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RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent - 8/28/2007 4:04:34 PM   
Celeste43


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Status: offline 		So you're there to do the dishes and not for any emotional/romantic attachment. And you're happy because you're getting what you want/need. Great!

I'm here not to do dishes or laundry or pick up abandoned socks all over the freakin house (although I do that) but for an emotional/romantic attachment. Without that attachment he could pick up his own socks. I'm happy because I'm getting what I want/need.

So how about this. You don't tell me what I should need in my relationship and I won't tell you what you should need in yours. Because there is no should in the human heart.

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RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent - 8/28/2007 4:16:41 PM   
cloudboy


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Status: offline 		Bitter people roll through collar me in all shapes and sizes. Malesubs don't whine any more than Dommes, DOMS, or femsubs. I really don't see the whiney male sub thing out there at all. What are you guys talking about?

I'm with HBS.

Complaints about PRO's have a legitmate place alongside the old standbyes of cheaters, do me's, and "no one reads my profile," "no one answers my email," "all I get are one-liners," don't send me a penis shot, and "I'm so sick and tired...." etc.

Also, if you're gonna rant, why not name names. At least that gives a gossipy, petty, juicy tint to the complaint --- till the mods strike it.

I frankly, salute the malesubs.




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RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent - 8/28/2007 5:20:10 PM   
petdave


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Status: offline 		Hm... so complaining is frowned upon, but complaining about complaining gets you all sorts of leghumping.
Fascinating.

i see that people complaining about the complaining about the complaining don't seem to be getting a lot of benefit from it...
So how 'bout this:

i think the people complaining, about you complaining, about the submissives complaining, suck.

There! Is that sexy, or what?

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RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent - 8/28/2007 5:25:17 PM   
CuriousLord


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Status: offline 		No worries.  It's just one of those silly whiney threads.  You're far from alone in realizing that whining about whining doesn't make it any less of whining.

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RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent - 8/28/2007 5:45:46 PM   
Aine


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Celeste43

So you're there to do the dishes and not for any emotional/romantic attachment. And you're happy because you're getting what you want/need. Great!

I'm here not to do dishes or laundry or pick up abandoned socks all over the freakin house (although I do that) but for an emotional/romantic attachment. Without that attachment he could pick up his own socks. I'm happy because I'm getting what I want/need.

So how about this. You don't tell me what I should need in my relationship and I won't tell you what you should need in yours. Because there is no should in the human heart.


Where was she telling you that?

I see her telling the whiners about not being happy and not voicing their needs to buck the eff up and do something about it.


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RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent - 8/28/2007 5:56:13 PM   
DiurnalVampire


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ORIGINAL: DrkJourney
It drives me totally insane when I am "trying" to negotiate with a prospective slave, and all I get is, "I am submissive, I am into whatever the Domme is into, it's their call"   or the famous  "I don't have limits it's all about what "you" want"


Whenever I  used to get this, I used to make sure that anything I thought they might HATE I tried first. Once they objected, Id say "See, you DO have preferences... now let's talk"

My partners are not always about romance. Actualy, very infrequently are they about romance. Angel is my baby. Kitten was my pain pet. No romance on either, really. I have given up Kitten for school, and realized that the number of whiny S-types increases when you are looking to add them to a family rather than focusing on them. I made it realy clear form the get go that Angel was not a variable, he was not going anywhere.  This was seen as a challenge rather than an absolute.

So, to add to what Jen ranted about... how about those that bitchy and whine when wedont get as attached to them as they do to us, even when we have told them from the beginning we weren't going to get attached?

DV

**edited to add this doesnt refer simply to malesubs.  This refers to any of the S-types that whine after I have been as frank as I cn possibly be.  Thi isnt gender-specific... it comes from both sides. **


< Message edited by DiurnalVampire -- 8/28/2007 5:58:16 PM >

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RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent - 8/28/2007 6:08:36 PM   
WinsomeDefiance


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quote:

ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire

quote:

ORIGINAL: DrkJourney
It drives me totally insane when I am "trying" to negotiate with a prospective slave, and all I get is, "I am submissive, I am into whatever the Domme is into, it's their call"   or the famous  "I don't have limits it's all about what "you" want"


Whenever I  used to get this, I used to make sure that anything I thought they might HATE I tried first. Once they objected, Id say "See, you DO have preferences... now let's talk"

My partners are not always about romance. Actualy, very infrequently are they about romance. Angel is my baby. Kitten was my pain pet. No romance on either, really. I have given up Kitten for school, and realized that the number of whiny S-types increases when you are looking to add them to a family rather than focusing on them. I made it realy clear form the get go that Angel was not a variable, he was not going anywhere.  This was seen as a challenge rather than an absolute.

So, to add to what Jen ranted about... how about those that bitchy and whine when wedont get as attached to them as they do to us, even when we have told them from the beginning we weren't going to get attached?

DV

**edited to add this doesnt refer simply to malesubs.  This refers to any of the S-types that whine after I have been as frank as I cn possibly be.  Thi isnt gender-specific... it comes from both sides. **



Back when I was certain I was a submissive and talking to my first "Dom" boyfriend, I said that same thing, "I don't have limits, I just want to please you."  Jim said, "ok," stood up and grabbed a HUGE baseball bat and told me to bend over.  He did NOT intend on using it for batting practice, is all I'm going to say here.  Yep, I learned very quickly I did have limits and claiming that I didn't was just silly.


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RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent - 8/28/2007 7:33:29 PM   
angelic


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ORIGINAL: CuriousLord

No worries.  It's just one of those silly whiney threads.  You're far from alone in realizing that whining about whining doesn't make it any less of whining.


i am gonna go out on a limb here and say,  i do not think you are gonna get many hugs... (although i agree with you 100%).

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RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent - 8/28/2007 8:17:05 PM   
hardbodysub


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bella1965

G'afternoon all:


quote:

ORIGINAL: hardbodysub
Why do you get so upset about it? Just let it go. Not everyone signs up for the same thing you do. That's where you miss the point.


It's moments like these that the OP was referring to. This pearl coming from a so-called submissive whose profile reads like a "do-me" laundry list of fetishes. Makes a lady want to slam a fool into a brick wall and tap dance on his skull. Might shake some sense into that echoing cavern of a brain pan.

For the record hardbodysub? The OP nailed it to the cross with a railroad spike. You missed it by a mile. Female dominants get sick of the whiny male subs. Apparently even switches get tired of the bitch fest these special individuals constantly produce. There are a few exceptions to the rule, granted ( I possess such an exception.) They prove the case though.

Jen, thank you for having the courage to declare it boldly. Nice to see someone not mince words.


Stay safe, play nice, & share your toys w/ others...





Bella


Bella, you can believe what you want, but in some ways you don't have a clue.

I didn't question at all the dislike for whiny subs, and I understand exactly where all this ire is coming from. I just think this whole thing gets overblown, and some of the things that are said seem pretty hypocritical. Constantly whining about constant whiners. Get it? But you didn't see that, and decided to make it personal. Frankly, I don't really care what you think, but I'll try to explain something to you just this once.

You seem to love attacking me, and the "type" of sub I am, but you don't even seem to understand the meaning of the interests lists in a profile. Interests are just that - interests. Not demands, not things a sub requires from a dom/me, just interests. The fact that I won't sub to just any fart who calls herself a domme, that she has to be someone who has a special quality to make me want to submit, doesn't make me a "do-me" sub either. I'm not even close to that, but you're so blinded by your own prejudices that you'd never see it.

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RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent - 8/28/2007 8:25:03 PM   
hardbodysub


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Status: offline 		Celeste, cloudboy, petdave, and CuriousLord, your posts are exactly what I've been thinking. I hadn't read your posts before I wrote my last one, or I wouldn't have even bothered with mine. All I saw was back-patting for the OP, and it was starting to seem a little ridiculous.

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RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent - 8/28/2007 10:42:18 PM   
BoiJen


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Status: offline 		yeah I'm gonna be selective about the posts I'm responding to here. If you don't like the thread jump off. I don't much care the reason why. And if you feel liek you're in a minority in not liking it then be prepared to hear what an ass you are from the majority who happen to enjoy the thread. And vice versa. I don't much care. I choose to post cuz I damned well felt like it.

JS I'll tell the Lady in Charge you said hello. If there's a specific place She might know you from feel free to drop a line to my profile or to Her's. She'll get the message.

As for the romance bit. If it's for you then fine. Whatever. The romance bit is why I choose not to identify as a "submissive" perse. I'm not romantically attached and I prefer it that way. For me it isn't about compromise. I didn't sign up for Her to compromise so that things are anywhere close to even. I signed up for Her to be in chanrge and to indulge me as She sees fit. My moments of indulgence tend to be rewards. I'm grateful. I feel like having a romantic involvement would hinder that. I'm not opposed to it I'm just not looking for it. Which also happens to make Her life easier as well. All around goodness there.

And for those who are being specific to the malesub group...I said s-types. That includes the whiney crying bitchy girls who didn't say "no Daddy I don't wanna share" in the first place and now have to.This aint about just one crowd. Please also check out the added post about the D-types who bitch about not getting their ways. We all have to deal with not getting our way some of the time. That's life. What you do with your time and how productive you are after not getting your way is what matters. "It's not who are inside that matters, it's what you do"-from a Batman movie I think....I dunno. But it sounds good damnit.

BTW-thank you everyone, even you mad fuckers (everyone's a fucker in my world don't be offended), for responding. Shit stirring is fun sometimes.


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RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent - 8/28/2007 10:55:58 PM   
BoiJen


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ORIGINAL: chellekitty

hey Jen...cleaned that strap-on yet? cause now i'm horny...again....hmm that might be a more common than not state for me though....


yes my dick is clean now

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RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent - 8/28/2007 11:08:39 PM   
chellekitty


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quote:

ORIGINAL: BoiJen

BTW-thank you everyone, even you mad fuckers (everyone's a fucker in my world don't be offended), for responding. Shit stirring is fun sometimes.



i've been calling everyone fuckers too lately...but unfortunately in my head its accompanied by my ex's voice screaming out the window of a moving car to a couple walking down the street "fuck her, i did!"  which results in fits of laughter which can't be explained to anyone cause if you say "fuck her, i did" they slowly back away while keeping an eye on you....
oh and *does a happy dance cause i got a special individual reply* (and by happy dance i mean strip tease)
chelle

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RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent - 8/29/2007 12:52:05 AM   
adoracat


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quote:

ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire

My partners are not always about romance. Actualy, very infrequently are they about romance. Angel is my baby. Kitten was my pain pet. No romance on either, really. I have given up Kitten for school, and realized that the number of whiny S-types increases when you are looking to add them to a family rather than focusing on them. I made it realy clear form the get go that Angel was not a variable, he was not going anywhere.  This was seen as a challenge rather than an absolute.

So, to add to what Jen ranted about... how about those that bitchy and whine when wedont get as attached to them as they do to us, even when we have told them from the beginning we weren't going to get attached?

DV

**edited to add this doesnt refer simply to malesubs.  This refers to any of the S-types that whine after I have been as frank as I cn possibly be.  Thi isnt gender-specific... it comes from both sides. **



*smiles*  see, i *know* me, and i know i would get attached, and need the same level of affection/love/attachment in return.  i'd see what you wrote above, and be happy because i then could make the informed decision that no, i was not a match for a dominant that operated as you do, DV.

that isnt to say your method is wrong, tis just not what i need.  and that's what talking and negotiations and getting to know one another is all about, to get to the point that you can make an informed decision.

kitten

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RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent - 8/29/2007 6:26:06 AM   
goddessAVA


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Status: offline 		All you haters-BoiJen is so fucking adorable and we LOVE the boi sooooooooo much you are just jealous!

What I love about this topic is it's so rarely discussed from this angle.  I LOVE casual play, I am not looking for any serious romance myself, its all fun and yes lacks that "deep soulful spiritual" love connection-am I perverting the 'true' object of bdsm?  I never deny that I am a total perv.......

Every friggin day a new thread about Dommes and $ springs up-always with the pro and/or tribute requiring Dommes patiently explaining their reasoning and view points so as not to get squashed completely in the cacaphony of condemnation, with little support from the subs who gladly rush to use our services.  Is this thread whining about whining? Yes but it is a vastly different whine then the one so commonly accepted and expressed  and as such I applaud!

I am proud to be a pro, I love bdsm, will post and reply with reckless abandon whenever I want.
Now let the bullets fly!!!!!!!!

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RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent - 8/29/2007 6:52:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		Great thread through and through ...




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RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent - 8/29/2007 7:05:48 AM   
mercmjm


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Status: offline 		I must say that that first post from boi is just a bunch of bs.  Now I understand if you are a professional domme, thats your bread and butter.  But if you are not professional, then I must say who the hell are you to charge someone 50 or a 100 bucks at the word hello.  Maybe I misunderstood what boi said, if so please tell me, but if I did not then I must say those domme's are partly what is ruining this lifestyle and they disgust me.

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RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent - 8/29/2007 7:54:25 AM   
LaTigresse


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ORIGINAL: mercmjm

I must say that that first post from boi is just a bunch of bs.  Now I understand if you are a professional domme, thats your bread and butter.  But if you are not professional, then I must say who the hell are you to charge someone 50 or a 100 bucks at the word hello.  Maybe I misunderstood what boi said, if so please tell me, but if I did not then I must say those domme's are partly what is ruining this lifestyle and they disgust me.


Awwww, you poor lil thang.........do you need some cheese and crackers to go with that?

GET OVER YOURSELF! Do you have any clue AT ALL how much the anti pro thing has been beaten?

Here's the thing kidlets.......I am not a pro, just not my thing. There are alot of Domme's on here that are not pros, AND there are alot that are. Now here is the golden key (not that your going to get the big picture but hey, I am gonna try ) ..... Alot of those of us that are not pros are friends with, admire, have respect for.......yep, you got it.........those that ARE PRO!! Helloooooooo, what have you not learned yet!!!!!??!!!!! We communicate!! Didn't you learn one fucking thing at your momma's knee? Women communicate! Really cool women stick together, friends and all yanno!

Soooooo, all that being said. The next time you want to bring your pathetic little whiney asses around and start bitching and moaning about pros being the evil of the flipping world, stop and think for a nano second. Maybe the Domme/Mistress of your dreams is actually very good friends with a pro. And trust me, given the high number of whiney sub/slaves there are pretty good odds they are going to pass up the ones that insult their friends, DUHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

Because you know what....... half ass whiney sub/slaves come and go. Good friends, well........good friends will be with you for years, through all the good and bad sub/slaves.

Sheesh..........do we have to hit you over the head with a clue here?

< Message edited by LaTigresse -- 8/29/2007 7:56:18 AM >

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RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent - 8/29/2007 8:52:30 AM   
chellekitty


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Status: offline 		oooo now you're turning me on Ma'am....next hot toy - a clue!  how do we market it?

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RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent - 8/29/2007 8:53:21 AM   
LaTigresse


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Status: offline 		With a 2x4?

What should we charge, $50.00 an inch? Doing the math now.......a standard 8 foot 2x4 upside the head would cost them......$4,800.00. Sounds fair to me.


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My twisted, self deprecating, sense of humour, finds alot to laugh about, in your lack of one!

Just because you are well educated, articulate, and can use big, fancy words, properly........does not mean you are right!

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