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RE: cost of 24-7? - 10/4/2007 5:20:25 AM

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I believe Anna Nicole said it best, "It's expensive to be Me."

Others have said it well, so I won't add to their fine arguments. I do want to add a remark re Alice of the Brady Bunch. Yes, she was a live in domestic. For SIX children, and three adults. I don't recall if the Bradys had a dog. Any idea how long it takes to cook, clean, do laundry, and babysit for that many people? I've met female slaves whose job it was to be the housekeeper/nanny, and they did it well. How many males would fill that position adequately? How many households really NEED live in help?

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RE: cost of 24-7? - 10/4/2007 3:02:58 PM

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Yes, they did. i believe it was Tiger and came with the male 1/2 of the family.

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RE: cost of 24-7? - 10/5/2007 5:19:41 PM

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*fast reply* and this isnt meant to start an problem .. on what seems like a touchy subject already.

My situation - soon (hopefully) to be live-in 24/7 with Sir. He wants me to go to school full - time and not have to work if I dont want to. If I want to, and it doesnt interfear with service and grades, then I will be allowed to work part-time. And then in 2 1/2 years when I finally graduate, He only wants me to work 1 or 2 days a week, so it wont interfear with service to Him. And with that paycheck of 12 to 24 hours..I can cover my health insurance, old debts of mine (student loans mostly), treats for myself (or Him <g>) and such. Mainly...He doesnt like Im taking so long now to get my degrees (Because I work full time and can only swing PT school now), and He wants me to be available for His needs.

I think its ideal. I like domestication..and enjoy doing all the household stuff (it would be my job) and really want to finish my degree (BSN in nursing).Clinicals wont be a cake-walk either....

Does this make my Owner..a Sugar Daddy tho? and because Im happy with this situation - am I a gold-digger? or any such term?

[For the record, He gets a housekeeper in twice a week at 200, and orders take out EVERY night, so aside from the money saved at Merry Maids and Vito's Pizza Shop, its alot healthier too. .... so Im an economic solution, ;) ]

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RE: cost of 24-7? - 10/5/2007 7:16:03 PM

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If I could afford a chef, a lawn boy, housecleaner, laundry person and any other laborer that you mentioned then I probably could afford to do away with them and figure that into a submissive's insurance, schooling, and general bills. But it so happens that I do not have that sort of hired help around, so instead like someone else posted, I do my share, (I like working the acreage and taking care of the outside of the house) each adult takes care of their own bills, and each would contribute equally to the household.

Play and relationships are a separate issue and are considered “relaxing” time in our household. Yes I expect the extra pampering still being as this is what would be set up, up front. Being a sub is not always easy. I am one of those that have said "I can't afford a non working slave" to maintain a slave's education, insurance and general expenses can be quite involved financially if it is done correctly.. and if there is medical issues well I won’t even get into that…. If you don't like the arrangement, don't enter into it. It is that simple. Perhaps if you keep looking you will find that golden Domina at the end of your rainbow.

edit to say, If someone can support a submissive completely more power to them, and that is what I am saying about it being done right.. schooling insurance, depts living expenses etc...but it is rarer and rarer these days.

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RE: cost of 24-7? - 10/9/2007 6:18:57 AM

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ORIGINAL: free2agoodhome

I have come across a few dominants who say they can't 'afford' a fultime slave unless the slaves brings in $, and holds a 40 hr/week job.

This puzzles me, since for one, when a slave holds a 40hr/week job there is not much time to do other things. At the same time when a slave performs duties these duties dont need to be contracted with strangers, like a cleaning lady ($30 - $40/hr) , personal chef ($40/hr), handy man/plumber/electrician/painter ($40 - $75/hr), Yard maintenance ($25/hr), Doing laundry / dishes etc. so when a slave serves fulltime does the slave not save $ .......where is my logic going wrong?

Or do these dominants just want a slave who besides doing all the work also acts as an atm?

The whole point of such a relationship is for the Dominant and the sub/slave to grow together. In My experience, a sub/slave having a job gives them confidence and an independence that gives them a healthy self esteem. I have known and seen those who were kept and in the end, it was not healthy for them not to have a job. In this day and age of rising inflation here in the U.S. it is not always easy for a Dominant to support a sub/slave who runs up the bills when they have bills of Their Own. In My opinion, if I wanted to take care of someone else's bills, I would have kept My children at home. As an adult, the sub/slave should hold their own and provide for their own needs above and beyond the normal bills.

Regarding the services of cleaning the house and such, while working, I do My part within reason, but since when should a Dominant clean up after their subs/slaves? I personally do not care how many hours they work as long as they contribute to the bills they run up and provide for their own needs above and beyond the agreed upon situation.

On the otherhand, I have exposed Individuals claiming that they EXPECT their subs to have a substantial bankroll and have flat out refused to consider anyone who is "poor" in their eyes and THIS is a golddigger who has little or no experience in the lifestyle and is looking for a sugar sub....Such a person (and I've seen a few on this site) are predators to be leary of. THAT is one who is seeking an ATM.

An adult submissive should NOT expect to be supported if they are capable of working for they run up bills and expenses just as anyone else would and since the Dominant did not give birth to them, they are not fully responsible to carry their able bodies, unless They are wealthy and can afford to do so and that is the agreement.

In My world, My sub/slaves have their own bank accounts for they are responsible individuals, not children. They have an independence which helps their confidence, esteem and spirit. I do not control their money unless I am footing all of their bills which would tax those that are already established in the household. But I will not support a slacker who is selfish and inconsiderate.

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RE: cost of 24-7? - 10/9/2007 5:54:34 PM

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Them that work eat; them that don't starve to death.

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RE: cost of 24-7? - 10/9/2007 7:39:56 PM

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wow ... I am a 24 7 "whatever lable you want to put on me". I have been for a long long time. it's also called "wife". If Argent did not have me he would eat out 2 meals a day at least 5 or 6 days a week. He would pay to have his laundry done. He would do the yard work, but he'd most likely have a housekeeper. Oh , and of course there's the sex, but we won't even go there. He likes me home, He likes good home cooked meals ready when he gets home and healthy lunches he can take outside and eat in the nice weather. He likes his clothes washed and ironed and laid out for him each morning. If it works for us, why not? I work and I eat. He likes it that he provides for me, and so do I. Maybe we are throwbacks to the 1950's. Works for me, works for Him. He isn't my sugardaddy - I am not dripping in diamonds and furs, we do not fancy clothes or go on fancy vacations; and I am not a gold digger - no diamonds, etc. We have a fulfilling relationship that makes us both happy. I have owned my own business and worked full time in management. We are both happier with a little less income, less luxuries and frills, and more time together. Nothing wrong with that in our book!

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RE: cost of 24-7? - 10/9/2007 7:51:26 PM

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But your Guy obviously has enough money to do that ... that's pretty rare these days, honestly. It doesn't make you a gold digger, although some might call him a sugar daddy. The fact is, no matter how you look at it, that most people just cannot afford to not have at least two incomes (or, for us, 4 - even if one or two are only part-time).

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RE: cost of 24-7? - 10/9/2007 8:01:58 PM

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This is an interesting topic and one that has many, many answers. If I answer the way I really feel, it would only anger the community.
I will say this, my slave and I tried to go with financial slavery with him living here. It simply did not work out.
I belive he is much happier working and owning his own home. I own my own home.
We have to be realistic and realize that we will not be young forever and have to plan for our future.
For our relationship, we try to share responsibilities. I actually take him to dinner sometimes because it is a reward for him.
Unless you are rich, you won't be able to provide adequate health care and shelter. Then I also have a belief that it enables the Dominant who has control of finances an incredible amount of power.
Which comes to another point in our lifestyle, can we abuse our power over a slave? I think the answer is yes on that, but you may have a different point of view.
That is my two cents on financial slavery.

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