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RE: Domination for money - 8/9/2007 8:06:24 PM   
awmslave


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I agree, there is sometimes confusing  and deceptive advertising pro dommes create when posting their ads in relationship oriented websites like "collarme".  I guess one reason for this is collarme specifically instructs not to put these ads here. Pro domination is a form of adult entertainment. If you can afford to buy it there is nothing wrong.  Pro-dommes are diverse group of individuals. I know  personally several pro mistresses. Some of them hate their work, some are dominant or sadists by nature. Onece again, it is useful not to confuse pro domination and BDSM lifestyle issues: they are different things.

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RE: Domination for money - 8/9/2007 8:19:16 PM   
MzMia


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I love looking and reading profiles, all the profiles on here.
I have been a member of CollarMe for 3 years, and I have to say that
I have never seen as many Professional Dominants on here as I see now.
 
If I were to take a guess, I would say about 75% appear to be Professionals.
My take on it, is that it is a free site and gaining popularity so it is just a great
place for them to hang out.
 
The point is, it is a free site so that everyone that is interested in this lifestyle for
whatever reason is welcome to come here.

Now all we need is more Professional submissives.


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RE: Domination for money - 8/9/2007 8:19:49 PM   
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Depending on whether or not i was looking for a pro, i might actually check the pro button on the search side of the site.  Some areas, pros are hard to find, and i have sessioned with them before.  It was a pro who taught me that when the cane hurts, there's no need to whine--it only means it's working, just like when you pour alcohol on a cut :)

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RE: Domination for money - 8/9/2007 8:50:51 PM   
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I agree with MzMia, I see this site, which is free, as a contact point for anyone who has an interest, desire to know more, or looking for a relationship to enter. Personally, the existance of Pro Domme's on this site has zero affect on me, in fact I wouldn't have known of it if it weren't for the posts written to complain about it. Possibly because I am a female looking for a male, duh, and also possibly because I believe in everyones right to have consensual relationships, no matter what their kink is, if they are lucky enough to find their match.

I enjoy the variety here, people from different countries and kinks communicating, sometimes maturely, sometimes not. I have learnt many new things and concepts that living geographically isolated from others in the lifestyle, I would not have. This site fills part of my need for interaction, and so it should for everyone. Wherever they are coming from, submissives, dominants, professional or not, newbies and olbies alike.

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RE: Domination for money - 8/9/2007 9:52:50 PM   
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>Personally, the existance of Pro Domme's on this site has zero affect on me,
>in fact I wouldn't have known of it if it weren't for the posts written to complain
>about it.

Let's me just claify one thing. No one has cimplained about thet fact that they are here. But many has said that it would be nice to be able to filter them out,as pros are not what they are looking for.

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RE: Domination for money - 8/10/2007 3:01:54 AM   
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As I am new to CM and exist as a Lifestyle and Pro Domina I have had what is essentially a one on one version of this discussion with several subs. Sometimes thier intent seems to be to manipulate me into "proving" I am a real Domina! Or this is just a common "3p" (Personal Pet Peeve) seen represented in this thread. Below is an email exchange that occured today!

Warning LONG POST!

My comments are in BOLD and this will read as an inline email reply;

With 3 careers, 2 collars out, and my BDSM classes (I teach and will have seminar at Folsom this year) I do ask favour. I do this to support my fetish needs. (I just bought this amazing floor length under bust, leather corset skirt!) as it costs for me to be well fashioned. I am not "pro" just for the earnings, but some compensation for my expenses is reasonable. I don't see why I should pay for all the costs without assistance. In a more conventional relationship a "couple" would share costs, bills, or at least I would be gifted especially lingerie, and B/D goods.

I don't have a better alternative, what would you suggest? I fear that money is obfuscating the scene, which is strange as everything else is negotiated. There should not be a stigma, but that's my opinion. I assume some Pro (and non pro) dommes are just acting. I assure you I am real. I am respected in the WIITWD community, an invited "featured" guest at events, and a valued mentor.

I end up feeling that I justify the tribute/donation. If I didn't ask for resources I would receive none. SO, if you still think that it's empty, or hollow then we both suffer as a result of assumption, or RL negative experience. Too bad.


sub
When money is exchanged, it changes the dynamic. If
not for you then at least for me. I keep hoping,
perhaps unrealistically, that I will someday find a
partner with a strong dominant energy that resonates
with some if not all the elements that I feel I need
in a relationship that mixes true Ds with bdsm play.
Of course, what you say about a couple sharing
expenses is certainly true. Its also true that few
first dates that lead to a commited relationship start
with the exchange of cash. I pretty much always pay
for dinner, drinks, the movie, etc. But I do not lay
down on evelope filled with cash.

Domina
Money is just one commodity, If you place a stigma on exchanging commodities realize that you selected that perception and you have a choice. Many subs enjoy paying for assorted reasons, for others it's neither positive or negative. Cash flow varies, as does the emotional vesting every individual experiences. I don't judge, you know your self and finances and I trust you will act accordingly. Synopses, it's your issue not mine!


sub
I do not judge pro dommes and in fact have been to
pros on a number of occasions. Probably if I had
infinite resources I would go more often and for
longer. I have a list of pros in the area, and now and
then I do go for a session. So I can definitely say
that the exchange of money changes things at least
from my vantage point.

Domina
I am acquainted with a few Pro Dungeons, and some individuals that have or currently offer sessions. I avail myself of Dungeon space from time to time. As you said, you chose to perceive that the "cash" taints the experience. It's your thinking, and as Apple says.."Think Different ®" or not, it's that simple.

I am also compensated for the educational seminars or classes I offer, does paying diminish the value? Not at all, in fact there's an econmic princeple called "implied value". So, what's the difference? I fulfill in both cases and am valued. Some people go to a library, others just buy a book. In both cases that book was purchased, direclty or indereclty. One is not better than the other, they are just different with unique advantages and disadvantages.


sub
If you are doing your pro sessions to add to your
income stream, then i fully understand that. However,
if you have needs that are not being met with your
collared subs, then I suggest that finding someone who
can help you meet those needs should be motivation
enough.

Domina
Well, honestly I am emotionally involved with these men, and while it's divulging personal information, they are not able to contribute as much as we'd like to my expenses relating to lifestyle. I would not choose a relationship based on how much money is available. For someone who has a stigma about donations to a Domme I find it odd you expect me to be motivated to pick affluent lovers/subs! In other respects they meet or exceed my needs. As a Dom I choose to seek other scenes to compliment my needs and grow as a top.


sub
I am curious about something. With your collared subs,
why should it matter to you if they do not enjoy GS
and FE? Should they not simply submit to it because
they are collared? Is it important to you that your
sub is enjoying or relishing the activity? If it is,
then I can say that i do truly relish those
activities. There are others aspects of Ds that I do
not relish. For example, i do not enjoy corporal
impact. That is to say, it is not a turn on. However,
in a Ds context, i do feel its important to be
punsihed or merely submit to impact to satisfy sadism
in my Domme. Just know I won't "enjoy" it.

Domina
IMHO a good Domme discusses and respects established limits. I realize the stereotypical attitude of "do anything tops" I choose to dismiss that archetype. If these my subs don't find any element of GS (et al) of interest, fine I have a plethora of talents/interests that will more than suffice. I am not impressed by the masochistic "Heartless Bitches" who run a script with no regard to a healthy dynamic. So, yes I do prefer my subs enjoy the exchange on *some* level.

Also, I find it stimulating to wait and avail myself to a scene that fulfills my desires, such as GS. I am sure you have heard that variety is the spice of life. I pursue experiences with other submissives for my own enjoyment, period.


Again this smacks of justifcation, which I do only in the name of ensuring my point of view is known. At this time I know I am not looking to "hard sell" myself. The value of the time, and thought to communicate can and will speak to my integrity, my photo's to my desirability, and my predilections are clearly stated. Either you want to submit knowing my wants and needs, or you don't.





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RE: Domination for money - 8/10/2007 4:27:21 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: fungasm

quote:

ORIGINAL: smoothcoco

Why not a book store?? one of my last Fem Dom's picked me out of a Barnes and Noble... it can happen



Than you were very lucky.  Statistically speaking, it's a challenge.  


I don't think that lucky. I met Valyraen at a college party and most d/s couples I know met in the real world through classes, through friends and random meets. Course the odds of randomly meeting someone and having them work out as a great relationship are low, but I don't think any lower for d/s then for vanilla.

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RE: Domination for money - 8/10/2007 4:30:32 AM   
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~Fast Reply~

Box or no box?

Can't say I care either way. If you are so troubled by being bogged down by all those pro-domme profiles, remember what you paid for to use collarme and consider upgrading to a different personals site who does filter more.

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RE: Domination for money - 8/11/2007 3:59:26 AM   
MasterLDesade


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awmslave....I don't confuse Pro-Domination and Lifestlye Issues . Both harmoniously work together every day for myself and my Pro-Domm wife all our sub's and slaves comercial and personal know and see no different and they are not different issues at all  Pro and Life .
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RE: Domination for money - 8/11/2007 7:57:46 AM   
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ok i see this crop  up as of late DOM DOMME Couples  Another change on the way of the lifestyle it was not till give years ago that it started to become more apparent for some reason another twist on ds

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RE: Domination for money - 8/11/2007 12:19:45 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Unfortunately, I can't dom women for money because I'd end up in Hillary Clinton's little black book, and I just can't get involved in politics.

High-profile career and all that.


OMG..... Hillary has a black book? What is that?

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RE: Domination for money - 8/11/2007 12:21:37 PM   
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I have sometimes wished there were more male Dominants willing to Dominate a female for money. There have been times when I've not wanted to become committed to a relationship, and just felt like being Dominated.

Where are all of the male ProDoms? I am completely serious in asking this question.

- Susan

< Message edited by SusanofO -- 8/11/2007 12:22:49 PM >


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RE: Domination for money - 8/11/2007 12:30:30 PM   
Master96


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quote:

ORIGINAL: SusanofO

I have sometimes wished there were more male Dominants willing to Dominate a female for money. There have been times when I've not wanted to become committed to a relationship, and just felt like being Dominated.

Where are all of the male ProDoms? I am completely serious in asking this question.

- Susan


To be honest, I'm thinking about being ProDom.... I always knew that there are submissive ladies like you. So I'm joining you by asking another question.. where are all the women who want/need ProDoms?

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quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

Understand that actions will always speak louder than words.


Before you speak, ask yourself..
Is it kind? Is it true? Is it necessary?
Does it improve upon the silence? - Sai Baba

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RE: Domination for money - 8/11/2007 1:44:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SusanofO

I have sometimes wished there were more male Dominants willing to Dominate a female for money. There have been times when I've not wanted to become committed to a relationship, and just felt like being Dominated.

Where are all of the male ProDoms? I am completely serious in asking this question.

- Susan


For that matter, where are the pro male subs?!

I think maybe going into the gay leather community would be the answer for both.

Akasha


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RE: Domination for money - 8/11/2007 1:48:28 PM   
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Master96: They've given up finding any in proximity to them (or even far many who are located far away). A quick search of the "Professional Services" section here at CM, for instance, will reveal hundreds of ProDommes (female) and maybe a handful (3 or 4) ProDoms(males).

I think many women probably just figure it's a lost cause. Maybe much more publicity as far as more ProDoms (males) being in existence will improve their outlook, and you'll see more females willing to use them. But first, they have to believe they exist, IMO.

Aakasha: Ditto for Prosubs (male). Maybe going to the gay community is a good idea. But I do wish there were more hetero male ProDoms (and Prosubs maybe, too). Not that I am against homosexuals, but I'm hetero, and as far as interactions in BDSM, I kind of like a hetero male (but I think gay men are fine, even great, as friends). But in a pinch, that is probably an okay idea (even for me).

- Susan

< Message edited by SusanofO -- 8/11/2007 1:53:39 PM >


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RE: Domination for money - 8/11/2007 3:34:23 PM   
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I have chit chatted.. played with and enjoyed several submissive men out here....  many for free..oh my yes.. emails back and forth for the hell of it..when the mood has hit me... hmmm

My profile is perfect and leaves no questions..nothing to question.. ......copy and paste my instructions only if you understand...   if this doesnt work for you then dont write me !!! Once again my time is so fucking valuable..you think yours is too..but to me it is not until I go into an association with you....   to provide energy to 5 curious subs a day is too much time ...and what is in that for me??

oh this is a tired worn out topic..  I know...- having never even spoken to you I know you feel me.. ""that small group""....dommes smiling with me.."then why are you posting.??."  just today once again this topic always gets me activated a pinch.. just a pinch...

paying me up front to enter into my life--oh yeah.... just wait till I feel desire to see you..  that is why when I decide I want a submissive to play with me face to face...(again most of the time)  after his fbi clearance........................   he has to have already without even really knowing that he has been tested..  be able to afford me and that level of interaction......... few do..but I dont have time for anything else..

The hotel and air fare is on him..I will not visit a motel..for this.....  the dinners and fun times on him.. my outfits and shoes...for all my moods and toys on him..  the paying for all that is disrupted in my life ... pet care.. or what ever on him....... hmm what else.. --what ever that is on him..
 
I follow up with sincere attachment to what took place as joyful after care.. or continued with what took me there in the first place with that sub.... and he cant wait to do face time again..but usually must wait for common sense reasons.... and more important than that, I dont get with that sub again until a few months gone by..MY complex reasons..

pay to play oh yes....................   damit yes !!
 

 



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RE: Domination for money - 8/11/2007 3:52:29 PM   
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actually-you could get a Dom to pay YOU to be a casual sub.  Like it or not-men pay for sexual activity, women don't have to and will not for the most part.  if there was a market for it-there would be pro Doms out the wazoo-instead they pretend they have ethics and a higher standard.  God if I had a dime for every man who told me if he had a pussy, he would be rich, I'd be rich!

One of my favorite conversations here was with a potential sub who was not particularly interesting to me but I sent him my web site info to see if it would go anywhere-I have been wrong before, he sent me a reply that he was SHOCKED I am a pro-he goes more and I quote"for the girl next door type."  I ask you-look at my pic, do you see the the girl next door?  Maybe it was the dildo collection and toilet seat that confused him, not sure but I got a laugh out of that.




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RE: Domination for money - 8/11/2007 4:13:49 PM   
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Great idea and alot of nice input people. But I think everybody is missing the main-point here. This is a FREE SITE. Am I correct here? Have I missed something?
So why should people that make money off of not quite sexual encounters; be on here? If they make so much money; them get a website. I can understand if they are pro's and just come here for intellectual discourse. But, this is a FREE SITE. Don't advertise.
I have nothing against people making a living as best as they can in this economy we all live in. You have to use all your talents to survive. There are real people on here, trying to meet somebody of like mind. In this crazy world we live in.
That's my say.

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RE: Domination for money - 8/11/2007 6:07:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: smoothcoco

Why not a book store?? one of my last Fem Dom's picked me out of a Barnes and Noble... it can happen



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RE: Domination for money - 8/11/2007 6:36:57 PM   
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Latexbaby in a Professional sense i would Refuse to see you for a session and i would recommend a therapy session yesterday for you , for the obvious reason's  .

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