thompsonx
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ORIGINAL: Marc2b quote:
No ideological filter to turn off. Just read what I said and don't take one sentence out and try to change the meaning of my post. You assert that a for profit corporation should not be compelled by the government to do anything. I contend that as long as they are getting a monopoly from the government they must dance to the governments tune. quote:
I am not confusing anything. It has nothing to do with could or should but rather the right of the government to impose conditions on a government licensed monopoly. Yes it does. How many times do I have to say this before it penetrates? I am not disputing that government has certain, legitimate, powers and authority either in general or in this particular concerning cell phones and the licencing of airwaves. I am disputing whether the mandating of universal cell phone coverage is ideal. Moreover, I question why some people are always so quick to turn to the government for redress of every problem, particularly in light of the fact that the redress of their problem may cause problems for others. You are the one talking about universal cell phone coverage. Neither Synergy nor I have suggested it. The reason that citizens seek for the government to stand up for them against the corporation that has broken its contract is because that is governments job...It is why we hire them. quote:
No we are not. We are talking about the government having the authority to impose conditions on a government licensed monopoly and nothing else. Once again you are attempting to control the debate (oops, I’m sorry, discussion) by attempting to have sole control over defining it away from other people’s points that you don’t like. That would be exactly what you are doing by taking Synergy's position about lack of coverage in Los Angeles county and trying to make it a universal coverage question. quote:
This is a misscharacterization of my position. When I point out historical fact I am simply pointing out historical fact. Lets not let your idealogical filter confuse you...how about you pay attention to what I say and not what you want to hear. No, I do not believe it is a mis-characterization. In almost every situation where someone points out some mis-deed by some other country you jump in with some "historical fact" putting the blame on America. So it would appear that you consider historical facts less important than your opinion. quote:
Once again this is not about universal cell phone coverage but about the right of the sanctioning body to impose conditions on the monopoly they are conferring. Once again, no it is not. quote:
No one has asserted a "right" to cell phone service. Well it sure as hell seemed implied to me when someone wanted the government to step in and provide universal coverage because they couldn’t get service where they worked. Synergy works in Los Angeles county,one of the most densely populated areas in the U.S. Just because you wish to imply that that means universal coverage does not make it so. quote:
If those seeking a government sanctioned monopoly cannot afford the terms of the monopoly then they are free to not apply for one...aint free enterprise grand? And if they already have a licence and the government suddenly changes the terms (impose, to use your word), terms which the company cannot fulfill, thus putting them out of business, leaving there customers in the lurch, and their employees out of a job? Isn’t government power grand? You get to totally fuck over people and not be held accountable. The corporations do it all the time. If you read the last paragraph of most contracts it will most often state that the company retains the right to change any and all aspects of the contract pretty much at will. If you do not like it you are free to terminate your service. quote:
Once again a misscharacterization of my position. The only "uber rich" that have rankled me are those who use their wealth to avoid paying taxes. As long as the rich (uber or otherwise) pay their taxes and obey the law you have nothing against them? I’m sorry, but I have a hard time believing that. I do not know why. I have stated that position on numerous occasions. Perhaps it is your ideological filter that keeps you from believing what I say. Why don't you go back over my post and see if you can find someplace where I say otherwise. quote:
Do you presume that all poor people live in trailer parks and speak with a drawl....how droll. This is what I’ve come to enjoy your posts so much. Somewhere along the line you can always be counted on to take something out of context, treat it as an absolute, then rewrite it in the form of a question that implies bigotry. My post does not imply bigotry. It simply ask the question "do you believe that all poor people live in trailer parks and speak with a drawl?" Oh, by the way, I’m half Hick and throughly proud of it. What does being a "hick" have to do with being poor? quote:
Once again a misscharacterization of my position and once again something taken out of context. No. It was actually me parodying you. Perhaps you might want to label it as such next time.
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