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RE: .why. - 8/6/2007 11:20:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		gee i think you kinda of flew past the point of what  my statment said a twenty year old is not nor will be on the same level as someone in the lifestyle for years sorry just will not happen it is like saying some kid is a lot better then a professor at a university  they might like to think so rofl.

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RE: .why. - 8/6/2007 11:23:59 PM   
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gee i think you kinda of flew past the point of what  my statment said a twenty year old is not nor will be on the same level as someone in the lifestyle for years sorry just will not happen it is like saying some kid is a lot better then a professor at a university  they might like to think so rofl.


Of course not!

Nobody has said that. What people have been saying is that: A) dominants have to start somewhere, B) young people can make great dominants and submissives, they just have to be willing to learn and adapt to what they are learning and C) a 20 year old who has been learning and having d/s relationships since they were 18 knows more then a 50 year old who just started last month and hasn't ever owned a slave.

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RE: .why. - 8/7/2007 2:37:46 AM   
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Yes, I was asking for peoples personal thoughts and I appriciate your's.
 
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RE: .why. - 8/7/2007 2:43:42 AM   
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It's condescending with an extra s.
 
The word "English" should be capitalized since it refers to the language of a particular county
 
In America, we use "spelled" as the past tense of spell, but since you are British, I guess you get a pass on using spelt.
 
 I like Older Doms, not because they are necessarily more experienced, but because they have a cultural memory similar to mine. I like to sit around recalling old candy bars, television shows, toys, etc with someone near my age rather than with someone who wasn't even born when those things existed. That's simply a matter of preference on my part, and I don't expect my views to be shared by everyone. Also, I like my authority figures to be near my age or older...again, a preference. Even if Mr. 20 year old Dom has been doing it for years, I'd still prefer the older less experienced one simply because I am in it for more than the D/s.


That was the point of my post Chained.  I am crap at spelling because I suffer from dyslexia.  However I try my hardest to improve on my spelling and have done all my life.  But that doesn't mean I have more experience of spelling and can spell or hold a good written discourse better than people like Aqua or LA - just like Latex - and yet in age, they are younger than I.  So therefore the argument that age equals more experience or maturity just doesn't cut it in anything.  It is what you learn and how you intake it that matters.  Preference is a different kettle of fish to being blinkered because of someones age and assuming they know it all and are better  at something because they are older.
 
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RE: .why. - 8/7/2007 2:53:15 AM   
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we are talking about people in the lifestyle have been in 
for crying out loud there is more to bdsm then just sceneing.. or did you forget the part of bonding and growth with your sub or dom domme.. and what about mental conditioning  mmm k . your going to have a full understanding and dynamics of mental health.. at 20 give me a break.. no way you have not raised a kid you have no clue what her or his head space is going to be.. where she has been or done i am sorry but no. there are to many variables in a subbies mind for someone at twenty to deal with. for effective growth...


Have you ever raised a child yourself?  If you haven't, you cannot possibly claim that you know more about child rearing than a 20 year old who had a child at 18 or younger.  You would have zero experience.
 
And what about a 20 year old who is studying psychology or social science?  Do they have less knowledge or more knowledge than a 40 year old who has lived in semi isolation in the back of beyond?  So these are extreme examples but I seriously would like you to answer, because you haven't responded to quite a few questions people have asked you apart from the 'well there are people that agree with me so there' stance.
 
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RE: .why. - 8/7/2007 2:59:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		You can be a good Dom at any age. I mean we have to realize there are always others around the same age. Why can’t a 20 year old be a good Dom for a 20 year old submissive? But, to add a dose of realism to our talk, here is an observation that my years have given me. Generally, women like older men and men usually like younger women. I suppose I could come up with theories as why this happens, but I’ll leave it as an observation.

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RE: .why. - 8/7/2007 8:52:54 AM   
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we are talking about people in the lifestyle have been in 
for crying out loud there is more to bdsm then just sceneing.. or did you forget the part of bonding and growth with your sub or dom domme.. and what about mental conditioning  mmm k . your going to have a full understanding and dynamics of mental health.. at 20 give me a break.. no way you have not raised a kid you have no clue what her or his head space is going to be.. where she has been or done i am sorry but no. there are to many variables in a subbies mind for someone at twenty to deal with. for effective growth...


Have you ever raised a child yourself?  If you haven't, you cannot possibly claim that you know more about child rearing than a 20 year old who had a child at 18 or younger.  You would have zero experience.
 
And what about a 20 year old who is studying psychology or social science?  Do they have less knowledge or more knowledge than a 40 year old who has lived in semi isolation in the back of beyond?  So these are extreme examples but I seriously would like you to answer, because you haven't responded to quite a few questions people have asked you apart from the 'well there are people that agree with me so there' stance.
 
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Gee Dark you seem to know me better then anyone. I am totally with out words that someone knows so much yet contributes so much dribble.. Yep you know all my life experience all there is to know past present and future.
lol as if  as for maturity you show it better then anyone. yep like a turd on a rock in the sun all dried up.. but what ya going to do just spout off more dribble about how someone does something you do not like.. let me guess the common sense train left right.. when we make excuses to support stupid ideas and concepts is the day we inherit disaster.. so puppet king
you can go on about your little circle of illusion delusion. when it all hits you up side that head of yours.. I am just going to hold up a huge sign that says I told you so.. reality always does that yep yep..

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RE: .why. - 8/7/2007 9:00:00 AM   
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RE: .why. - 8/7/2007 9:06:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nobody 'knows' you Latex - which is why people asked you questions.
For whatever reason best known to you, you do not answer but instead make false claims for everyone else without offering up the evidence which, even the worst scientist at least attempts to do.
As for the train, I believe it pulled out with you still on the platform.
 
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RE: .why. - 8/7/2007 9:08:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		what question was asked. what honest question was asked that was not to be rude wit but of honest intent..
i only reply if it is a honest question not something ment to be a dig

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RE: .why. - 8/7/2007 9:16:06 AM   
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RE: .why. - 8/7/2007 9:19:24 AM   
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what question was asked. what honest question was asked that was not to be rude wit but of honest intent..
i only reply if it is a honest question not something ment to be a dig


I can only answer for myself - anyone else who wants to re-ask their questions will.  So - You made a statement in an earlier post about - and I quote -

quote:

mmm k . your going to have a full understanding and dynamics of mental health.. at 20 give me a break.. no way you have not raised a kid you have no clue what her or his head space is going to be.. 


So - my question was if you had raised a child at all.  If you haven't then how could you possibly have more experience or knowledge in raising a child than a 20 year old - and therefore the statement you made was errored.
You are how old  - 40ish? Well - again - if there is a 30 year old who has professional training in mental health they will have more experience and knowledge in that field than yourself unless you are a fully qualified professional - no matter how old or mature you are - even if you have been practising BDSM for 30 years and they have only been doing it for 10.  These aren't questions meant as a dig, but I just can;t get my head around the thought that someone has more experience just because they are older - in any lifestyle, job or profession.
 
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RE: .why. - 8/7/2007 11:08:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		IF I were to own a Porshe......if......and it needed some work done. Do I take it to the 60 year old guy down the road that likes to tinker with old cars, never went to school for it but can rebuild a carburator for a 62 Impala OR....do I take it to the 25 year old kid that just graduated Porshe's special technician training school with flying colours?

Both mechanics, one has been wrenching for 40 plus years, the other for 7. Sorry old man but my wheels are going to the 25 year old.

My mother had six kids and has 10 grandkids, my sister has one 2 year old. If a person asked me to refer a person to care for their child, I would refer them to my sister or take care of the screaming brat myself, looonnnnnnnnnggg before I would refer them to my mother. Leaving the kid in the care of my two female dogs might be marginally better. Depending on the day.

I still say that age is no guarantee of expertise and/or wisdom.


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RE: .why. - 8/7/2007 11:12:49 AM   
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Have you ever raised a child yourself?  If you haven't, you cannot possibly claim that you know more about child rearing than a 20 year old who had a child at 18 or younger.  You would have zero experience.

Well I'll disagree on that.

EXPERIENCE does not equal KNOWLEDGE.

I've never raised a kid but I think I know a lot more about good parenting than a majority of people who breed in the world.

Experience, knowledge, age, time, wisdom, maturity- they MAY be generally related to eachother.  But none of them necessarily are.

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RE: .why. - 8/7/2007 11:23:57 AM   
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did we not cover this about the whole spelling thingy... that gets old come get off it... when comes to responsibility iam sorry the facts are there.. and stef  the other reason is it is about life experience to know right from wrong there is this movie with Morgan freeman... i love this movie anyway he is a principle of high school with issues. he grabs this kid and says i wish i had two cents for every punk kid who t hought they knew more then those that have came before them.. history will always tell it the way it is  treally  is all about experience life experience at 20 na i am sorry just do not qualify..


Ohhhhh now I see...it's a Morgan Freeman movie...Of course you are right.  I have seen the light because all movies are spot on correct.

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RE: .why. - 8/7/2007 11:28:28 AM   
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while i do not fallow the sheep context. I do know from experince what works and what does not.. There are people who know more then i do.. the people i respect and trust all have paid their dues long before the net..
proof is in what you do not what you say.. I deal with this all the time in IT.  i always have fun when  young pup dumps data or crashes a massive network. the problem is when it cost us.. again someone at twenty would not have the knowledge other then text book knowledge to deal with bipoloar disorders. mpds tons of other issuses not to mention. health problems .fiscal problems.. with older subs.. infact how to treat and experinced sub... their mental state would be different.....


This statement that I bolded, underlined and italiczed disproves everything you've tried, in vain, to  prove.  According to you:  At 20 if I do things that are smart I am "experienced".  If at 60 I do something stupid I am not "experienced". 

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RE: .why. - 8/7/2007 11:32:51 AM   
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anyone can read a text book it is how it is applied that make the difference and that is something that only real life
experience can teach you



And what if that 50 year old spent 30 years "doing it wrong" but did it nonetheless.  Is he still better than the 20 year old who learned "proper technique" and practiced for two years?  No. 

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RE: .why. - 8/7/2007 11:35:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64

we are talking about people in the lifestyle have been in 
for crying out loud there is more to bdsm then just sceneing.. or did you forget the part of bonding and growth with your sub or dom domme.. and what about mental conditioning  mmm k . your going to have a full understanding and dynamics of mental health.. at 20 give me a break.. no way you have not raised a kid you have no clue what her or his head space is going to be.. where she has been or done i am sorry but no. there are to many variables in a subbies mind for someone at twenty to deal with. for effective growth...


Have you ever raised a child yourself?  If you haven't, you cannot possibly claim that you know more about child rearing than a 20 year old who had a child at 18 or younger.  You would have zero experience.
 
And what about a 20 year old who is studying psychology or social science?  Do they have less knowledge or more knowledge than a 40 year old who has lived in semi isolation in the back of beyond?  So these are extreme examples but I seriously would like you to answer, because you haven't responded to quite a few questions people have asked you apart from the 'well there are people that agree with me so there' stance.
 
Peace
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Gee Dark you seem to know me better then anyone. I am totally with out words that someone knows so much yet contributes so much dribble.. Yep you know all my life experience all there is to know past present and future.
lol as if  as for maturity you show it better then anyone. yep like a turd on a rock in the sun all dried up.. but what ya going to do just spout off more dribble about how someone does something you do not like.. let me guess the common sense train left right.. when we make excuses to support stupid ideas and concepts is the day we inherit disaster.. so puppet king
you can go on about your little circle of illusion delusion. when it all hits you up side that head of yours.. I am just going to hold up a huge sign that says I told you so.. reality always does that yep yep..



You have an illusion of delusion..which means you are perfectly not deluded! You go!

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RE: .why. - 8/7/2007 11:57:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, you are right Em - and I didn't really express my words properly.  I wasn't saying that experience equals knowledge, but that there are some things that just can't be taught by someone without experience.  It doesn;t make them more experienced, its a different type of - and you can't equate different types of experience or knowledge as being higher on a scale than the other.  It has nothing to do with experience, or knowledge or age - but how a person can process the information that is given to them, or that they come across.  They can be related - but more often than not - they aren't.
 
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RE: .why. - 8/7/2007 12:28:04 PM   
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Why do people believe that more years = more knowledge?



The reasoning there seems pretty logical to me.






I agree too, I am still learning even after a decade in this lifestyle. Who wants to label themselves as a know it all ? I do not, I enjoy the exploration.

I do believe more years = more knowledge, that is common sense to be honest.

A better understanding of:  life skills & experiences, play mates/partners, attitude, patience, maturity, sexual awareness, and expectations, empathy, confidence, competence. My pennys worth :)

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