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Your Core - 7/2/2005 2:12:32 PM   
Faramir


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This is from something I wrote recently:

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“Baby?” I asked her as she licked my dick and smeared her saliva over her face with my it, eyes closed almost in rapture. Eyes still closed she answered her Daddy. “Baby," I said, " I need to hurt your cunt now. You’ve been such a dirty little slut that you need to be punished now.” Her eyes opened – she looked up at me. Her eyes shone bright – bright with some fear, lust, the raw desire that comes when I touch the core of our sexuality.

That core is this: to make her suffer and have her accept that suffering with love and gratitude. Every couple in D/s and SM has their own symbology of suffering and power. For one couple it might be domestic violence – him punching her out. For another, it might be stylized torture: a rack, St Andrew’s Cross, flogging and singe tails. For us it is simple, brutal punishment of her sex. The core for us is for me to whip her cunt with my belt until she is in agony, incoherent, sobbing and shaking in pain and the emotional release that comes with her punishment. Her sex: the soft, vulnerable place that in vanilla couples is treated with gentle reverence is in our relationship the way I can hurt her that blasts open her doors and makes her open to intimacy. We do other things – the service love manifested in her toilet status is equally important, and I hurt her tits, strap her ass until it is so bruised and sore moving is agony for the next few days, but this is the core and heart of the matter:
Brutal cunt punishment.


Where is your core in D/s and or SM?
EDIT: I should have said "What is your core or essential symbology/dynmaic within D/s or SM?

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RE: Your Core - 7/2/2005 2:50:30 PM   
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My core- everything you just described and more.

i will endure any kind of pain,any kind of suffering,any kind of humilation, i will do all of this lovingly,anything to see that look of pleasure on his face.Knowing i've pleased Him makes me intensely happy and that is my core.i'm a pleaser

i suppose my definition goes a bit beyond the "core" that you were referring to,but it is who i am,as simple as it is.i can't think of any other ways to express it

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RE: Your Core - 7/2/2005 3:10:15 PM   
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Where is your core in D/s and or SM?


Between my ears.

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RE: Your Core - 7/2/2005 3:13:41 PM   
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Within me.

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RE: Your Core - 7/2/2005 3:25:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: dechala

My core- everything you just described and more.

i will endure any kind of pain,any kind of suffering,any kind of humilation, i will do all of this lovingly,anything to see that look of pleasure on his face.Knowing i've pleased Him makes me intensely happy and that is my core.i'm a pleaser

i suppose my definition goes a bit beyond the "core" that you were referring to,but it is who i am,as simple as it is.i can't think of any other ways to express it


I think that is clear - for you, the core dynamic for you is suffering as an act of devotion, without a particular symbology.

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RE: Your Core - 7/2/2005 4:03:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Faramir

quote:

ORIGINAL: dechala

My core- everything you just described and more.

i will endure any kind of pain,any kind of suffering,any kind of humilation, i will do all of this lovingly,anything to see that look of pleasure on his face.Knowing i've pleased Him makes me intensely happy and that is my core.i'm a pleaser

i suppose my definition goes a bit beyond the "core" that you were referring to,but it is who i am,as simple as it is.i can't think of any other ways to express it


I think that is clear - for you, the core dynamic for you is suffering as an act of devotion, without a particular symbology.

Yes- exactly.Thank you
BTW your original post,amazingly well written and expressive

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RE: Your Core - 7/2/2005 4:35:40 PM   
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Every couple in D/s and SM has their own symbology of suffering and power.


In what way do you believe that to be true? Not all D/s or SM relationships exist for suffering and power - I would say that was an incredible generalization.


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That core is this: to make her suffer and have her accept that suffering with love and gratitude. Every couple in D/s and SM has their own symbology of suffering and power. For one couple it might be domestic violence – him punching her out



Domestic violence is NOT D/s or SM or any form of BDSM - it IS abuse. Symbology? Fuck, I hope not.
Whilst I believe I understand this thread, including Domestic Violence as a 'symbol' is an obvious flaw.

Domestic Violence is simply unacceptable - and the only symbol is not of a BDSM relationship but an abusive one. Do you not understand the difference?

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RE: Your Core - 7/2/2005 5:09:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Faramir

This is from something I wrote recently:

That core is this: to make her suffer and have her accept that suffering with love and gratitude. Every couple in D/s and SM has their own symbology of suffering and power......


Where is your core in D/s and or SM?


It starts within my soul and mind and flows, until like a river over flowing its banks, it touches all points with the relationship.

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RE: Your Core - 7/2/2005 5:25:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dark~angel

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Every couple in D/s and SM has their own symbology of suffering and power.


In what way do you believe that to be true? Not all D/s or SM relationships exist for suffering and power - I would say that was an incredible generalization.


Peace and Love


It was a speaker in a story - not "me." So yes - it was a generaliztion. If it doesn't fit you - feel free not to take anything from it.



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ORIGINAL: dark~angel


Domestic violence is NOT D/s or SM or any form of BDSM - it IS abuse. Symbology? Fuck, I hope not.
Whilst I believe I understand this thread, including Domestic Violence as a 'symbol' is an obvious flaw.

Domestic Violence is simply unacceptable - and the only symbol is not of a BDSM relationship but an abusive one. Do you not understand the difference?

Peace and Love



Yea - real domestic violence is ugly. But lots of people have a kink that looks like it. A person slapping their partenr non-consensualy as abuse is ugly. Me slapping my little girl across the face in D/s is *hot*.

Anyone with sense can differentiate between the two - going on about it is self-righteously is pathetic.

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RE: Your Core - 7/2/2005 5:47:32 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Faramir
Yea - real domestic violence is ugly. But lots of people have a kink that looks like it. A person slapping their partenr non-consensualy as abuse is ugly. Me slapping my little girl across the face in D/s is *hot*.

Anyone with sense can differentiate between the two - going on about it is self-righteously is pathetic.



Hitting someone who has consented to be hit is NOT domestic violence, except in the sense that it is violence that takes place in the home.

I think I understand what you're saying, but your choice of terminology is muddying it.

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RE: Your Core - 7/2/2005 5:48:48 PM   
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Where is your core in D/s and or SM?

being owned

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RE: Your Core - 7/2/2005 6:05:53 PM   
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quote:

Yea - real domestic violence is ugly. But lots of people have a kink that looks like it. A person slapping their partenr non-consensualy as abuse is ugly. Me slapping my little girl across the face in D/s is *hot*.

Anyone with sense can differentiate between the two - going on about it is self-righteously is pathetic.

No, it isn't pathetic - defending terminology that could be mis interpreted, is 'pathetic' - what I did, was pedantic - same P, jut different word

As perverse stated, your terminology was muddy - of course slapping someone around the face when it's their kink isn't abuse, but Domestic Violence is. If you desire something to be taken seriously, like face slapping, or breast slapping or fisting or punching - then it is always wisest not enable another to twist your words. You cannot just take a usage of such a definitive word and try and make it into something it is not.

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RE: Your Core - 7/2/2005 6:33:50 PM   
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quote:

twist your words.
Peace and Love



I think that's the heart of the matter.

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RE: Your Core - 7/2/2005 6:50:40 PM   
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It is what we are.....


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RE: Your Core - 7/2/2005 7:35:32 PM   
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by the way... did you know that several years of accepting painful intercourse practices will most likely result in corrective surgery of your vagina?

and if you keep it up.... you'll probably have to get it done again?

on the bright side, your gyn can reconstruct you in a manner that will make you a virgin again each time he does it...... which is always an added bonus.

no offense to anyone on this website, really, but i really dont think anyone would accept "any type of pain for their dom" after they've bled enough times, layed on the couch in severe pain for days at a time bleeding from their vagina too many times to count, scared to death that THIS time you have serious internal damage, and watchig the gyn sadly shake his head while he's examing you and thinks your not looking......

oh lets not forget that when the vagina goes.... so does the rectum and bladder, but they can tack that back up as well.....

arrgghhhh!!!! *scowl ~ z

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RE: Your Core - 7/2/2005 9:40:47 PM   
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the core, for me....the intensity of the D/s relationship, the bond, the sensations and emotions, the depth in which i love and feel loved, the freedom to be myself, the passion, feeling so wanted, so controlled, so owned....the excitment, the vulnerability.... i feel more alive now, that i am a slave to my Master, than i have ever felt before...cheesy, maybe...but true.

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RE: Your Core - 7/2/2005 10:37:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

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Where is your core in D/s and or SM?


Between my ears.

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I agree with you.

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RE: Your Core - 7/2/2005 11:16:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: zaynab


on the bright side, your gyn can reconstruct you in a manner that will make you a virgin again each time he does it...... which is always an added bonus.

no offense to anyone on this website, really, but i really dont think anyone would accept "any type of pain for their dom" after they've bled enough times, layed on the couch in severe pain for days at a time bleeding from their vagina too many times to count, scared to death that THIS time you have serious internal damage, and watchig the gyn sadly shake his head while he's examing you and thinks your not looking......

oh lets not forget that when the vagina goes.... so does the rectum and bladder, but they can tack that back up as well.....

arrgghhhh!!!! *scowl ~ z


i think we all agree that severe injury is much different than enduring pain for the One you love.If you're bleeding internally that is a severe problem.The kind of endurance i spoke of has nothing to do with internal injury.


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RE: Your Core - 7/3/2005 1:18:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kisshou

Where is your core in D/s and or SM?

being owned

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RE: Your Core - 7/3/2005 3:23:26 AM   
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Where is your core in D/s and or SM?


my Master is my core. Everything about Him is the essence of my being. Serving, pleasing, seeing Him smile, everything.

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