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ORIGINAL: substobbws

Yeah, I respect anyone's right to their opinion, but have to remember that guns and the willingness to own and use them are what give people the ability to exercise their rights. The ugly truth of reality is that you have to be ready to be just as brutal as the people who would deprive you of your rights for their own selfish purposes.

We have a biased media that doesn't exactly jump to report the net saving of human life wherever concealed carry is voted in, but will jump to report any accidental shooting that supports their agenda. How can you ever compile the statistic "The Number of People Who Weren't Murdered Thanks to Concealed Carry"?

I believe it's Switzerland where members of the military are required to take their full auto weapons home with them on leave, where more than half the homes have full auto weapons in them, and where the crime rate is almost zero. Another tidbit you won't hear on the evening news.

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

fast reply to no one in particular:
The three most overrated things in America:
Teenage pussy
Mack Trucks
Automatic weapons
All three try to make up for a lack of talent with an overabundance of enthusiasm.
thompson

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ORIGINAL: substobbws

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

fast reply to no one in particular:
The three most overrated things in America:
Teenage pussy
Mack Trucks
Automatic weapons
All three try to make up for a lack of talent with an overabundance of enthusiasm.
thompson

Why do they put a bulldog on the front of a Mack truck?  (joke)

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ORIGINAL: caitlyn

General, etc ...

My favorite part of this quarterly CollarMe topic, is that my state will never pass a strict gun control law, and if the federal government passes one, people will ignore it. The police might get upset, but they are far too busy worrying about the darkness of window tint on my car.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled thread. We still have ten pages to go before we hit quota, and as of yet, nobody has mentioned penis size as it relates to gun ownership ... and we can't do without that, now can we?

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ORIGINAL: substobbws

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

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Until you can iliminate ignorance,we have to err on the side of children.

Oh what evil stems from that sentiment.  I take it you oppose sites like this and anything else of an adult nature on the internet, after all "we must err on the side of children".  We shouldn't allow BDSM books to be sold in bookstores because "we must err on the side of children" 

Rapists use penisis to rape women, we should cut off penises to prevent rape.  I mean "we must err on the side of children"  People like you really REALLY scare me.

I say that as a left wing liberal with socialist leanings that would terrify many here.

Don`t be ridiculous.My comment was in regards to whether kids and guns are good idea,especially hand guns.They`re not.I wasn`t calling for a law or restrictions.I was saying that we have to err on the side of safety,when it comes to kids handling guns.That`s all,hot head.

Your slippery slope argument is bogus.When there is a question,we always err on the side of children`s safety.Cut someone`s dick off,lol,give me a break..........

In the case of seat belts,as an adult,you can scoff all you want,and risk a ticket.But with a child in the car,you better strap them in(car child seat,seat belt,etc)or your ass is grass if they should get hurt.The laws to protect kids, supersede your right to be a scoff law.As the adult ,your responsibility to  keep them safe is greater then your rights.

Are you going to suggest that making a law like that one(to protect kids),is somehow infringing on your rights?

Just look at these kids.How much you wanna bet their parents got them the pistol?

http://www.videovat.com/videos/468/gun-safety-shoots-foot.aspx

I'm seriously doubting the authenticity of that video. He asks "Whose handgun is this?" and then the rest of it just seems set it up for the ending. After saying "It's allright, dude." He 'accidentally' pulls the trigger on a double action? Do you realize how hard that would be to do accidentally? If you tried to lift that gun up out of your pocket by only the trigger, the weight of the gun wouldn't be enough to do it. You would have to SQUEEZE the trigger. What would the ground look like all around his foot? Stuff would still be falling out of the air and there'd be a dust cloud. I believe you're falling for something. I wouldn't be surprised if that was an air pistol.

Gun control laws might work IF you had a time machine and could go back to the day the first gun was invented. I think this is the difference between idealism and realism. Gun control laws might "feel good" to you, but they won't solve the problem. If you can't remove them from society, I don't think there's a substitute for demonstrating to children exactly what a gun can do so they know when they come across one. I think just hearing and feeling the concussion from one going off does a lot to get the point across.

At least by invoking children, and assuming that you would want whatever would provide the best net saving of human life, you must be coming around to supporting more concealed carry laws being voted in!

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Guess it is just toilet paper.

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

Owner59, that would be Kennesaw, Georgia and their burglary rates dropped dramatically too. Never anything about a burglar being shot either. Just knowing the 65 year old grandma was likely to have a shotgun, probably convined them to drive a few miles away to another town.

Orion

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ORIGINAL: Cuffkinks

The old saying is true..."When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns."
The government needs to work on creating stiffer penalties for those who use guns illegally, rather than constantly try to create new laws that make it even more difficult for a normal, law-abiding citizen to obtain a permit to own/carry a gun.
The guy who uses a gun to commit a crime is not the guy who is going to go to a gun safety course, get properly trained in firearm safety, apply for a permit and wait for it to be sent to him. Granted, there are other situations...Crimes of passion...etc, where someone might use a legal firearm to harm someone, but those cases are far fewer than those cases where a legal firearm has been used to protect oneself, loved ones, and/or property.
I have My permit and I carry. I'm glad I carry. I will continue to carry until (God forbid) the anti-gun nuts get enough control of government that guns are outlawed. Then I will reluctantly turn in My weapons. Afterall, I'm not a criminal.

Great,... let`s pass a law,like  that nutty southern town,that every household have a gun in it.Only this time, we`ll go a step farther(better, in the eyes of an NRAer) and require an auto-matic grenade launcher, in every household.

Cuffkinks:
"  I have My permit and I carry. I'm glad I carry. I will continue to carry until (God forbid) the anti-gun nuts get enough control of government that guns are outlawed. Then I will reluctantly turn in My weapons. Afterall, I'm not a criminal."

Why are the NRAers so paranoid about the gov. taking their guns?No one has ever taken that right away,only regulated it,as it says in the Constitution.

Thing is,most guns don`t protect people.You`re more likely to shot a friend or family member,then a perp.

And there are plenty of people,w/ out criminal records,who abuse their gun rights.A couple years ago,someone shot off the lower jaw and tongue off my neighbor`s dog.It  limped back home and had to be put down.God help the "gun nut" who did that,if I ever find him.

Not saying you or anyone here would do that.But I`m pretty sure the guy who did, was a "pro gun nut"(to para-phrase Cuffkinks).

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Why is that?

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

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Why is that?

Because they had just been through a war, and knew that 'arms' is the overarching term which meant any and every sort of weapon, including military weapons.


"ARM:
"weapon," 1300, from O.Fr. armes (pl.), from L. arma "weapons," lit. "tools, implements (of war)," from PIE base *ar- "fit, join." The notion seems to be "that which is fitted together." Meaning "heraldic insignia" (in coat of arms, etc.) is 1330; originally they were borne on shields of fully armed knights or barons. The verb meaning "to furnish with weapons" is from 1205."
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=arms&searchmode=none

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

I`ve said it before and I`ll say it again.A gun in your home is more likely to be used against a friend or family member(on purpose or by mistake),than on a perp.

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ORIGINAL: captainblack

Well most New Yorkers, including cops just have the wrong attitude about guns....they think guns kill. They fail to recognize that a gun is just a tool....much as a drill, a hammer, a baseball bat, or a single tail. All the afore mentioned can kill if the person on the "handle end" wants to kill with them. Because of this poor attitude they are afraid to teach proper gun safety to their kids. I suppose you could look at this as evolution at work.