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Personal: Advice, Opinions or Whatever ... - 9/6/2007 1:18:02 PM   
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I can't remember ever asking for advice or opinions about personal matters on this board, so perhaps I will be spared the 'drama queen' tag.
 
I've been seeing this new guy for a little over a month, ... and he loves, loves, loves, him 'some strip club. He has a VIP pass to several very swank clubs in the Houston area, and whenever we go out, we usually end up there ... not that we don't go other places, as a matter of fact this guy breaks my old record for dates that take me to cool places ... but we always seem to end up at a strip club, in the VIP area, with me getting shitfaced, and both of us getting a bunch of table dances from various dancers.
 
I don't even know what to think of this. It might be weird, and it might be not. I'll admit that the first time we went, I felt a little strange ... everyone knows him, and it's clear he's a regular. This isn't the first guy I've dated that's a 'Titty-Bar Commando", but he's the first one that seemed bent of taking me along, and doing whatever he can to get me felt up by every girl in the place. All this, keeping in mind that he's a super classy, educated man that treats me like any girl would die to be treated.
 
I'm lost. Does anyone think this is mucho-bizarro? Is there some message that I'm missing? Is this just good clean fun, and I shouldn't be bothered in the least?
 
Sorry for the personal post ... I'm not quite sure I have anyone in my life I would enjoy talking this over with ... if you get my drift.

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RE: Personal: Advice, Opinions or Whatever ... - 9/6/2007 1:23:30 PM   
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I don't see the attraction of repeatedly spending a lot of money and time in a strip club, so I can't comment on why someone would take a date there. 
In general, if his thing isn't your thing, your best bets are to communicate it to him until you work it out.  If it bothers you, I would not remain silent hoping for things to change.

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RE: Personal: Advice, Opinions or Whatever ... - 9/6/2007 1:23:47 PM   
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I think good clean fun, he wants to see you with a girl and loves that you accept his leisure.

Not at all bizzaro-world in my judgement (now you may cast knowing glances about my judgement, but this is all about you, this time.)

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RE: Personal: Advice, Opinions or Whatever ... - 9/6/2007 1:27:36 PM   
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i know a married couple that goes to strip clubs together and they both love it.....i also know couples that would never do that.....

all i can offer is.....if it makes you uncomfortable......well.....how uncomfortable are you willing to be to have the rest he offers?



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RE: Personal: Advice, Opinions or Whatever ... - 9/6/2007 1:27:40 PM   
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Some guys just really really like strip clubs and the thought of girl on girl action.  You are indulging him in two of his fantasies without being uptight about it.  Enjoy it if it doesn't bother you and be grateful that he's taking you to upscale clubs and not some nasty go go bar where strippers go to die.  I've actually seen six month pregnant dancers dancing in the ones here by me.

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RE: Personal: Advice, Opinions or Whatever ... - 9/6/2007 1:29:57 PM   
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that's where you said you wanted to go, tho......baby!

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RE: Personal: Advice, Opinions or Whatever ... - 9/6/2007 1:31:10 PM   
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lol. 

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RE: Personal: Advice, Opinions or Whatever ... - 9/6/2007 1:32:34 PM   
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and you said it was cathartic for you to work and that 6 months wasn't really all that far along.


I am feeling a little miffed here, all this bizzaro shit comin' out now, that was years ago.

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RE: Personal: Advice, Opinions or Whatever ... - 9/6/2007 1:35:02 PM   
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I'm with Ron on this one. Sounds like fun and considering some of the shit that I do, not at all bizzaro.  If you're comfortable with it, go with the flow. I don't think you should uncomfortable with it just because you think should be. You said you felt a little strange at first.. but if you're not feeling that way anymore, you're having a good time, you're into the guy, I don't see a problem.

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RE: Personal: Advice, Opinions or Whatever ... - 9/6/2007 1:35:52 PM   
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Luckily for me...when I shook my hiney no one noticed the belly.

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RE: Personal: Advice, Opinions or Whatever ... - 9/6/2007 1:43:34 PM   
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Dear caitlyn: Maybe he wants to see you with another girl, but fears you are not the type of gal who would consent to this? - and this is his way of having that, without forcing either of you to have a discussion about a "three-some"? 

Maybe he figures almost naked females are so beautiful, how could they be offensive to anyone?

Maybe he thinks it gets you hot, and he wants to jump your bones later in the evening?

Maybe he is just selfishly pursuing his own interests on a date, without any concern for what you want or think, as far as visiting Strip clubs go?

Maybe he figures he's treated you so well the rest of the evening, it shouldn't bother you he wants this? (if so, I think that is possibly presumptious on his part, but that is only my opinion). 

Could be any of these reasons, IMO. 

If it bothers you, or if you're simply just curious why he is doing it, I'd just ask him (in a non-threatening tone of voice) why he takes you to his Strip clubs. Tell him you're not mad, you just are curious why he does it. See what he says. And-Or -

**If you don't want to go to the Strip club at the end of every single date (or if you've just had your fill of it), suggest to him that you both expand your end-of-date-repertoire by doing something else - preferably something that would be equally intriguing to him, just completely different (you be the judge here).

**Or if you are bored or sick of it at this point - just maybe say you've enjoyed the Strip club, but now that it's "been done" you'd prefer to move on to something else at the end of the evening - and I'd have an alternative suggestion in mind, or he might make one you might not particularly appreciate. Not that you couldn't agree to whatever it is, but you get my drift here.

And then I'd just see how it goes.

If he refuses to talk about it, or gets ticked you asked - then write back, and we'll deal with that then (*or suggest to him that you both visit Chippendales, where the men strip for the ladies, instead)

But IMO, it's possible, men being the dim bunnies they can sometimes be (sorry guys) that he has no idea this could possibly be a weird situation for any of his dates. It's possible someone needs to hit him over the head with a (soft) hammer (figuratively speaking) to get him to realize this is even a possibility.

Because if it was me, it's not the Strip club, per se, that woud bother me - it's the idea that there are all these other possibly gorgeous females around, I'd be comparing my own stuff with - and me thinking he's doing the same thing - know what I mean? (and I am not bragging, but I am pretty happpy with the way my body looks, and it would still bother me a little if it was a constant thing he wanted to do with me (but - if he wasn't with me when he went there, it would not bother me much if he went there without me) - and I don't consider myself a prude, or particularly insecure.

But I don't know him, so I can only guess at his motives.

I don't think there is anything wrong with his wanting to go there - but - after every single date? I think it might be time to try something else, instead, just in the name of variety. But maybe it's just me...

Good luck caitlyn. Please let us know how it works out.

- Susan 

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RE: Personal: Advice, Opinions or Whatever ... - 9/6/2007 1:45:51 PM   
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caitlyn,
Obviously you don't feel threatened. If you are having fun - enjoy!

The 'strip club' trip is one of beth's fantasies I haven't indulged her with yet. I never got into the concept. I see it as going to a candy store just to look, browse, but not take. Besides - it was all 'vanilla' candy.

However, I've been taken to some in Texas that were lots of fun. In NYC places like 'Scores' were a common place for doing business; perhaps there were a few too many 'Ba da Bing' wannabes.

Why post here instead of in the 'General' section? This can get lost.

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RE: Personal: Advice, Opinions or Whatever ... - 9/6/2007 2:06:00 PM   
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Hi caitlyn,
 
When i was just 22, in the late 70's, my Dominant husband, who was 14 years older than me, would take me to strip clubs, adult book stores, adult movies, and "live sex" shows.  He loved going to these places and he always took me with him.  At first, i felt very self-conscious, being, what appeared to be, the only female in the place who wasn't getting any tips.  i never told him that i was uncomfortable in those places because i wanted to be with him and i wanted him to be happy and, since that was something that made him happy, i was willing to go along, even though i didn't enjoy it.  i did enjoy seeing him enjoy it.  He also loved to go fishing and always took me with him, even though, in the beginning, i wasn't a big fan of sitting in a row boat on a private pond in the sweltering heat for hours, without catching anything.  After doing it more, i did start to enjoy fishing and now i love it. 
 
But, after awhile, i started to feel more comfortable.  i realized that he would be going to these places, with or without me, because that was something he enjoyed and he wasn't going to stop.  i decided that i would rather be there with him, rather than being at home while he went there alone.  It also made me feel good that he enjoyed my company enough to take me with him, since he could have chose to leave me at home, if he had wanted to.  The more i went, the more i enjoyed watching the women dance.
 
i can't tell you how you should deal with this.  All i can say is that, to me, it just wasn't a big enough deal for me to mention it to him or to let it interfere with my relationship with him.  i stuck it out and i was glad i did.  There were too many positives, for me being with him, to let this one little negative to drive a wedge between us.
 
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RE: Personal: Advice, Opinions or Whatever ... - 9/6/2007 2:42:42 PM   
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My former Dom and I used to go to the strip clubs often (not as often as you though). He was the first man to take me to one and I had always wanted to go. He was thrilled that I didn't have a problem with it.

All that just to say that I agree with Aileen68. If you are having fun and enjoying his company, have fun and enjoy his company!

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RE: Personal: Advice, Opinions or Whatever ... - 9/6/2007 2:53:53 PM   
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I dunno, whether she enjoys it or not, I think it's a little weird that:

1) He wants to take her there constantly, without asking her what she thinks, and that he is asking the Strippers to climb all over her without asking her what she thinks (I could be mistaken, but caitlyn is in college, and this isn't necessarily a D/s relationship she is having with this guy. If it was, then I'd say just go where he wants and maybe ask fewer questions. But even then, she has a right to discuss it, if it bothers her - it would just be whatever he says goes, after they did discuss it). Plus -

2) Not asking her what she thinks, or if she minds they are going there constantly, shows a slight disregard, IMO, for her feelings. It might not be intentional on his part, but IMO that possibility is definitey there.

Personally, if it was me, I'd bring it up in a nice way, just so he knows what I'm thinking. Good luck, caitlyn.

- Susan

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RE: Personal: Advice, Opinions or Whatever ... - 9/6/2007 2:55:29 PM   
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Maybe it is his comfort zone?

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RE: Personal: Advice, Opinions or Whatever ... - 9/6/2007 3:02:20 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: caitlyn

I can't remember ever asking for advice or opinions about personal matters on this board, so perhaps I will be spared the 'drama queen' tag.
 
I've been seeing this new guy for a little over a month, ... and he loves, loves, loves, him 'some strip club. He has a VIP pass to several very swank clubs in the Houston area, and whenever we go out, we usually end up there ... not that we don't go other places, as a matter of fact this guy breaks my old record for dates that take me to cool places ... but we always seem to end up at a strip club, in the VIP area, with me getting shitfaced, and both of us getting a bunch of table dances from various dancers.
 
I don't even know what to think of this. It might be weird, and it might be not. I'll admit that the first time we went, I felt a little strange ... everyone knows him, and it's clear he's a regular. This isn't the first guy I've dated that's a 'Titty-Bar Commando", but he's the first one that seemed bent of taking me along, and doing whatever he can to get me felt up by every girl in the place. All this, keeping in mind that he's a super classy, educated man that treats me like any girl would die to be treated.
 
I'm lost. Does anyone think this is mucho-bizarro? Is there some message that I'm missing? Is this just good clean fun, and I shouldn't be bothered in the least?
 
Sorry for the personal post ... I'm not quite sure I have anyone in my life I would enjoy talking this over with ... if you get my drift.



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RE: Personal: Advice, Opinions or Whatever ... - 9/6/2007 3:05:36 PM   
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Northern Gent: You mean he just wants to show off to her? As in: Hey - I can afford to take you to this fancy Strip club?

If he is spending lots of money on other stuff for her (as maybe he is doing, I dunno), maybe that's true. But he is also asking the Strippers to climb all over her, too, so he can watch, while they are there, if I am not mistaken.

I don't necessarily think there is anything wrong with that, but I do think it should at least be consensual, not presumed (by him) to be consensual.

But I am not yellin' at you Northern Gent, because you were just answering her question (sorry).

- Susan

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RE: Personal: Advice, Opinions or Whatever ... - 9/6/2007 3:12:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SusanofO

Northern Gent: You mean he just wants to show off to her? As in: Hey - I can afford to take you to this fancy Strip club?

If he is spending lots of money on other stuff for her (as maybe he is doing, I dunno), maybe that's true. But he is also asking the Strippers to climb all over her, too, so he can watch, while they are there, if I am not mistaken.

I don't necessarily think there is anything wrong with that, but  do think it should at least be consensual, not presumed to be consensual.

- Susan


Not quite. More "look at me, I'm important, I'm in the VIP area, and I can pay for women to dance for me" and so on.

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RE: Personal: Advice, Opinions or Whatever ... - 9/6/2007 3:14:01 PM   
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NorthernGent: Oh yeah. Quite possibly that's true, I agree.

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