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breatheasone -> RE: Stop "Under Consideration" Speech Restrictions (8/18/2007 9:08:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rover There seems to be no end to the reasons for me to scoff at those who are "under consideration", engaged in said "consideration", or even those who take it seriously (such as the OP). Yeah, that's judgmental. Yeah, it's just my opinion which doesn't make me right. Yeah, you're welcome to have a different opinion and to express it. John I was told(written an e-mail) by mod eleven that "it DOESN'T work that way here"...being judgemental isn't allowed she said....whats in quotes is exactly what she said btw, when i replied to an e-mail she sent me and said..."it just my opinion and people can disagree if they want"...

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Stop "Under Consideration" Speech Restrictions (8/18/2007 10:02:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie What a treat you are to read, Michael. Signed, The asshole stupid idiot who belongs to her moron Master [;)] At least you're still cute and cuddly :)

ExSteelAgain -> RE: Stop "Under Consideration" Speech Restrictions (8/18/2007 10:08:51 AM)
Someone trying to explain "under consideration" is like Luna Lovegood trying to explain nargles.

kc692 -> RE: Stop "Under Consideration" Speech Restrictions (8/18/2007 10:36:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: breatheasone quote: ORIGINAL: Rover There seems to be no end to the reasons for me to scoff at those who are "under consideration", engaged in said "consideration", or even those who take it seriously (such as the OP). Yeah, that's judgmental. Yeah, it's just my opinion which doesn't make me right. Yeah, you're welcome to have a different opinion and to express it. John I was told(written an e-mail) by mod eleven that "it DOESN'T work that way here"...being judgemental isn't allowed she said....whats in quotes is exactly what she said btw, when i replied to an e-mail she sent me and said..."it just my opinion and people can disagree if they want"... [:D]Welcome to the boards smiles.......calling out the mods is one sure way to gain favor with them. Disclaimer: That was just my opinion, I was NOT being judgemental, lol!!!!

KatyLied -> RE: Stop "Under Consideration" Speech Restrictions (8/18/2007 10:38:05 AM)
Why can't they just say "we're seeing each other" or "we're not sure" or "he's not sure".

Redoubt -> RE: Stop "Under Consideration" Speech Restrictions (8/18/2007 10:53:46 AM)
If a submissive consents to place him/herself under that restriction, then sorry - that's that. If its a restriction from a "dom" they met online 2 days ago... as Ron White says "There ain't no cure fer stoopid" Does it make it any less sucky that newcomers get placed in dangerous situations, no of course not... but its a big ole world, and it's not very forgiving... all the education necessary to play safe is out there, its just that some people can only learn lessons if theyre harsh ones.

adoracat -> RE: Stop "Under Consideration" Speech Restrictions (8/18/2007 10:59:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KatyLied Why can't they just say "we're seeing each other" or "we're not sure" or "he's not sure". actually what i said in that situation was "in discussion". that made sense to me. kitten

Aileen68 -> RE: Stop "Under Consideration" Speech Restrictions (8/18/2007 11:01:37 AM)
Silly me. It's always the doms that are under my consideration. Works out much better that way.

mmb1 -> RE: Stop "Under Consideration" Speech Restrictions (8/18/2007 11:13:52 AM)
LMAO chiathepet, you summed it up pretty well :) With all those considerate words :)

MstrMstrs -> RE: Stop "Under Consideration" Speech Restrictions (8/18/2007 11:25:09 AM)
I have a submissive under consideration But I Did Not Require slave To place the *Restricted speach or such online restrictions ; even Tho slave done such all By them selve's , and since has Been out Here With Me and still under consideration even tho slave has returned back the theyre own home . If a slave under consideration want to restrict them selves that's they're choice , just as it is the Choice of said Dominant's Choice to Restrict them in order to gain a more attenative attention from that submissive/slave under consideration . But this is My opinion !! My own 2 cents !! for what its Worth !!

IrishMist -> RE: Stop "Under Consideration" Speech Restrictions (8/18/2007 11:37:22 AM)
quote: First, while speech restrictions were always a part of D/s, Really? Well shit, that's a new one on me. quote: never was this idea of letting your prospective Dom monitor all your communications from the get go condoned in the BDSM community. So YOU say. quote: NO! Restricting access to others communicating with you is dangerous I generally do agree with this. quote: This is not the practice at all in real world D/s socializing And you KNOW this because? quote: But now "UNDER CONSIDERATION" has become a practice being used by stalkers, abusers, etc. to monitor a girl's mail and sometimes to keep others from relaying caution stories about the person a sub is about to submit too. There is inherent danger to this practice and if a Dom demands this - RUN! I assume that you are personally acquainted with ALL those who now use this? I mean, how else are YOU to know that they are stalkers, abusers, etc? quote: But even to a lesser degree, accepting restrictions from talking to others right off the bat, particularly if you are an inexperienced sub, is very bad news as it limits your ability to hear warnings about unsafe play from other Doms or Dommes and use other people as sounding boards. I would have to question the person who feels the NEED to send such stories to another who is already in the process of talking with another. Sounds to me like the person NEEDING to warn the other is riding an ego trip. /shrug Of course, all of this is the fault of the stalkers and the abusers who use this phrase. No fault can be laid at the feet of the 'unsuspecting' submissive. I mean, let's face it, they are just weak minded individuals who under no circumstances should use any form of common sense. At least, that is what I am understanding from your post.

HaveRopeWillBind -> RE: Stop "Under Consideration" Speech Restrictions (8/18/2007 11:51:08 AM)
IMO a dominant has no authority to place restrictions on any submissive until after they have placed an accepted collar.

Celeste43 -> RE: Stop "Under Consideration" Speech Restrictions (8/18/2007 12:12:56 PM)
He told me no chatting with other doms because he saw the trolling emails I had gotten. I don't play casually but if I did I wouldn't be asking one dom his opinion of another, I'd have the sense to ask other subs who they had had a good time bottoming with and who were horror shows. As far as emails, that's fine if it's on a substantive topic such as asking more detailed questions on how to make your first flogger or such but just becoming friends with one I hadn't known before? Not permitted here. I've been with him four years and I still get HNG mail, you bet there are a lot of men out there who would be glad to take me away from him if I were willing. I'm not but I rarely think an email sent to me has this as it's ultimate purpose, I'm naive this way. He's another man so he can spot them and he answers for me if they persist. It works for us and that's all that matters. Now if you're talking about that third person speech and the slashy stuff, that I agree with. It's such a mangling of the English language that it grates on my nerves.

celticlord2112 -> RE: Stop "Under Consideration" Speech Restrictions (8/18/2007 12:15:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HaveRopeWillBind IMO a dominant has no authority to place restrictions on any submissive until after they have placed an accepted collar. A Dominant has whatever authority the submissive surrenders to him, collared or not.

HaveRopeWillBind -> RE: Stop "Under Consideration" Speech Restrictions (8/18/2007 12:23:34 PM)
Celtic, On a pratical level that may be so, but on a moral level it opens a whole can of worms including abuse and poaching.

ModeratorEleven -> RE: Stop "Under Consideration" Speech Restrictions (8/18/2007 12:31:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: breatheasone I was told(written an e-mail) by mod eleven that "it DOESN'T work that way here"...being judgemental isn't allowed she said....whats in quotes is exactly what she said btw, when i replied to an e-mail she sent me and said..."it just my opinion and people can disagree if they want"... What I said was in response to you referring to someone else's kink, repeatedly, as "sick and disgusting". That's not simply posting your opinion, which is perfectly acceptable here. XI

breatheasone -> RE: Stop "Under Consideration" Speech Restrictions (8/18/2007 12:35:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ModeratorEleven quote: ORIGINAL: breatheasone I was told(written an e-mail) by mod eleven that "it DOESN'T work that way here"...being judgemental isn't allowed she said....whats in quotes is exactly what she said btw, when i replied to an e-mail she sent me and said..."it just my opinion and people can disagree if they want"... What I said was in response to you referring to someone else's kink, repeatedly, as "sick and disgusting". That's not simply posting your opinion, which is perfectly acceptable here. XI I still disagree...that kink being sick and disgusting TO ME "is" my opinion...and it still hasn't changed ...with all due respect to you Ms. Eleven....

SmokingGun82 -> RE: Stop "Under Consideration" Speech Restrictions (8/18/2007 1:09:02 PM)
Not to hijack the thread, and without trying to be a dick, but how is that not stating an opinion? Maybe you can say it's an offensive opinion, or an opinion that the site doesn't want to allow... but it's still just stating an opinion.

breatheasone -> RE: Stop "Under Consideration" Speech Restrictions (8/18/2007 1:13:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SmokingGun82 Not to hijack the thread, and without trying to be a dick, but how is that not stating an opinion? Maybe you can say it's an offensive opinion, or an opinion that the site doesn't want to allow... but it's still just stating an opinion. exactly....i dont get how my opinion is any different then any others....its simply "my" opinion...for example...there are plenty of people that say and think scat is sick and disgusting...but yet to each there own right?....so i really dont get it.

cwytch -> RE: Stop "Under Consideration" Speech Restrictions (8/18/2007 1:42:25 PM)
i would think that one would explore the pros and cons before they placed themselves in an "under consideration" position..it is my belief that "under consideration" is when the relationship has progressed to the point that ownership is being discussed...i would imagine that both parties have gathered a great deal of information about their prospective partner before this point is reached...

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