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RE: Is he a Real True Dom/Master or a phoney? - 7/12/2005 5:16:40 AM   
EmeraldSlave2


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I agree, three coukd be innocent causes for each item, but if a "Dum" exhiitiits three or more and the sunmissivr man/woman feels any unease THEY SHOULD RUN.

pleasyreforHIM

I think this is just more hyperbolistic advice we give to newbies which end up doing them more harm than good in the end.

If you feel things are going wrong, yes, communicate that and get yourself out of the situation.

But there's no need to run, no need to panic. I've seen people freak because they got a harsh EMAIL. Let's exercise some measure of good judgement and maturity. I think if we started giving newbies reasonable advice, without fear and paranoia, they are much more likely to simply settle into things rather than get all worked up and lead to all the complications, disillusions and other messes they get into.

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RE: Is he a Real True Dom/Master or a phoney? - 7/12/2005 9:27:05 AM   
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think this is just more hyperbolistic advice we give to newbies which end up doing them more harm than good in the end.

If you feel things are going wrong, yes, communicate that and get yourself out of the situation.

But there's no need to run, no need to panic. I've seen people freak because they got a harsh EMAIL. Let's exercise some measure of good judgement and maturity. I think if we started giving newbies reasonable advice, without fear and paranoia, they are much more likely to simply settle into things rather than get all worked up and lead to all the complications, disillusions and other messes they get into.


i have been on this site since about Jan '04. i would estimate that about 80% to 90% of the email i receive is from married men. Some are frank about it, and i always appreciate honesty...but we are not going to mate. Most lie. Elaborate, convincing lies. One kept it up for about a year. These men suck time and energy from me that they are not entitled to, and they sometimes want to meet in real life...meaning they want to have sex in real life, not just cyber.

There's one more way to protect yourself i failed to mention. Get a digital image of his driver's license and run a public records search in his residential state. If he owns property as tenants with rights of surviorship or similarly with a woman with the same last name, odds are astronomatical that is his wife.

pleasureforHim

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RE: Is he a Real True Dom/Master or a phoney? - 7/12/2005 10:04:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		pleasureforHim, I see nothing to indicate Emerald was taking a shot at anyone in her last post or that she was even directing it to you. In fact, I found her post to be refreshingly reasonable in the midst of some of what I've seen here. On that note, I actually came to respond to your earlier reply to me, but I find the juvenille shots to others rather distracting so I think I'll pass.

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RE: Is he a Real True Dom/Master or a phoney? - 7/12/2005 10:06:56 AM   
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Ah..Emerald finally got up the nerve to take a shot at me.


Hmm not sure what you mean there. You must have forgotten it was you who has yet to produce the shot you claim I so richly deserve.

RE: Is he a Real True Dom/Master or a phoney? - 7/11/2005 3:17:07 PM
"Emerald..the woman is not attracted to married men or nutters..the net is crawling with them and she fell prey. Get off your pedestal; Gawd you need a real smack. "

Anyone reading this thread would think you have some very odd cyber obsession with me.

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RE: Is he a Real True Dom/Master or a phoney? - 7/12/2005 1:46:37 PM   
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Anyone reading this thread would think you have some very odd cyber obsession with me.


Nothing odd about a good ol' cyber obsession for some smart, young, pretty thing... *wink*

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RE: Is he a Real True Dom/Master or a phoney? - 7/12/2005 4:08:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Seems to be at the point that it doesn't matter if he is for real. You are not getting what you need. People, relationships & plants are all the same...they either grow or die. Even as a Dom I don't invest in relationships unless they are moving ahead in a measurable way.

To hazzard a guess he is likely a married wannabe that can only be online when his wife isn't around.

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RE: Is he a Real True Dom/Master or a phoney? - 7/12/2005 4:20:44 PM   
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~A great BIG thank you to all of you on collar me who had taken some time to respond back to me on this concern!
yes i may be new, but i have learned some hard lessons in my 11 months in this lifestyle!
I appreacite ALL of the "Validation" i was looking for !
its just nice to know that so many people do care.........!
i knew my gut instincts were right, at the very first inclinations of his dishonesty!
with my email to him............i must have hit a "nerve" or "TWO" or "THREE"...................grins.............LOL as i have not heard one word back and that is truly fine with me.

he can fly away as far as his wings will take him............!!


Thank you all very much for you honesty and opinions!!

bunny............!!


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RE: Is he a Real True Dom/Master or a phoney? - 7/12/2005 7:54:20 PM   
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Hmm not sure what you mean there. You must have forgotten it was you who has yet to produce the shot you claim I so richly deserve.

RE: Is he a Real True Dom/Master or a phoney? - 7/11/2005 3:17:07 PM
"Emerald..the woman is not attracted to married men or nutters..the net is crawling with them and she fell prey. Get off your pedestal; Gawd you need a real smack. "

Anyone reading this thread would think you have some very odd cyber obsession with me.


Yanno in a way you're right Emerald..i have an obsession with people who hurt others...who give bad advice especially when implying no alternatives exist..and finally..i have an obsession with plain old fashioned cruelty..so when i encounter it i generally stand up for what i believe is right..and for some reason..you keep popping up all over my radar.

And i do not resort to gunplay, Emerald.

pleasureforHim

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RE: Is he a Real True Dom/Master or a phoney? - 7/12/2005 8:03:46 PM   
EmeraldSlave2


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ORIGINAL: pleasureforHim
Yanno in a way you're right Emerald..i have an obsession with people who hurt others...who give bad advice especially when implying no alternatives exist...who show signs of imbalance and need to control as part of that particular disorder...and finally..i have an obsession with plain old fashioned cruelty..so when i encounter it i generally stand up for what i believe is right..and for some reason..you keep popping up all over my radar.

And i do not resort to gunplay, Emerald.

pleasureforHim


And instead of DOING anything about it, you continue to fling cyber insults and empty cyber threat-like statements, despite my repeated invitations to do something REAL TIME and take REAL responsibility for your insults and feelings if you think I really am such a bad nasty little girl.

How can you expect anyone to take you seriously other than the other members of the "Liz Sucks Club" (Collarme Chapter) when that's what you continue to do?

But carry on, I love people who obsess about me. (I can hear the "I bet you do's" from here.) You are so ineffectual at trying to put me down and so good at making your own false un-scene-educated sweeping generalizations that you actually make me look more mature and knowledgeable than I do on my own.

TDAW- thanks muchly, I like the new B&W pic.

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RE: Is he a Real True Dom/Master or a phoney? - 7/12/2005 8:06:18 PM   
slavedesires


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There's one more way to protect yourself i failed to mention. Get a digital image of his driver's license and run a public records search in his residential state. If he owns property as tenants with rights of surviorship or similarly with a woman with the same last name, odds are astronomatical that is his wife.

pleasureforHim[/font][/size][/color]


just go to www.bazaserach.com put in his name, city and state and alot of information will come up...sometime even phone number!!

scarey tho isn't it? to thinka single website has your name street city and phone number on it?

looking over shoulder....

~~shy

oops...thanks kc692....... its www.bazasearch.com.....not as spelled before.....
my typso are so bad...thank you

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RE: Is he a Real True Dom/Master or a phoney? - 7/12/2005 8:21:39 PM   
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RE: Is he a Real True Dom/Master or a phoney? - 7/12/2005 9:32:32 PM   
pleasureforHim


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And instead of DOING anything about it, you continue to fling cyber insults and empty cyber threat-like statements, despite my repeated invitations to do something REAL TIME and take REAL responsibility for your insults and feelings if you think I really am such a bad nasty little girl.


First..what is a "cyber insult"? When i have criticized someone on the boards, i did not think it was somehow watered down. Gheesh; i do not want real names and street addresses to send messages to people.

Second..Emerald..whatever invitation you sent me got lost in the mail. You live in a state pretty far away from mine and i am disinclined to travel to meet you in person. i can be annoyed in real life here in Cleveland.

Third...when did i dodge responsibility for any criticism i made of your conduct on the boards? What further action are you goading me to take? (This is a bit bizarre.)

pleasureforHim


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RE: Is he a Real True Dom/Master or a phoney? - 7/13/2005 6:34:20 AM   
stormsfate


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Status: offline 		You know, fillepink...I thought you were a very kind person and very much enjoyed your posts before you started following around E and bashing her at every opportunity. Its almost like watching a replay of SirKennin following around LordandMaster and bashing him. I thought people outgrew this sort of thing after primary school, but I see that is not always the case.

The funny thing is, you are doing the same as you accuse her of doing.



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RE: Is he a Real True Dom/Master or a phoney? - 7/13/2005 7:29:09 AM   
pleasureforHim


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You know, fillepink...I thought you were a very kind person and very much enjoyed your posts before you started following around E and bashing her at every opportunity. Its almost like watching a replay of SirKennin following around LordandMaster and bashing him. I thought people outgrew this sort of thing after primary school, but I see that is not always the case.

The funny thing is, you are doing the same as you accuse her of doing.


Fate...Lam and Kenin have some "thing" going on none of us understands..apparently They both enjoy it or They'd stop.

As for my criticism of Emerald; i have found her to be cruel; ill-informed; and attention-seeking. There was virtually no topic on which she did not lay claim to expertise. My inbox has email from people..mainly women...thanking me for standing up to her because for whatever reason they were too distraught to do so. For example, a girl posted that she was in distress, and Emerald dismissed her due to spelling and grammar mistakes. Emerald was not the only offender who did this and i blistered each and every one. i have no "Emerald" fixation; i have a "hate speech" fixation; and some of what Emerald has posted in the past has fallen into that catagory.

However, i have noticed a change in her posts in recent days. She has actually been helpful and sometimes complimentary. So possibly things are going to improve on their own.

If You have a friendship with Emerald, i'd like nothing better than to 3way on Yahoo IM and try to reach an accord so that this round robin ends.

Now Fate, if you have any other suggestions i am listening. However, allowing hate speech to go unanswered is not an option.

pleasureforHim

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RE: Is he a Real True Dom/Master or a phoney? - 7/13/2005 7:31:48 AM   
redpetals


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Status: offline 		whoa..what was the question?..hello Fate ..good to see you..i have a question,is cyber training a valid process in training a sub,it feels real..but does anyone here have any actual experience with the results of this?

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RE: Is he a Real True Dom/Master or a phoney? - 7/13/2005 7:34:56 AM   
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whoa..what was the question?..hello Fate ..good to see you..i have a question,is cyber training a valid process in training a sub,it feels real..but does anyone here have any actual experience with the results of this?

It's valid in training them in cyber training, not terribly much valid in training them in real life training issues.


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RE: Is he a Real True Dom/Master or a phoney? - 7/13/2005 7:55:51 AM   
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You know, fillepink...I thought you were a very kind person and very much enjoyed your posts before you started following around E and bashing her at every opportunity. Its almost like watching a replay of SirKennin following around LordandMaster and bashing him. I thought people outgrew this sort of thing after primary school, but I see that is not always the case.

The funny thing is, you are doing the same as you accuse her of doing.



f





fillepink=pleasureforHim ? ? ? ? ? ? ? are these one and the same person? If so I agree. I enjoyed fillepinks approach to people a whole lot more than I am pleasureforHim's approach, I don't fine emeralslaves approach all that offending at times depending on my mood a bit strong, but it could be my mood is more timid that day or perhaps even emeraldslave is having an offstep day, either way we all have a way of communicating some sugar coat and others are more direct, and sometimes more direct is the way to be, with this being said as I communicate with sexysubbunny on the other side, I don't think she is too easily offended, for I have told her how I feel directly about different things we discuse and she has told me directly how she feels she is tougher than you think, pleasureforhim, and yes there are subs out there who do seem to need a sister sub to walk thru this with them, (my reallife sis is one and that is what I am doing with her) They are very unsure of themselves and what they seek, but sexysubbunny isn't one, a bit over enthusiastic, but even she learned fast as she stated, I think perhaps pleasureforhim you may have just taken emeraldslave the wrong way and now that she has called you on it you won't back down and from what I have read with emerald she won't either, emerald is being honest in her way and by the way when is it wrong to share your opinion? thought that is what these forums were for, if you don't like the delivery person don't shoot him, just go on.

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RE: Is he a Real True Dom/Master or a phoney? - 7/13/2005 8:53:44 AM   
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whoa..what was the question?..hello Fate ..good to see you..i have a question,is cyber training a valid process in training a sub,it feels real..but does anyone here have any actual experience with the results of this?


i have had cyber-training experience -- twice -- both times because i admired the Doms or Masters and found myself saying "yes" to something that was wrong for me. Both ended disasterously for all involved. i guess real life is my only option.

To stormsfate, subcheryl, and especially to Emerald; i acknowledged in my last post that i had noticed a change in Emerald's posts and that i had found her to be helpful and sometimes complimentary. i also said Emerald had never been the only "target" of the back of my tongue; anyone who was cruel to someone vunerable, etc. got the same treatment.

Anyone willing and able to do a 3way Yahoo IM with Emerald and i is welcome to try and work out some of our differences and try to reach an accord.

pleasureforHim

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RE: Is he a Real True Dom/Master or a phoney? - 7/13/2005 9:04:04 AM   
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As for my criticism of Emerald; i have found her to be cruel; ill-informed; and attention-seeking. ...

i have no "Emerald" fixation; i have a "hate speech" fixation; and some of what Emerald has posted in the past has fallen into that catagory.




I'm curious as to why you find it acceptable for you to use hate speech with regard to E while at the same time stating how much you loathe hate speech. Its like the pot calling the kettle black.

There is a difference between cruelty and honesty...and she is bluntly honest about her impressions for sure and apparently feels no need to fluff things up for people who are overly sensative. Ill-informed? Not in my opinion. She has an amazing wealth of knowledge and experience for someone of her age, and while I don't always agree, I can't see how disagreeing with someone's opinion makes them ill-informed. Attention seeking? Absolutely and she is the first to admit it.

As for further suggestions...I would suggest that if someone has an issue with E or with anyone else, they don't follow them around the board and each time they post take pot shots. If you have issues with someone's ideals...by all means, attack the issues...not the person.

I'll yahoo with you any time. As for a three way... resolving this issue is between you and her.


f


*Edited to add:

Hey there, redpetals!!!! Nice to see you posting :)

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RE: Is he a Real True Dom/Master or a phoney? - 7/13/2005 10:00:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		pleasureforHim,

I don't know either of you, so allow me to share an observation I've made as an outsider who is not affiliated with any member of collarme. I find the juvenille commentaries towards Emerald in the midst of intelligent, adult discussions far more offensive and distracting than anything she has to say.



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