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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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ORIGINAL: substobbws

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fast reply to no one in particular:
The three most overrated things in America:
Teenage pussy
Mack Trucks
Automatic weapons
All three try to make up for a lack of talent with an overabundance of enthusiasm.
thompson

Why do they put a bulldog on the front of a Mack truck?  (joke)

substobbws:
It was always my experience with them that about every two hundred miles the engine would just stop.  When I would pull over to the side of the road that lil dawg would hop down from the hood and go take a leak.  When he got back on the hood the truck would start and run just fine.
thompson

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

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ORIGINAL: substobbws

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

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Until you can iliminate ignorance,we have to err on the side of children.

Oh what evil stems from that sentiment.  I take it you oppose sites like this and anything else of an adult nature on the internet, after all "we must err on the side of children".  We shouldn't allow BDSM books to be sold in bookstores because "we must err on the side of children" 

Rapists use penisis to rape women, we should cut off penises to prevent rape.  I mean "we must err on the side of children"  People like you really REALLY scare me.

I say that as a left wing liberal with socialist leanings that would terrify many here.

Don`t be ridiculous.My comment was in regards to whether kids and guns are good idea,especially hand guns.They`re not.I wasn`t calling for a law or restrictions.I was saying that we have to err on the side of safety,when it comes to kids handling guns.That`s all,hot head.

Your slippery slope argument is bogus.When there is a question,we always err on the side of children`s safety.Cut someone`s dick off,lol,give me a break..........

In the case of seat belts,as an adult,you can scoff all you want,and risk a ticket.But with a child in the car,you better strap them in(car child seat,seat belt,etc)or your ass is grass if they should get hurt.The laws to protect kids, supersede your right to be a scoff law.As the adult ,your responsibility to  keep them safe is greater then your rights.

Are you going to suggest that making a law like that one(to protect kids),is somehow infringing on your rights?

Just look at these kids.How much you wanna bet their parents got them the pistol?

http://www.videovat.com/videos/468/gun-safety-shoots-foot.aspx

I'm seriously doubting the authenticity of that video. He asks "Whose handgun is this?" and then the rest of it just seems set it up for the ending. After saying "It's allright, dude." He 'accidentally' pulls the trigger on a double action? Do you realize how hard that would be to do accidentally? If you tried to lift that gun up out of your pocket by only the trigger, the weight of the gun wouldn't be enough to do it. You would have to SQUEEZE the trigger. What would the ground look like all around his foot? Stuff would still be falling out of the air and there'd be a dust cloud. I believe you're falling for something. I wouldn't be surprised if that was an air pistol.

Gun control laws might work IF you had a time machine and could go back to the day the first gun was invented. I think this is the difference between idealism and realism. Gun control laws might "feel good" to you, but they won't solve the problem. If you can't remove them from society, I don't think there's a substitute for demonstrating to children exactly what a gun can do so they know when they come across one. I think just hearing and feeling the concussion from one going off does a lot to get the point across.

At least by invoking children, and assuming that you would want whatever would provide the best net saving of human life, you must be coming around to supporting more concealed carry laws being voted in!

Nope,that was real. The guy,who was a DEA agent,had the vid leaked to Youtube by his co-workers,while this guy was truing to restore his good name.He ended up leaving the agency.

Now there`s guy,who was trained,and trained some more.
Still,even with all his training,he fucks up.Thank god that shoot didn`t rickashay of the masonry floor into the crowd of kids.
A sworn officer of the law,certified and bona fide,and still he makes a bad mistake.Mis-fires,forgotten rounds in the chamber,fuck ups happen all the time.Anyone here who owns,knows that.

To say you`re not taking an extra risk around children,when handling guns is silly.To down play that risk is even sillier.

It`s funny how people go postal,for just suggesting that they be careful with their children and guns.

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ORIGINAL: BUW4you

ya know...england has a law about the right to keep and bear arms....and they are talking about family devices and coat of arms

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ORIGINAL: ChallengeMe

This nation was founded solidly on one principal above all others...the government must be forced to fear and respect the governed people, instead of the other way around.

Now, the constitution was not written by morons, no matter what we might like to think.

It is very very clear when it says "the people", "the states", "the federal government" "the army" "naval forces" et-cetera.

The 2nd does not say "the army", it does not say "the states" it does not even say that "the militia" are allowed to keep and bear arms.

Just like the first amendment applies not to the state censorship bureau, but to individual citizens, the second also specifically states that the people have the right.

And the people who wrote the constitution sepcifically stated time and time again, that armies of professional soldiers were poison to democracy.

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Until you can iliminate ignorance,we have to err on the side of children.

Oh what evil stems from that sentiment.  I take it you oppose sites like this and anything else of an adult nature on the internet, after all "we must err on the side of children".  We shouldn't allow BDSM books to be sold in bookstores because "we must err on the side of children" 

Rapists use penisis to rape women, we should cut off penises to prevent rape.  I mean "we must err on the side of children"  People like you really REALLY scare me.

I say that as a left wing liberal with socialist leanings that would terrify many here.

Don`t be ridiculous.My comment was in regards to whether kids and guns are good idea,especially hand guns.They`re not.I wasn`t calling for a law or restrictions.I was saying that we have to err on the side of safety,when it comes to kids handling guns.That`s all,hot head.

Your slippery slope argument is bogus.When there is a question,we always err on the side of children`s safety.Cut someone`s dick off,lol,give me a break..........

In the case of seat belts,as an adult,you can scoff all you want,and risk a ticket.But with a child in the car,you better strap them in(car child seat,seat belt,etc)or your ass is grass if they should get hurt.The laws to protect kids, supersede your right to be a scoff law.As the adult ,your responsibility to  keep them safe is greater then your rights.

Are you going to suggest that making a law like that one(to protect kids),is somehow infringing on your rights?

Just look at these kids.How much you wanna bet their parents got them the pistol?

http://www.videovat.com/videos/468/gun-safety-shoots-foot.aspx

I'm seriously doubting the authenticity of that video. He asks "Whose handgun is this?" and then the rest of it just seems set it up for the ending. After saying "It's allright, dude." He 'accidentally' pulls the trigger on a double action? Do you realize how hard that would be to do accidentally? If you tried to lift that gun up out of your pocket by only the trigger, the weight of the gun wouldn't be enough to do it. You would have to SQUEEZE the trigger. What would the ground look like all around his foot? Stuff would still be falling out of the air and there'd be a dust cloud. I believe you're falling for something. I wouldn't be surprised if that was an air pistol.

Gun control laws might work IF you had a time machine and could go back to the day the first gun was invented. I think this is the difference between idealism and realism. Gun control laws might "feel good" to you, but they won't solve the problem. If you can't remove them from society, I don't think there's a substitute for demonstrating to children exactly what a gun can do so they know when they come across one. I think just hearing and feeling the concussion from one going off does a lot to get the point across.

At least by invoking children, and assuming that you would want whatever would provide the best net saving of human life, you must be coming around to supporting more concealed carry laws being voted in!

Nope,that was real. The guy,who was a DEA agent,had the vid leaked to Youtube by his co-workers,while this guy was truing to restore his good name.He ended up leaving the agency.

Now there`s guy,who was trained,and trained some more.
Still,even with all his training,he fucks up.Thank god that shoot didn`t rickashay of the masonry floor into the crowd of kids.
A sworn officer of the law,certified and bona fide,and still he makes a bad mistake.Mis-fires,forgotten rounds in the chamber,fuck ups happen all the time.Anyone here who owns,knows that.

To say you`re not taking an extra risk around children,when handling guns is silly.To down play that risk is even sillier.

It`s funny how people go postal,for just suggesting that they be careful with their children and guns.

You're confusing your posts. The link above is of the one you posted of someone supposedly shooting themselves in the foot and, as I said, it looks completely bogus to me.

The fact that accidental shootings will happen does not erase the fact that intentional shootings go down where concealed carry is voted in, again, just like crime and murder rates in Australia went through the roof when they rounded up the "legal" guns.

I'm not going to lower myself by saying that your views or beliefs are "silly" or otherwise.

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GhitaAmati:   Not too long ago my Sir got into an argument with a lady on the side of "guns kill people". He took his pistol out of the glove compartment, unloaded the weapon and removed the slide. Laid all peices down on the tailgate of his truck. Stood there, pointed his finger at the weapon and shouted "kill". Needless to say, nothing happened.

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ORIGINAL: b12345

Owner 59,

Watch the video in your post.  It is not the famous DEA agent who shot himself in the leg; it is a different video, which appears to me to be fake, and not of police. 

Also you mention handling guns around children as being risky, which to some degree is true, but so are lots of activities, it is less far less risky than allowing kids to ride dirt bikes, ATVs, or horses. Parents owning guns is less risky for children than having a swimming pool or lake.  Also playing football brings with it a significant amount of risk of spine trauma.  Driving is a rather dangerous endeavor, yet we drive kids all kinds of places.  Come to think of it most things have some level of risk associated with them.  We have to make choices that weigh the risks and rewards.  If we didn’t we would just have to leave all the children confined in a house that was padded in foam, but then we risk causing them psychological harm.  

Firearms and kids with proper supervision and training really is not very risky, and for many the joy and rewards of shooting out-weigh the risk.  Just the same as for many the joys and rewards of allowing their child to ride a horse out-weighs the risks. 

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Ever notice that the country boys with the shotgun in the rear window of their truck, never get cut off or flipped the bird?

Orion

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ORIGINAL: BUW4you

ya know...england has a law about the right to keep and bear arms....and they are talking about family devices and coat of arms

A friend of mine in England told me what he had to do in order to get the permit to keep a pistol in his home. The gun has to be locked in a box that's attached to a wall the opposite side of the room from his bed. So, if you have an intruder, you have to ask them to give you a minute? They also said in order to get the permit you have to agree to the condition that they can come in at any time to check to see if that's where your gun is.

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Ever notice that the country boys with the shotgun in the rear window of their truck, never get cut off or flipped the bird?

Orion

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ORIGINAL: luckydog1

Owner 59 seems to think that the Constitution gives the right to "Bare arms"....it says Bear.  I assume that Owner 59 thinks the 2nd amendmant give peopel the right to wear short sleeve t shirts, exposing (bearing) thier arms.

What an interesting reading of the Constitution.  Owner59, what could you possibly think the 2nd amendmant means?  Other than the right of people to keep and bear weopons?

wow lg, you caught me w/ a mis-spelling.I need a moment to recover from that devastating body blow.<snickers>
Well ,you need a win now and then,right?

The documents said arms.It didn`t say firearms.

Types of arms:a pike,a sword,a club or mace,a knife,a sling shot(remember David & Goliath?),axe or tomahawk,etc.
All deadly weapons and guaranteed, under the constitution.

If the document said firearms,there would be no debate about right to own a gun.

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

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Until you can iliminate ignorance,we have to err on the side of children.

Oh what evil stems from that sentiment.  I take it you oppose sites like this and anything else of an adult nature on the internet, after all "we must err on the side of children".  We shouldn't allow BDSM books to be sold in bookstores because "we must err on the side of children" 

Rapists use penisis to rape women, we should cut off penises to prevent rape.  I mean "we must err on the side of children"  People like you really REALLY scare me.

I say that as a left wing liberal with socialist leanings that would terrify many here.

Don`t be ridiculous.My comment was in regards to whether kids and guns are good idea,especially hand guns.They`re not.I wasn`t calling for a law or restrictions.I was saying that we have to err on the side of safety,when it comes to kids handling guns.That`s all,hot head.

Your slippery slope argument is bogus.When there is a question,we always err on the side of children`s safety.Cut someone`s dick off,lol,give me a break..........

In the case of seat belts,as an adult,you can scoff all you want,and risk a ticket.But with a child in the car,you better strap them in(car child seat,seat belt,etc)or your ass is grass if they should get hurt.The laws to protect kids, supersede your right to be a scoff law.As the adult ,your responsibility to  keep them safe is greater then your rights.

Are you going to suggest that making a law like that one(to protect kids),is somehow infringing on your rights?

Just look at these kids.How much you wanna bet their parents got them the pistol?

http://www.videovat.com/videos/468/gun-safety-shoots-foot.aspx

I'm seriously doubting the authenticity of that video. He asks "Whose handgun is this?" and then the rest of it just seems set it up for the ending. After saying "It's allright, dude." He 'accidentally' pulls the trigger on a double action? Do you realize how hard that would be to do accidentally? If you tried to lift that gun up out of your pocket by only the trigger, the weight of the gun wouldn't be enough to do it. You would have to SQUEEZE the trigger. What would the ground look like all around his foot? Stuff would still be falling out of the air and there'd be a dust cloud. I believe you're falling for something. I wouldn't be surprised if that was an air pistol.

Gun control laws might work IF you had a time machine and could go back to the day the first gun was invented. I think this is the difference between idealism and realism. Gun control laws might "feel good" to you, but they won't solve the problem. If you can't remove them from society, I don't think there's a substitute for demonstrating to children exactly what a gun can do so they know when they come across one. I think just hearing and feeling the concussion from one going off does a lot to get the point across.

At least by invoking children, and assuming that you would want whatever would provide the best net saving of human life, you must be coming around to supporting more concealed carry laws being voted in!

Nope,that was real. The guy,who was a DEA agent,had the vid leaked to Youtube by his co-workers,while this guy was truing to restore his good name.He ended up leaving the agency.

Now there`s guy,who was trained,and trained some more.
Still,even with all his training,he fucks up.Thank god that shoot didn`t rickashay of the masonry floor into the crowd of kids.
A sworn officer of the law,certified and bona fide,and still he makes a bad mistake.Mis-fires,forgotten rounds in the chamber,fuck ups happen all the time.Anyone here who owns,knows that.

To say you`re not taking an extra risk around children,when handling guns is silly.To down play that risk is even sillier.

It`s funny how people go postal,for just suggesting that they be careful with their children and guns.

You're confusing your posts. The link above is of the one you posted of someone supposedly shooting themselves in the foot and, as I said, it looks completely bogus to me.

The fact that accidental shootings will happen does not erase the fact that intentional shootings go down where concealed carry is voted in, again, just like crime and murder rates in Australia went through the roof when they rounded up the "legal" guns.

I'm not going to lower myself by saying that your views or beliefs are "silly" or otherwise.

Sorry hone,I think you`re confused.Go back over the posts.

Yes I did post the link,and no ,it`s not  fake or staged .It was home vid, of a cop fucking up.He lost his job over it,and he did shot himself.Sorry.Even if you thought it was real,you wouldn`t care.It could never happen to you or your loved ones,right?.

Crime reduction is one part of the equation,and so are accidental deaths and maiming.You can`t divorce the two.

I suspect the NRAers here, are getting their "facts" ,....from the NRA magazines.We know how impartial and honest they are<said sarcastically>

And again.handling loaded guns around children, is risky.There`s no arguing that.

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

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Ever notice that the country boys with the shotgun in the rear window of their truck, never get cut off or flipped the bird?

Orion

Unless,..... it`s  country boys with the shotgun in the rear window of their truck ,fliping you off.

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GhitaAmati:   Not too long ago my Sir got into an argument with a lady on the side of "guns kill people". He took his pistol out of the glove compartment, unloaded the weapon and removed the slide. Laid all peices down on the tailgate of his truck. Stood there, pointed his finger at the weapon and shouted "kill". Needless to say, nothing happened.

I think I'd like your Sir.

E