meatcleaver
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ORIGINAL: Sinergy I answered this question to some extent. It predates historical time to the dawn of mankind and relates to the 9 months to 2 years where a woman is basically helpless to care for a man's children, as well as the male need to ensure that his own bloodline is carried on. It is covered in great detail in "Why is Sex Fun" and "The Third Chimpanzee" by Jared Diamond, among other works by people such as Marx, etc. This is not true. Indo-European cultures closely related to the indo-European culture of the sub-continent developed with women being independent property holders and able to hold positions of rank and even be warriors and tribal leaders. Please tell me how this is so and how these great thinkers were ignorant of what we know of indo-European cultures? quote:
ORIGINAL: Sinergy You guessed incorrectly. Abortion is a complex and emotionally charged issue which almost invariably results in a screaming fight between people. I have already discussed my own personal opinions on it in other threads, and I was commenting here on a thread which discusses the eradication of women. Abortion is ancillary to that topic. I suppose a similar example would be arguing over what particular method is used to kill a prisoner on a thread about the morality of the death penalty. I was simply comenting on a societal issue which impacts the human species in China and India, to a lesser extent in Australia and Canada. I suspect the drop in birth rate will eventually impact the rest of society as the sperm counts drop planet-wide from environmental toxins and people stop having children for various reasons. I am neutral about the emotional aspects of the situation. It is possible to describe a burning house without being emotionally charged about how evil fire is, feeling like God is punishing me for burning the house, or blaming a massive conspiracy for wiring the burning house with explosives. Interesting opinion. It is, however, just that, an opinion. It reminds me of the right-wing cutting of funding of a program which studied the sex-lives of long distance truckers. The study intended to track the spread of HIV by studying a sub-culture, yet was shot down by right wingers as being "valueless" research. I personally think it is important to do an epidemiological study of HIV in order to figure out how best to approach stopping it, but too many people have their knickers in a knot because the disease is on the list of sexually transmitted diseases. Therefore, we must all cover our eyes and pretend it will go away, apparently. As your is an opinion but I fail to see where HIV comes into it. quote:
ORIGINAL: Sinergy I would love to see your sources on this. Prostitution is the oldest profession because those who work in it, regardless of culture or society, possess a product the market desires. This has nothing to do with west or east. It has to do with poverty and need. Of course it is poverty and need and western militaries where ever they went in south east asia where more than happy to oblige in fullfilling the local need for cash with their need for sex. The western military and political leaders happily turn a blind eye to what their service men are doing. But then, my guess is they are just fullfilling a social service in the same way we were when we were exploiting them for their raw materials. As is western sex tourism in the far east.....sorry, it is not the west's fault it feeds these industries, that is just anpther social service. quote:
ORIGINAL: Sinergy One of the most arrogant things that many in the West do is assume that they imported something to other societies which already existed there before the west showed up. You dont think it is possible that women and men since the dawn of mankind spread their legs to barter for what they needed to survive? Or did this practice only come about with the rise of Western Culture circa the 15th Century? Sinergy Actually the proselytizing was referring to the import of Christianity which did create a proselytizing culture. Before the import of Christianity into northern Europe, north Europeans didn't send people around the world or what they knew of the world telling other people what they should believe. They were quite happy just cracking a few skulls. To say all peoples do this is beyond me because I don't ever recall a Bhudist, Shintoist or a Jew telling me how I should live my life, only christians and proselytizing liberals.
< Message edited by meatcleaver -- 8/21/2007 8:38:57 AM >
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