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The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America - 8/12/2007 11:57:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		ok.. i sorta went slightly off topic because another poster on another thread in this same *heading* mentioned never hearing about BlackWater or Triple Canopy.

which i've known about for a while.

then it made me think.. what ELSE that our american gov is doing that is NOT known by the average american until too late?

NAFTA, Private Defense Contractors,  Foreign Currency, and  Privitization of current Public Services (healthcare, schools, social security etc) do americans TRULY know about?

i would love to make this combined with a poll.

because i have ONE question that is affecting North America as a whole..

how many of you all truthfully know what the Security and Prosperity of North America Partnership is?

i know what it is so i won't bother to even adulterate my little experiment- i won't say a word until the discussion *hopefully* takes off then i will share more about what i know.

but for now, before anyone goes to google the term. (and PLEASE DO google the term if you are unaware of it..).

but i would love to know honestly how many people were aware of this already enacted act.

i am willing to bet, the same Americans who didn't know shit about the Patriot Act and PAII before it was too late.

i'm not judging anyone, but i do wonder how indoctrinated are we in this country.. when shit that is RIGHT in front of our faces, simply isn't known by the masses.

we'd take to the streets if more knew how our rights were being effectively castrated.

that's all i'll say on this matter until i inevitably am engaged in a debate.

i do welcome debate, however, since i did initiate this  thread.. i would appreciate if ALL responses are ON topic, NOT inflammatory in terms of attacking someone elses views.

closed minds are not welcomed in this thread.  i'm not saying we have to agree, but nothing off topic.. like going from the specific topic of  "The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America"

that's it.

i know of course people will google the term then reply. but i'm telling anyone that questions me on this subject now. i have and archivally researched this since the latter of 2005. i will not acknowledge  nor argue posts based on conjecture.

i am capable of providing footies (footnotes).

i suggest people that are unwilling to look this up on their own NOT come at me undocumented.

the term is here for you to search for yourself and just keep it cordial. this is one thread i do not want to become a convoluted flame war.

this is something we really need to bump heads on.

because it is all of us.. far left or far right.

(once again i'm not going to change any typos so it cannot be said that i changed my initial query)

just contexturally deduce what i'm attempting to say if you do see any typographical errors (i know how mootly typos seem to be a big ass chewing point on here).








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RE: The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North Am... - 8/13/2007 12:10:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		i wanted to ask.. i'm NOT being patronizing in the least.

rather, i'm attempting to ellucidate.  and i want to see what people truly KNOw vs what is truly goin ON.

so please do not take my tone in the initial query to be patronizing that sometimes you guys didn't know about certain things.

hell, i didnt know either until i found out. now i know and like i said in another thread on here (not this one).

i can NO longer cop to plausible deniability..

either i can do my part and become *aware*.. or i can lay down and let what ALL americans view as *America*...

go down the drain due to revocations of simple civil liberties in the name of safety?

i may come off extremely left wing and i am. but i am all for arming the innocents, i'm a socialist.. i want universal healthcare as well.

i'm just saying that i'm not asking people to choose candidates based upon party lines.. naaah..

i just want people to see where the true agenda is coming from.. and it NOT dem or repub.

and there is ONE thing that americans seem to agree if nothing else

the right to do whatever the fuck we want.

and we don't wnat to be told we can't.. as long as it doesn't hurt someone else (i hope).

and we want the right to autonomy and self govern.. and that is nearly a universal republican or democratic wish/want.

they're splitting us up to fight each other than to see the big picture.. we all pretty much, more or less want the same- the right to have right to privacy and lots of other things. it's not a dem or repub thing.

it's a thing like.. hey.. neither side is digging this  current way our country is going and it is up to us to voice that.

anyhoo..

i just didnt want this to sound like a left wing slant from a left wing Goddess.

i happen to view everything as a "hey. this is NOT what our country was founded on* sorta premis.

and i think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone today that will agree that this is what the US was founded on.

dem/repub/socialist or not.





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RE: The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North Am... - 8/13/2007 12:52:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		This has been discussed here repeatedly. I think a better approach would be to link to relevant info or to make a point about it, or both.

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RE: The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North Am... - 8/13/2007 12:53:18 AM   
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RE: The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North Am... - 8/13/2007 1:26:46 AM   
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This has been discussed here repeatedly. I think a better approach would be to link to relevant info or to make a point about it, or both.


i could easily do both.. however, my attempt was to speak about this based upon lack of prior knowledge about things going on in the US that MANY united states citizens previously did not know about in respect to another thread that sparked me to bring this one up.

if you've already heard of SPP or are aware then consider yourself lucky.

few do.

and i am once again just coming back to the boards. just because it has been perhaps been discussed before  doesn't make the topic any less relevant... now does it? even more so considering there was a recent meeting betwixt these leaders.

i haven't been here for a while and nor could i be arsed to read throughout all of the prior threads to discern this fact that this has been or not discussed before.

we're in the here and now and just like i didnt read other threads about SPP i'm sure others haven't from the previous threads that you say were dealt with before.

just like a goodly amount of americans know nothing of private contractors. i am willing to cut off the digits upon my right hand to assert that whilst this was covered before (perhaps ).. that it never goes out of relevent nature.

so if this is already something that you are cogniscient of then i suggest you find another thread to participate in.

just like the topic of money dommes that has incessant shelf life, so should this.

i feel it is well within my boundaries to bring this up again as well.

as far as links or whatever.. i can show those much later.. i'd rather see a little more legitimate interest in this issue before i offer gratuitous links that no one has interest in perusing.

sorry.. i may not be a Moderator.. but i'm not going to just let this go to dogs. i would rather see people with a legitimate open mind receive the information.

if i feel a significant number of people do question more information, regardless of *side* (even though there are no political sides in this) i will more than gladly offer my resources.

but not just up for people not even bothering to truly look at things that may not really keep an open mind.

damnit that Walter Gropius quote always seems to come to mind in situations such as these.

so does the serenity prayer.

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RE: The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North Am... - 8/13/2007 1:43:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		I believe Americans should be most concerned of the proposed Private Social Security Accounts that Bush and Co.have been pushing for a few years now.  The subject may now be on the politcal back burner, but I'm convinced we'll see it spring up again during the Presidential elections in '08.  The government's position has always been cagey at best on this matter.  Personally, I don't agree with the fundemental concept of them and I certainly distrust the idea of a few select corporations overseeing the retirement savings of millions of people.

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RE: The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North Am... - 8/13/2007 1:49:51 AM   
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I believe Americans should be most concerned of the proposed Private Social Security Accounts that Bush and Co.have been pushing for a few years now.  The subject may now be on the politcal back burner, but I'm convinced we'll see it spring up again during the Presidential elections in '08.  The government's position has always been cagey at best on this matter.  Personally, I don't agree with the fundemental concept of them and I certainly distrust the idea of a few select corporations overseeing the retirement savings of millions of people.



privitization  of governmental and public goods/services is part of a much larger picture.

a lot of the agendas being clandestinely pushed are seriously part of a much larger picture

this is where i divert from what most would consider a conspiracy theorist..

i don't know WHY this is happening or why i suddenly notice things are a LOT different and i'm not even that old. i just turned 30.

but i definitely see a shift and i notice certain psychological tactics being used to push these agendas.

i will be the first to admit i have no clue what the end is... or maybe i'm too afraid to know what the *means to an end* are.. but i defnitely can accept that the fact that more and more of our civil liberties are being whittled away.

there are a number of potential reasons as to why.

i guess it all depends on the reason why.

but whatever the reasons are.. we can all accept that our civil liberties are being chipped away at bit by bit.

draw your own conclusions..







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RE: The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North Am... - 8/13/2007 2:06:59 AM   
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privitization  of governmental and public goods/services is part of a much larger picture.

a lot of the agendas being clandestinely pushed are seriously part of a much larger picture

this is where i divert from what most would consider a conspiracy theorist..

i don't know WHY this is happening or why i suddenly notice things are a LOT different and i'm not even that old. i just turned 30.

but i definitely see a shift and i notice certain psychological tactics being used to push these agendas.

i will be the first to admit i have no clue what the end is... or maybe i'm too afraid to know what the *means to an end* are.. but i defnitely can accept that the fact that more and more of our civil liberties are being whittled away.

there are a number of potential reasons as to why.

i guess it all depends on the reason why.

but whatever the reasons are.. we can all accept that our civil liberties are being chipped away at bit by bit.

draw your own conclusions..


I couldn't agree more with you on the first remark.

Actually, this all somewhat reminds me of the creation of the US Federal Reserve and how one of the most powerful financial institutions in the world was pretty much created overnight and pushed through congress below the public's radar. 

I'm very concerned with the current state of US politics.  I like to consider myself a left-leaning moderate for the most part, and while I try to give those of differing views some the benefit of the doubt, even I'll throw my hands up and admit that the administration you've got in the Whitehouse right now is one of the most inept and corrupt I've seen.  I can understand what sort of world we're living in and I'm not niave to think that after 9/11 and other related events, we should just go along our lives with no change, but the so many of changes your leaders have made politically have been so terribly  thought-out and implemented - if at all. 

I'm not generally one for being melodramatic, but I am convinced that with the war in Iraq, the loss of American civil liberties, growing entrenchment of corporate lobbiests, and general resentment the rest of the world has towards the United States, we could be looking at the end of the American Empire.

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RE: The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North Am... - 8/13/2007 2:21:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		Take a look at how the EU has changed from being concerned with free trade, to now being concerned with just about everything.

If there is any danger in this its to Canada and Mexico as America sure wont ever become the junior partner.

My query would be how does this differ from Nafta, or is it just an incidious expansion of the same thing ?


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RE: The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North Am... - 8/13/2007 2:54:22 AM   
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Take a look at how the EU has changed from being concerned with free trade, to now being concerned with just about everything.

If there is any danger in this its to Canada and Mexico as America sure wont ever become the junior partner.

My query would be how does this differ from Nafta, or is it just an incidious expansion of the same thing ?




i REALLY would love to address how SPP differs from NAFTA.. right now it is 2:47a and well beyond my time for beddie bye.

however, trust.... first thing in the morrow i will really try to succinctly explain without any jargon or rhetoric explain to you  the difference between NAFTA and SPP.

just consider SPP as NAFTA like on crack.

you're spot on when you say the US will  not be a junior partner (if this somehow escapes congressional oversight  in the US which is BEYOND me if it can.. but hey.... i wouldn't be surprised)..

i can show you a few links or give you some documents you should review in either your local legal library or even online.

we REALLY need to all hip ourselves on the various HR bills.

shit is being scooted under ALL of our eyes at an astounding speed.

and when i say all i mean all. pagan lefist liberals like myself (that is also voting for a republican for pres come 2008 and that has always voted in every single eligible election since 18).. or even across the board to flag wavin bush supporting republicans.

we need to understand that all of these factions are either pushing an agenda OR turning a blind eye to it.

we cannot let them fool us with circular rhetoric.




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RE: The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North Am... - 8/13/2007 12:56:29 PM   
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Take a look at how the EU has changed from being concerned with free trade, to now being concerned with just about everything.

If there is any danger in this its to Canada and Mexico as America sure wont ever become the junior partner.

My query would be how does this differ from Nafta, or is it just an incidious expansion of the same thing ?




in a nutshell.. this partnership's goal is to unite Canada, the US, and Mexico in to a North American Bloc in an attempt to *compete* with the EU and the emerging Asian Bloc. i suppose on the surface it doesn't sound so bad if it wasn't based largely on privatization of many goods/services, corporate elistism and the elimination of sovereignty of all three nations involved.

it also would make great changes by the merging of our currencies (pretty much killing the autonomy of each nation.) the currency for the NAU would be called the "amero."

even the existence of the amero is highly contested, but it's something that has been well known and well speculated in financial circles for years. i dabble in foreign currency day trading (forex) and for years financial communities have been speculating as to its existence. i've heard that the amero has even already been coined, but that has been called a myth by official whitehouse FAQs. so i don't really know.. i just keep an open mind when it comes to things being contested or dispelled.

the truth in the big picture always comes out and if americans knew that we'd be losing our dollar we'd flip a bitch. then again i'm sure europeans weren't too happy when the majority of them had to switch to the Euro so it's not a far fetched idea at ALL.

the partnership was signed on 23 march 2005 in texas by the presidents of mexico and the u.s. and the prime minister of canada. and in fact the three leaders are supposed to meet again like 20-21 Aug of this year. even though this partnership is in direct opposition to pretty much every damn thing in the constitution, it is still truckin' on ahead without any congressional oversight or scrutiny.

there is a republican representative in texas named Ron Paul and he seems to be the only voice in the US gov that's like... whoa whoa, you can't enter America in to a partnership like this without putting this before congress and the american people, yet it's still happening and is expected (or hoped) to be fully implemented and enacted by 2010, which i seriously doubt.. but ya never know, not unless another large 9/11 type event transpires and helps push it along a bit faster.

i'm not quite sure under what authority bush is allowed to enter us into this trilateral partnership under such a shroud of secrecy. this partnership transcends *free trade* and is an attempt to not only pretty much open up the borders of all 3 nations, but it has energy, trade, customs standards, immigration,  integration of our judicial systems, privatization, currency and civil liberty infringement implications.

as with anything, there is a lot of speculation, conjecture, myth, truth, downright lies, and misunderstandings surrounding this partnership.. but it definitely strikes me as something that more people need to become aware about and question why it will have SUCH profound impact on all three nations, yet hardly anyone i know has even ever heard of it.

a lot of the reading is rather dry, but the information is out there. for anyone to google it if they don't want to head in to a library.

this video link is an hour long, but it's well worth the watch. connie fogal is the leader of a small political party in canada known as the Canadian Action Party.. she's rather eloquent- very well spoken. she explains in depth just what the ramifications of SPP are:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-1355300745194023737

a little bit about the amero:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3jdQxDC7pA

this link deals with primarily the immigration aspects of the SPP:
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=194640

i have lots more but anyone can google the term and find the links themselves, or go to a legal library.




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RE: The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North Am... - 8/13/2007 1:08:32 PM   
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we REALLY need to all hip ourselves on the various HR bills.

shit is being scooted under ALL of our eyes at an astounding speed.





This is a constant in our country. Apathy happens for a lot of reasons, but quite often it happens because the costs (amount of work involved) are enormous to citizens to keep abreast of what is going on. People don't care unless the media actually works to make them care about specific issues. Economic issues are really hard to sell to the American people because you can't film an economic story. You also can't sound byte it in a quick burst so that people can come up to speed really quickly. Therefore, many people just ignore it and hopes that their representatives are working on their behalf. It sucks that it happens this way, but our system has developed this way because those in power tend to like it this way. I really don't think members of Congress would be comfortable if the majority of people in American paid full attention to what is going on. There's a reason the aristocratic arguments concerning governmental governance seem so attractive to those who do pay attention to what is going on.

I mean, I have graduate degrees in political science and communication, and the amount of work it takes to keep up on specific issues is enormous. Sometimes, even though it's my job to do so, I just want to give up on it and start focusing on Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton, because it takes so little effort to keep up to speed on unimportant things. And there's one more problem that rarely gets addressed: People don't think they can make a difference, and as a result, they zone out of what's going on. You can see this in statements made by political leaders when a president refers to 200,000 people as "a focus group" that is no more significant than a Proctor & Gamble study of which toothpaste consumers prefer. People tried to become involved and voted an alternative party into Congress, and people are becoming discouraged again because NOTHING has changed, so why participate or even care? No one can come up with that answer because nothing that is being done seems to make a difference to the people who are upset and trying to pay attention to keep abreast of current events. Imagine it this way. You watch the news and scream at the television set. But nothing changes. Knowing about what's happening in the world, in this context, leaves you even more dissatisfied because all you can do is scream at the television set. What's the incentive to keep someone paying attention when you can't influence anything, and when you try (like voting) you find that nothing you want to influence is even allowed onto the ballot?


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RE: The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North Am... - 8/13/2007 2:41:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		wow.. you pretty much hit the nail on the head. i couldn't have said it any better myself.

i've always been abreast of international politics and economics. i don't just stop at american politics because the world consists of more than just the goings on of the US. i don't expect the average american to be *up* on international affairs. hell, i'd be content for most US citizens to care as much about what's going on in our own backyards as they do about paris' newest pet.

i couldn't agree more with your assessment of the situation. there is a sense of hopelessness and a "what can i do to change things" sort of mentality. but i'd rather be in the *know* and feel like i can't do shit about it, than not know a damn thing and then get blindsided by it.




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RE: The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North Am... - 8/13/2007 4:24:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BlueCollar

I believe Americans should be most concerned of the proposed Private Social Security Accounts that Bush and Co.have been pushing for a few years now.  The subject may now be on the politcal back burner, but I'm convinced we'll see it spring up again during the Presidential elections in '08.  The government's position has always been cagey at best on this matter.  Personally, I don't agree with the fundemental concept of them and I certainly distrust the idea of a few select corporations overseeing the retirement savings of millions of people.



What is wrong with people being able to save their own money for retirement? What makes you think that private corporations are less trustworthy to oversee retirement savings when the government has used social security as a revenue source since the inception of the program? Assuming of course that individuals aren't directing their own investments.

I think people should be most concerned with getting rid of social security as it is only a huge ponzi scheme. If any private corporation ran a 401k program the way government ran social security they would all be thrown in prison.

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RE: The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North Am... - 8/13/2007 4:27:20 PM   
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i will be the first to admit i have no clue what the end is


Really you don't? You need to think about it a bit more as there is only motivation that covers all the bases. 

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RE: The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North Am... - 8/13/2007 4:37:19 PM   
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wow.. you pretty much hit the nail on the head.
i couldn't have said it any better myself.

i've always been abreast of international politics and economics.
i don't just stop at american politics because the world consists of more
than just the goings on of the US. i don't expect the average american to be *up* on international affairs. hell, i'd be content for most US citizens to care as much about what's going on in our own backyards as they do about paris' newest pet.

i couldn't agree more with your assessment of the situation. there is a sense of hopelessness and a "what can i do to change things" sort of mentality. but i'd rather be in the *know* and feel like i can't do shit about it, than not know a damn thing and then get blindsided by it.






So is usurping the government a conspiracy?  Maybe I am a bit over
simplistic but in my opinioon usurping our government is a conspiracy.

Since you like movies here is cnbc and their shock about it as we all find
out what bush has been doing behind our backs and that congress has
simply turned their backs to it.


http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=5352514160323841599


If you are into how this country is getting dry fucked you may
want to read my post about the mossad which would explain how
things are so easily kept secret though i question how many people
made that connection

Victor Ostrovsky and By Way of Deception, Thou Shalt Do War

http://www.collarchat.com/m_1205961/tm.htm

Anything really important is seriously boring chit and treated as
such here it seems or at least people seem afraid to post comments to it.

any way i have a nice collection of vids myself :)

The Amero - North American Currency
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-1578353688563579937

North American Union Traitors Include Chertoff, Rice, Bush
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-362721375644422253

CNN Video:Lou Dobbs Slams CFR & North American Union
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2717662016776465966

NORTH AMERICAN UNION
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=5746053279286349888

Lou Dobbs: North American Union Orwellian Brave New World
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=2282867471160155093

The Dangers of the "North American Union"
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-5581854975245721437

Corporate North American Union
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-1355300745194023737

http://www.ceocouncil.ca/publications/pdf/8502a13cf417d09eab13468e2a7c9f65/New_Frontiers_NASPI_Discussion_Paper_April_2004.pdf

Pretext For The North American Union (NAU): Intro, Part 1 & Part 2 (SPP)
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2268341860482102257
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-521101811626076431
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-7025644754994004363





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RE: The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North Am... - 8/13/2007 5:01:56 PM   
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i will be the first to admit i have no clue what the end is


Really you don't? You need to think about it a bit more as there is only motivation that covers all the bases. 


i should say i can't believe that democracy become so adulterated. i mean obviously it's power and the retention of power, money, and greed.

i know the real reasons why.. it's just sad to accept.




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RE: The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North Am... - 8/13/2007 5:02:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi EbonyFtshGoddess.... Thanks for the links. i am actually in the Uk so i am more concerned with the EU. i see the same pattern and trends though, and the erosion of democracy.
At present there is talk of an EU constitution, the French have already voted against it. The outcome is this, there has now been an agreement on a treaty, which contains much of the proposed constitution. Basically its the same thing sliding quietly through the back door. Any votes on the constitution will just get re worded and voted on again until the Government get their way.


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RE: The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North Am... - 8/13/2007 5:04:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		i'm going to check out the videos now.

as far as usurping our gov being a conspiracy i would have to disagree.

it's a constitutional right.


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RE: The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North Am... - 8/13/2007 5:05:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ebony, Bush is trying to push that stuff because he's bought and paid for by big business.
He's their "mouthpiece."
Everything he's done has been for business.
People don't seem to realise that Bush is not a conservative, or a liberal.
He's not a Republican or a Democrat or belongs to any other party.
*Big Business got their guy in.*
It's that simple.
I'm not a socialist but I'd like to have a National Healthcare Plan too.
And we could afford it if we'd do away with "foreign aid."
With all the State Dept giveaway programs counted in it comes to $70-$90 Billion per year. I don't think even the govt. knows the exact amount that we piss away every year in those programs.
The key is to get big business out of the anal cavity of our government and that means getting rid of all the lobbists on "K" street in D.C.
Too many people make too much money from "foreign aid" and of course they all have "good reasons" for promoting it!
For instance Mercedes Benz dealers love U.S. "foreign aid" programs and largely because of "foreign aid", there's a Mercedes Benz dealer in every country in the world.
The whole program has been totally corrupted.
And it's the same businesses and people making money off of this year after year.
And guess who pays for that shit?

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