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BoiJen -> Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent (8/28/2007 8:47:54 AM)

I'm so fuckin sick and tired of s-types bitching about Dommes charging money or not getting their way or just plain being unhappy.

1. If a Domme charges money even for first contact get over it. If you want it pay it. It doesn't make Her any less of a Domme it means Her time and energy is important and valuable. Which you should know already.

2. If you're unhappy DO something about it. We all made a choice to be where we are today. You have a choice to get up and go if the person you serve wants another play partner/servant/whatever. You don't have to share if you don't want to. Leaving is your choice.

3. Don't use 2 as a manipulative gesture...that's called Topping from the bottom.

Lastly, THEY are the one's in charge not your ass. It's about what they want that's what you signed up for so don't bitch about it. If you didn't negotiate something that would be YOUR fault for not establishing the boundary. Take responsibility for your own happiness and don't pin bad scenes on a Top or non-aftercare or ignorance of your feelings when you haven't explained it like a 3 year old. Hinting at something is NOT telling someone you need it.




ShiftedJewel -> RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent (8/28/2007 9:13:27 AM)

I think I love you...

Jewel




LaTigresse -> RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent (8/28/2007 9:18:10 AM)

Me too.




GhitaAmati -> RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent (8/28/2007 9:20:28 AM)

Ive been lusting over Jen for ages.......




LaTigresse -> RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent (8/28/2007 9:24:40 AM)

It is that naughty look on the face combined with that wonderful attitude.....makes ya just wanna grab her, slam her down, and have your wicked way.




hardbodysub -> RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent (8/28/2007 9:33:18 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoiJen

I'm so fuckin sick and tired of s-types bitching about Dommes charging money or not getting their way or just plain being unhappy.

1. If a Domme charges money even for first contact get over it. If you want it pay it. It doesn't make Her any less of a Domme it means Her time and energy is important and valuable. Which you should know already.

2. If you're unhappy DO something about it. We all made a choice to be where we are today. You have a choice to get up and go if the person you serve wants another play partner/servant/whatever. You don't have to share if you don't want to. Leaving is your choice.

3. Don't use 2 as a manipulative gesture...that's called Topping from the bottom.

Lastly, THEY are the one's in charge not your ass. It's about what they want that's what you signed up for so don't bitch about it. If you didn't negotiate something that would be YOUR fault for not establishing the boundary. Take responsibility for your own happiness and don't pin bad scenes on a Top or non-aftercare or ignorance of your feelings when you haven't explained it like a 3 year old. Hinting at something is NOT telling someone you need it.


Why do you get so upset about it? Just let it go. Not everyone signs up for the same thing you do. That's where you miss the point.




Rover -> RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent (8/28/2007 9:47:03 AM)

Ok, I'll stand in line for a little lovin'.  Would you mind tackling the whiney bitchy D-types next?
 
John




BoiJen -> RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent (8/28/2007 9:51:54 AM)

That's easy...

If there's an emotional/romatic attachment then seek therapy. If there's not then kick their asses in line. That's what YOU signed up for ain't it? That or tell 'em to leave.

We cannot read your minds. You gotta tell us what you want. That whole anticipate your needs thing is bullshit as much as a s-type expecting you to be a knight in shining leather.

PS> That whole leaving thing...if you don't do it for real and it's only used as a threat then it's manipulative...and your partner...s-type or D-type won't believe it for too long. Resentment is a bad thing in any kind of relationship.




Rover -> RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent (8/28/2007 9:53:12 AM)

I love you.  Please have my baby.
 
John




MHOO314 -> RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent (8/28/2007 9:53:24 AM)

WooHoo, Buy that babe a martini![sm=banana.gif]




MHOO314 -> RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent (8/28/2007 9:55:15 AM)

quote:

Why do you get so upset about it? Just let it go. Not everyone signs up for the same thing you do. That's where you miss the point.


I believe her point, is--- fine if someone signs up for it and gets burned, stop coming to the boards and crying about how bad they were  treated.




Bella1965 -> RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent (8/28/2007 10:00:55 AM)

G'afternoon all:


quote:

ORIGINAL: hardbodysub
Why do you get so upset about it? Just let it go. Not everyone signs up for the same thing you do. That's where you miss the point.


It's moments like these that the OP was referring to. This pearl coming from a so-called submissive whose profile reads like a "do-me" laundry list of fetishes. Makes a lady want to slam a fool into a brick wall and tap dance on his skull. Might shake some sense into that echoing cavern of a brain pan.

For the record hardbodysub? The OP nailed it to the cross with a railroad spike. You missed it by a mile. Female dominants get sick of the whiny male subs. Apparently even switches get tired of the bitch fest these special individuals constantly produce. There are a few exceptions to the rule, granted ( I possess such an exception.) They prove the case though.

Jen, thank you for having the courage to declare it boldly. Nice to see someone not mince words. [;)]


Stay safe, play nice, & share your toys w/ others...


[:D]


Bella




Hime -> RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent (8/28/2007 10:03:07 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoiJen
Hinting at something is NOT telling someone you need it.



Bravo!
Simply and very well said.

~ xoxo




Lashra -> RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent (8/28/2007 10:05:04 AM)

Beautifully said and very true.. I'll stand in line to give her a smooch.[:)]

~Lashra




Vigilantejustice -> RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent (8/28/2007 10:08:03 AM)

Ah-Freaking-Men! Can I get a witness?!
Disclaimer: Pronouns are used exclusively for the purpose of not having to write out "Dominant" and "submissive" every five words. Gender is not the issue here, and if it makes you happy replace "he" with "she" or "tentacle monster." Whatever is appropriate for your situation. <grins>

Circumstance 1: In The Beginning
No, it's not fun to negotiate sometimes. Yes, it can be tedious to hammer out details of what everyone expects.  It's even less fun to have your partner host a massive freak-out out of the blue because you said/did/didn't say/do something that you didn't know was an issue and they've been keeping it bottled up for however long. People in *any* kind of relationship, whether work or home, lifestyle or vanilla, need to communicate. Just because you need to get permission from your Master to speak doesn't mean he won't ever let you, especially if he finds out it's important. Personally, I'd much rather have my sub "break protocol" and talk to me openly than experience the fall out from silence later by possibly losing him for no good reason. Hopefully I'm not alone in that.

Circumstance 2: Life Was Never What It Used To Be.
"I did negotiate, but now (insert circumstance) and my feelings/wants/needs/limits have changed!" Well funny thing... we don't use stone tablets anymore. Contracts and the like can (and should) be rewritten every now and again. It is not a huge deal to look at your partner and say (insert protocol as appropriate), "I want you to know that this is what I feel/think/want/need. I would really appreciate it if you/we could consider this and work something out *before* it becomes an issue."  Wow! That was respectful, honest, and it said what it needed to in order to help get the issue considered, if not resolved. I don't know of a dominant in a significant relationship (or even a minor one) who would be upset that their sub wants to fix something so she can stay with him and be happy doing it. Most dominants I've known want their companions to be happy on some level, if only for the sake that it makes the dominant's life much easier!

I guess what it boils down to, new relationship or old, is communication. Learn it, love it, live it. It can save you a whole lot of trouble in the long run.

Wow, that got a bit rambly...
Just my 2p. (Not adjusted for inflation)
-Justice




DarkDaddyZ -> RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent (8/28/2007 11:35:55 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoiJen

I'm so fuckin sick and tired of s-types bitching about Dommes charging money or not getting their way or just plain being unhappy.

1. If a Domme charges money even for first contact get over it. If you want it pay it. It doesn't make Her any less of a Domme it means Her time and energy is important and valuable. Which you should know already.

2. If you're unhappy DO something about it. We all made a choice to be where we are today. You have a choice to get up and go if the person you serve wants another play partner/servant/whatever. You don't have to share if you don't want to. Leaving is your choice.

3. Don't use 2 as a manipulative gesture...that's called Topping from the bottom.

Lastly, THEY are the one's in charge not your ass. It's about what they want that's what you signed up for so don't bitch about it. If you didn't negotiate something that would be YOUR fault for not establishing the boundary. Take responsibility for your own happiness and don't pin bad scenes on a Top or non-aftercare or ignorance of your feelings when you haven't explained it like a 3 year old. Hinting at something is NOT telling someone you need it.

You go, boi![:D]




MsKittyBlack -> RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent (8/28/2007 12:04:20 PM)

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iammachine -> RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent (8/28/2007 12:09:13 PM)

quote:

even switches get tired of the bitch fest these special individuals constantly produce


Special is right, and we have the honor of getting it from both sides!




BoiJen -> RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent (8/28/2007 12:10:44 PM)

I hate when I do that. For those who don't know MsKittyBlack is the Owner of this boi. And I'm assigned to checking Her mails and filtering and what not for this site so sign on is sometimes mixed up...now for what my post was supposed to be:

For those who I haven't had an in depth conversation with...I identify as a servant. Yup that means s-type. I'm yer friggin peer. The switch part refers to my play choices as I have as much of a sadistic streak as a masochistic one. And collarme only allows people to identify as submissive or dominant or switch...and I'm not submissive. I'ma servant. Fuck that romantic shit I'm here to do the dishes.

D-types who saw my message earlier, I get that people are creatures of habit and our needs also change on a daily basis. Anticipation can be a bad thing if we anticipate the wrong thing right? So please be clear about what it is you're expecting from your respective s-type.

And for everybody who isn't finding what it is they want on the web thenw ell you found your problem. It's the web...way too much room for error. Do yourself a favor and get involved in your local communities. You'd be surprised what they could do for you.




iammachine -> RE: Whiney Bitchy S-types- a vent (8/28/2007 12:12:43 PM)

quote:

You go, boi!


Ditto that! [:D]




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