiting it. At least for America anyway.

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RE: .why. - 8/6/2007 3:09:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		I can quite honestly, and without reserve, say that it is very possible that a 20 year old could have more experience in any specific area, such as BDSM, than I do at age 45. 

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RE: .why. - 8/6/2007 3:12:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		I always laugh at these debates I see the experience arguments used by old men as merely a way to entice young women who’d learn just as much from reading a book anyway. We all need to justify ourselves in this lifestyle thesedays it seems.

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RE: .why. - 8/6/2007 3:14:56 PM   
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We aren't necessarily speaking about a 50 year old having 30 years experience.  We are discussing why someone thinks that just because they have 'realtime' experience of say - 10 years and they are 50 doesn't make them more knowledgeable than a 30 year old (for example) with the same time of experience just because they are 50.  That 50 year old could be crap at learning anything.  They could be inept at dealing with any emotional issues.  Or crap at holding and using a flogger because they just are.  Being 50 doesn;'t make you greater at processing the knowledge you have been subjected to.
 
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RE: .why. - 8/6/2007 3:15:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Why even feel the need to make the comparison and who usually makes this comparison?

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RE: .why. - 8/6/2007 3:20:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Noooooooooo kidding there Dark!!!

I have two parents that are living examples of that thought process. Age does NOT guarantee wisdom.


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RE: .why. - 8/6/2007 3:25:04 PM   
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this is interesting I see this conflict a lot on other sites.. i still have to disagree... here is why ( if you come across a submissive with emotional triggers or baggae you can do more damage then good...cause it is the life experince that helps you to problem solve ) now Darcy is right about experince. even the top level uk doms dommes will tell you that it takes years to really master your skills on any side of the fence.. can a 20 year old dom be better then a 50 year old dom if he has one year equal to maybe... but not if the 50 year old has 30 something  years real time experince. history is always a good teacher on that one. ask some of the older subs if  they would be kept by a 20 year old dom.. this could be interesting


I have to disagree with You,some P/people learn faster than others.
For instance two people reading the same thing at the same time one may get it the other wont.It just works that way whether your 20 or 50.

I have to make the point that living life gives you experience, for
instance..I was on My own at age 16 whereas Punk stayed home til age 20
I have way more street smarts and coping capabilities than she does.
Not saying she isnt smart she knows more about building a house than I do.
I just like everyone else has the potential to learn how to do anything if YOU really want it.No matter the age practice makes perfect.

I dont know the answer to the question WHY....

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RE: .why. - 8/6/2007 3:25:37 PM   
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RE: .why. - 8/6/2007 3:31:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Really?  Which post in that forum explains it?

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RE: .why. - 8/6/2007 3:33:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		What does learning from your reverse orientation have to do with experience and age?
I cannot see anything there that mentions anything relevant to your claim.
Maybe you could post a snippet of what we are suppose to be reading?
 
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RE: .why. - 8/6/2007 3:35:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64

this is interesting I see this conflict a lot on other sites.. i still have to disagree... here is why ( if you come across a submissive with emotional triggers or baggae you can do more damage then good...cause it is the life experience that helps you to problem solve ) now Darcy is right about experience. even the top level uk Dom's Dommes will tell you that it takes years to really master your skills on any side of the fence.. can a 20 year old Dom be better then a 50 year old Dom if he has one year equal to maybe... but not if the 50 year old has 30 something  years real time experience. history is always a good teacher on that one. ask some of the older subs if  they would be kept by a 20 year old Dom.. this could be interesting


I have to disagree with You,some P/people learn faster than others.
For instance two people reading the same thing at the same time one may get it the other wont.It just works that way whether your 20 or 50.

I have to make the point that living life gives you experience, for
instance..I was on My own at age 16 whereas Punk stayed home tail age 20
I have way more street smarts and coping capabilities than she does.
Not saying she isn't smart she knows more about building a house than I do.
I just like everyone else has the potential to learn how to do anything if YOU really want it.No matter the age practice makes perfect.

I dont know the answer to the question WHY....



i think it comes down to maturity and responsibility. thought process problem solving skills in test that has been pr oven. it is why you do not see commercial airline pilots at 20 or heart surgeons

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RE: .why. - 8/6/2007 3:40:50 PM   
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It really is about life experince. it is why you do not see a lot of ceos at 20 years old.. there is a set order to everything. a natural guide line so to speak.  or for that matter 20 a year old president lol


Um....where were you in government class?  That's impossble unless there has been constitiutional amendment I haven't heard about

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RE: .why. - 8/6/2007 3:42:23 PM   
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this is interesting I see this conflict a lot on other sites.. i still have to disagree... here is why ( if you come across a submissive with emotional triggers or baggae you can do more damage then good...cause it is the life experince that helps you to problem solve ) now Darcy is right about experince. even the top level uk doms dommes will tell you that it takes years to really master your skills on any side of the fence.. can a 20 year old dom be better then a 50 year old dom if he has one year equal to maybe... but not if the 50 year old has 30 something  years real time experince. history is always a good teacher on that one. ask some of the older subs if  they would be kept by a 20 year old dom.. this could be interesting


Assuming that the 50 year old actually grew up. Women complain constently about "men" over 50 who still can't think with the brain above their waist and there are 45 year old women who don't have a clue how to survive in life without someone helping them.

It really just depends on the person.

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RE: .why. - 8/6/2007 3:43:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64

this is interesting I see this conflict a lot on other sites.. i still have to disagree... here is why ( if you come across a submissive with emotional triggers or baggae you can do more damage then good...cause it is the life experience that helps you to problem solve ) now Darcy is right about experience. even the top level uk Dom's Dommes will tell you that it takes years to really master your skills on any side of the fence.. can a 20 year old Dom be better then a 50 year old Dom if he has one year equal to maybe... but not if the 50 year old has 30 something  years real time experience. history is always a good teacher on that one. ask some of the older subs if  they would be kept by a 20 year old Dom.. this could be interesting


I have to disagree with You,some P/people learn faster than others.
For instance two people reading the same thing at the same time one may get it the other wont.It just works that way whether your 20 or 50.

I have to make the point that living life gives you experience, for
instance..I was on My own at age 16 whereas Punk stayed home tail age 20
I have way more street smarts and coping capabilities than she does.
Not saying she isn't smart she knows more about building a house than I do.
I just like everyone else has the potential to learn how to do anything if YOU really want it.No matter the age practice makes perfect.

I dont know the answer to the question WHY....



i think it comes down to maturity and responsibility. thought process problem solving skills in test that has been pr oven. it is why you do not see commercial airline pilots at 20 or heart surgeons


Gee... could that have anything to do with the fact the training required for those things takes years and therefore it would be impossible to graduate while under 20?

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RE: .why. - 8/6/2007 3:45:52 PM   
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I can think of many reasons why there isn't a 20 year old president and experience doesn't even enter the top 100.
Besides, a 20 year old could have far more experience of BDSM than a 50 year old.
Age does not facilitate experience.  And experience doesn't aid judgement.
 
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i disagree there is no way a 20 year old would have more experince then a 50 year... there are so many areas of ds that no way in the entire universe could that happen. one area is in the mental behavior area. this goes back to a debate i saw that could someone be a Dom at 20


What if the 20 year old started when he was 18 and the 50 year old started when he was 49 and three quarters?

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