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RE: Domination for money - 8/11/2007 6:39:33 PM   
littlesarbonn


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Pro dominants on the boards don't bother me a bit. They don't bother me in profiles. But I will admit to a special fetish of mine that has grown lately, and that's my desire to read profiles of women who complain in their journals about how they are professional dominants and they can't stand how the men who contact them take offense to it. What I usually discover is that the woman appears VERY NEW at being a "pro dominant", so she takes great offense at the offense that the submissives take, which to me is like handing me a bucket of popcorn and telling me the previews are starting.

Now, for my actual content comment. What I think I've started seeing is something that is completely inherent on Collarme, and that's the propensity of wannabe professional dominants to think that a profile on collarme is actually the same as hanging out their shingle. In so many cases, I don't believe most of them have ever done an actual pro dominant session, but they are casting out the net in hopes of catching a potential client. I was reading one profile today from a very, very young woman who took great offense at the offense the men were taking at how she is a professional. Reading through her profile, you'd never know she was, so I kind of got the impression I could figure out exactly when the offensive part of that conversation started, as her profile states that she's looking for a submissive man in her life, and then her journal entries are all about how submissives are so fake because once she tells them about the "tribute", they get upset.

Anyway, as I was saying, it's almost become a sport to watch the banterings back and forth about the whole "professional" thing. Personally, I don't care, but when it provides more drama than I can get on SciFi's action Fridays, then I have to opt for the drama.


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RE: Domination for money - 8/12/2007 10:19:40 AM   
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Hey now! Some of My best friends are Pros....

Enjoy your wonder-filled day

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RE: Domination for money - 8/12/2007 9:25:19 PM   
e01n


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Actually, I'm much in favor. Pros have actually provided me with amazing pieces of my education.

For example, I once had the typical HNG view of sex as zenith of existence. And frankly, I did stupid things in the pursuit of female companionship. It wasn't until I paid someone to perform a sexual act that I realized that sex is often *just* a commodity, like any other. And the experience was repeated for various other things, including paying for domination and submission. And the results were the same: I learned what was real and what was commodity and how the two almost never mix.

Would I pay a visit to my local dominatrix? Probably not, given who she is and what she's into. But is it good to have that option? Absolutely.

And yes, I support the decriminalization of sex care workers in America.

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RE: Domination for money - 8/12/2007 10:41:06 PM   
MstrssScarlet


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressR526

I really would love the option of checking a box to state that I am offering professional domme services.  I make it clear within the first few lines of my profile what I am about.  I have only had a couple people write me very negatively telling me off for sullying D/s and bdsm.  I don't see why it bothers them so much, but it did... I tend to follow the mindset that if it is safe, sane, and consensual, I could care less what you do with another.

If you could set your options to bring up pros or not, then nobody has to see what they don't want to see.

I try to give my clients the experience they desire.  I do interact via instant messenger and alwasy begin and end sessions with a quick hug.  This is NOT for everyone, but it is how I do it.  I think this eases the anxiety just a little and increases the overall comfort level.

My feelings are this:  Most of my clients are either married and wanting to stay that way--- as someone else said, I provide a means for them to indulge in their desires without shaking up their homelife.  I have no desire to cause any drama as that would interfere with my goal of making money.  More than that though, I do not wish to hurt anyone (and spankings don't count!!)

I feel regular clients are better than occasional ones, so I choose to set my rates lower than some. 

Other clients of mine would LOVE to have a personal relationship with their very own Domme and when they find Her, they will stop seeing me.  I am certainly not taking anyone's place.  There have been a small number who wanted to see if this was for them... or wanted me to help teach them.  Whatever their reasons, they sought me out. 

Having a search feature would probably give me more exposure to those who desire my services which would benefit me AND would help reduce the number of 'ads' that people who do not desire such services have to weed through.  I LOVE the idea.

Mistress R


DITTO!!  to your whole post except for the instant messenger.  That whole thing was starting to take up waaaay too much time.  I don't start with a hug, but my clients always tell me I'm easy to talk to and get comfortable with (before and after the session of course).  I also try to help people looking for LTRs when possible if that's what they're really searching for.  I let them know where the local munches, sloshes, and parties are.  I've even gone to a couple of them with some subs who just couldn't bring themselves to go it alone.  No charge for that by the way.  More and more I'm finding myself being asked for advice at parties because "I seem to be the most experienced or most sane one there".  No charge for that either.

If I were to tick off the box, I would have to create two separate profiles because I'm not in here just as a pro domme, although that's the first thing I mention so no one feels they were 'tricked' into reading my profile.  I'm also looking for a particular kind of submissive and that's for my personal life.

Mistress Scarlet

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RE: Domination for money - 8/17/2007 5:53:35 PM   
RWAble


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Good observation. What more can I say.
quote:

ORIGINAL: littlesarbonn

Pro dominants on the boards don't bother me a bit. They don't bother me in profiles. But I will admit to a special fetish of mine that has grown lately, and that's my desire to read profiles of women who complain in their journals about how they are professional dominants and they can't stand how the men who contact them take offense to it. What I usually discover is that the woman appears VERY NEW at being a "pro dominant", so she takes great offense at the offense that the submissives take, which to me is like handing me a bucket of popcorn and telling me the previews are starting.

Now, for my actual content comment. What I think I've started seeing is something that is completely inherent on Collarme, and that's the propensity of wannabe professional dominants to think that a profile on collarme is actually the same as hanging out their shingle. In so many cases, I don't believe most of them have ever done an actual pro dominant session, but they are casting out the net in hopes of catching a potential client. I was reading one profile today from a very, very young woman who took great offense at the offense the men were taking at how she is a professional. Reading through her profile, you'd never know she was, so I kind of got the impression I could figure out exactly when the offensive part of that conversation started, as her profile states that she's looking for a submissive man in her life, and then her journal entries are all about how submissives are so fake because once she tells them about the "tribute", they get upset.

Anyway, as I was saying, it's almost become a sport to watch the banterings back and forth about the whole "professional" thing. Personally, I don't care, but when it provides more drama than I can get on SciFi's action Fridays, then I have to opt for the drama.



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RE: Domination for money - 8/17/2007 8:02:24 PM   
MizzElle


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I feel very much the same, what kind of fetishes, can I really take pleasure in thousands of miles away? Very few, I 'm very tactile, so it's difficult to enjoy many things through a screen only. Make it worth my while, is what I say.
quote:

ORIGINAL: LdyScarletDomina

I'm sure my opinion will be unpopular as well.

Currently I am on collarme seeking a personal 24/7 slave. 

In the past I have been both a Pro and a lifestyle Domme.  Different needs are filled by each for both the submissive and the Domme.  MHOO314 nailed my past situations very sucinctly, it is an opportunity to make money in a way that I can provide as a single parent and - being realistic - it fills a need.  If there wasn't a need for Pro-Domme's, there wouldn't be such a market for it. 

I do keep a notice in my journal that the only online training that interests me must have a form of tribute.  But I HATE online domination, so it seems fair that if I am spending my time I should be re-imbursted for it.  there have also been the times that I have emphatically NOT been interested in a personal relationship with a submissive that would not take no for an answer.  In that case, I have said I would take that person as a tribute submissive and they were happy. 

But for the most part, IMHO if something - Golden showers, caning, electric play, fire play, diaper play, pro-dommes - isn't for you, you have the absolutely wonderful right in this lifestyle to go "hmm, nope, not my thing." and move on.  The number one reason I LOVE this lifestyle is that as long as its consentual, there is the universal concept of "accept even if you don't understand".  or at least there was when I first came into BDSM.  My Mentor told me - if you cannot be tolerant, BDSM is not the place for you.

One more quick ps.  Collar me DOES have a place where professionals can advertise.  Its on the message boards under professional services. 

Lady Scarlet

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RE: Domination for money - 10/5/2007 7:44:15 PM   
SunshineGypsy


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"Now all we need is more Professional submissives. "

right here, baby...  *wink*

I try to be upfront about it on my profile. I use collarme as kind of a resume for both my personal and professional contacts.  I find that the people who are willing to play with me publicly are NOT the same ones who have a reason to pay, such as privacy concerns.  

I think the check box would be groovy though.  It would speed things up either way.

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RE: Domination for money - 10/5/2007 7:47:28 PM   
DocRudy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: subspoon

(2) i _chose_ to consider inter-human relations as something too sacred to be a subject for money.


I found this rather humorous, namely because there's a good deal of "inter-human relations" that would never get done if they weren't for people being paid, hehe.

Though I think I know what you meant to say.

-DR

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RE: Domination for money - 10/5/2007 7:50:49 PM   
faerielights


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I was just thinking that too, DocRudy!

If people never paid for any interhuman relations, we'd back back on the barter system I guess.

But I think they meant something different. :)

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RE: Domination for money - 10/5/2007 10:37:39 PM   
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And some marriages are for?

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RE: Domination for money - 10/6/2007 10:32:08 AM   
sirguym


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The trouble with such a tick box is that sorting out just who is a Professional pro-Domme, who's a hobby-Domme and who isn't either.

And who here is cruising for business and who just happens to earn their living that way, but seeking enlightenment (or maybe spreading some around, they have the experience) on collarme

Once you've read a few profiles, it ought to be damn well obvious who directly expects money and who doesn't.

If you ask straight off you'll always get a straight answer, one way or the other, so what would be the point?

Except to allow the judgemental to point fingers and further divide our community.

Keep everything inclusive, don't make needless barriers and  distinctions when almost everything is in a spectrum with no clear divides.

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