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Costco sign - 9/6/2007 6:09:05 PM

SugarMyChurro

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So I was at a CostCo with a friend and we were approaching the exit. Sure enough, there was a sign asking for cooperation in searching through our belongings. What I found interesting was the fact that they wanted full compliance for requests to search through one's handbags, backpacks, briefcases and the like.

So what I see is an escalation taking place.

They got everyone used to the bag of goods versus grocery receipt thing. And now they want to be able to check out your personal items too. Personally, I just think that's wrong (for a whole fuckload of reasons mentioned elsewhere).

What's next, cavity searches on whim?

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RE: Costco sign - 9/6/2007 7:44:08 PM

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Let me ask this question - has anyone here ever been subject to a "bag inspection" while leaving a small family owned and operated store or business? I know I haven't. Not once, and I'm old.

If you don't like the search procedure then avoid the big box stores that are so fond of it.

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RE: Costco sign - 9/6/2007 7:55:38 PM

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I happen to be going to Costco tomorrow and will be checking my local outlet to see if that's a new policy. If so, I won't be renewing my membership when it rolls around. Thanks for the heads-up.

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RE: Costco sign - 9/6/2007 7:58:23 PM

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When you signed your membership agreement, you agreed to this behavior.

Any place open to the public like fry's electronics is a different story and there are
plenty of "fry's sucks" websites out there for you to google as a result.

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RE: Costco sign - 9/6/2007 8:09:06 PM

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I don't recall agreeing to searches of personal property but I honestly don't remember as it's been several years since I signed up. I do recall agreeing to allow a search of my purchases and as I said, if personal property is part of the agreement, they're going to lose my business and membership fees.

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RE: Costco sign - 9/6/2007 8:59:34 PM

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I was at Costco this afternoon.
No search just the receipt thing.
There's a nice looking lady at the door doing the checkouts.
The next time I go I think I'll insist on a "patdown."
"I could be STEALING something you know!"
"You better search me thouroughly."

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RE: Costco sign - 9/6/2007 9:06:13 PM

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I was at Costco a few days ago and didn't see anything like that. I appreciate the gorcery search when leaving, one time i bought stamps and they didnt get in my cart and the lady at the door caught that.

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RE: Costco sign - 9/6/2007 10:08:55 PM

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For all you so called "freedom" lovers, shouldn't a private enterprise have the right to run their business any way they see fit? If you don't like the way they do business, don't shop there. Seems simple to me.

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RE: Costco sign - 9/6/2007 10:11:40 PM

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If you don't like the way they do business, don't shop there. Seems simple to me.

The exact reason I don't shop at Costco or Walmart.

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RE: Costco sign - 9/6/2007 10:20:05 PM

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There you go. So simple.

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RE: Costco sign - 9/7/2007 12:09:50 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Estring

For all you so called "freedom" lovers, shouldn't a private enterprise have the right to run their business any way they see fit? If you don't like the way they do business, don't shop there. Seems simple to me.

PRIVATE? Sure.

But an Artificial Legal Entity, like Costco?

Nope.

You see, the difference is that when Costco BEGGED The State for permission to Incorporate, they AGREED to go by the State's REGULATION, rather than just the Law, as us REAL PEOPLE must concern ourselves with obedience.

It's *EXACTLY* the same as your car.

You OWN your car, so in THEORY, you have an absolute right to do with your PROPERTY as you choose.

HOWEVER, you have AGREED to go by a stricter standard, that of the VEHICLE AND TRAFFIC REGULATIONS.

You agreed when you signed the registration and license forms.

Costco AGREED to be The People's Bitch, when they filed the Articles of Incorporation with the Secretary of State's office.

Costco IS NOT, and NEVER WILL BE equivalent to a "Mom and Pop Store" ( ignoring for a moment the issue of the M&P store's OWN status as an Artificial Legal Entity -- which they *don't* *necessarily* are, but in practice, likely are... )

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RE: Costco sign - 9/7/2007 2:56:20 AM

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Farglebargle:

Estring is just regurgitating ditto-head speak. Confusing natural with fictitious persons is a mistake only someone completely ignorant of the meaning of different legal statuses could make. And, of course, the corporations love these fundamental misunderstandings because it allows them to get away with so much more than they ever did before.

I'll just go out on a limb and suggest that anyone that thinks corporations should have the same rights as natural persons also believes that we are in dire need of tort reform.

You know, because the common law is so stupid after all...

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RE: Costco sign - 9/7/2007 5:36:31 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

I was at Costco this afternoon.
No search just the receipt thing.
There's a nice looking lady at the door doing the checkouts.
The next time I go I think I'll insist on a "patdown."
"I could be STEALING something you know!"
"You better search me thouroughly."

Hm, let me know how that works out... if we can up the ante to a cavity search, it might be worth the trip

(Oh, honey, i think you're gonna need some longer gloves...)

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RE: Costco sign - 9/7/2007 5:43:03 AM

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wow..some tough Costco's out there. Ours is pretty laid back lol. The employees rarely do nothing but stand at the door with their mighty magic marker and don't even look in your chart. Only time you do see them make a move if a alarm sounds

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RE: Costco sign - 9/7/2007 5:59:40 AM

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One of the reasons that I shop at Costco is because they treat their employees very well.
Before I joined I was reading an article about how they pay a lot of their employees, "$18 per hour plus full benefits".
I figure that if I'm going to be spending my money at a business I want that business to take care of their employees.
I was talking to the guy who rounds up the shopping carts in the parking lot at our local Costco and he told me that the full time employees who work on sundays make $27 per hour.
And, everytime I've ever asked for assistance from anyone there they've been very helpful!
You can buy things in bulk and save money by shopping there.
I always use their gas station too, the gas is about .13-.15 cents per gallon cheaper there than at the local gas stations.

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RE: Costco sign - 9/7/2007 6:01:04 AM

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They put signs up like that so that when they observe someone on the eye-in-the-sky surveillance camera packing their oversized handbag full of steaks, make-up, and pantyhose, they CAN stop them and search them without hearing all that "you've violating my rights" crap.....and that IS crap when it's used to justify doing something illegal.

Personally, I have nothing to hide in my personal belongings. I think it sucks that because of shoplifting and stealing, it has to come to that. Maybe we should direct our anger at the lowlife's who are the cause for rules and policies like this? They are the ones who cause the prices to go up to offset the cost of the losses.

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RE: Costco sign - 9/7/2007 6:08:03 AM

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I have to say...they are tough on shoplifters...seen some chick get busted...It was like they called a swat team on her...Sad though, shoplifting happens alot

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RE: Costco sign - 9/7/2007 6:11:28 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: farglebargle

You OWN your car, so in THEORY, you have an absolute right to do with your PROPERTY as you choose.

HOWEVER, you have AGREED to go by a stricter standard, that of the VEHICLE AND TRAFFIC REGULATIONS.

You agreed when you signed the registration and license forms.

You can get out of that actually....there is some number thingy you have to put after your signature and write "under duress" in the signature box too....then you can get your license without having to give up your rights. there is also a paper you have to fill out when you do it when you get your license. Id have to go ask the guys about the exact info on it if anyone is really interested though, but a good number of folks around this area are doing it now....

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RE: Costco sign - 9/7/2007 6:53:28 AM

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Ghita, how would that "help" you by doing that?

Windchymes, "steaks, make-up and panyhose", and you know that how?
When people steal steaks they call that "Cattle Rustling."

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RE: Costco sign - 9/7/2007 7:03:42 AM

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quote:

One of the reasons that I shop at Costco is because they treat their employees very well.
Before I joined I was reading an article about how they pay a lot of their employees, "$18 per hour plus full benefits".
I figure that if I'm going to be spending my money at a business I want that business to take care of their employees.
I was talking to the guy who rounds up the shopping carts in the parking lot at our local Costco and he told me that the full time employees who work on sundays make $27 per hour.
And, everytime I've ever asked for assistance from anyone there they've been very helpful!
You can buy things in bulk and save money by shopping there.
I always use their gas station too, the gas is about .13-.15 cents per gallon cheaper there than at the local gas stations.

I didn't know that much about Costco, because we don't have them here. Wal-Mart pretty much owns this state. We lost our K-Mart a few years ago. We have Alco and Target as the only comparable stores. I just found an article about Costco where they talk about the high pay of their employees.
http://reclaimdemocracy.org/walmart/costco_vs_sams.php

I am genuinely amazed by it. I know a lot of people that work for Wal-Mart and Sam's Club in comparable jobs, and they won't ever make that much. Wal-Mart is notorious for having a high turn over rate, and their shitty pay is the biggest reason. I wish we had a Costco now that I have read into it. The closest one is in Memphis.

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