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RE: 50's household: what do you like/don't like about it? - 9/8/2007 7:18:15 PM

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Jello Salad still lives in the South.
Being a former"foodie" pro though. I have had some fun deconstructing a few of the more classic Jello Salads and turning them into a dish that the critics rave over...kind of felt like a really good practical joke.

There are really good reasons for why the food went so wrong. I may revisit yall and share the food culture history that I know but I have a feeling that as this is Eion's op thread that he may weight in on it instead.

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RE: 50's household: what do you like/don't like about it? - 9/8/2007 7:29:14 PM

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Myself I am glad we left the past behind us, women were severely limited in being able to go to college or what u could take as far as classes/careers. Jobs for women were listed seperately from those for men in the classifieds, if a women happened to be working at the exact same job as a man she was paid significantly less. If u found yourself in a bad abusive or non loving marriage, you financially could not afford to leave and heaven help you if you had children together because it made the options of being able to leave even harder , often women had no choice but to leave their children behind, because even if they had jobs the pay was insufficient to also raise children there was no welfare safety net back then, no battered wife laws then , also birth control was not available then, heaven forbid a women become pregnant before marriage. There was none of the modern appliances like today so your day was filled with housework and easy care synthetic fabrics did not exist everything had to be pressed and was usually well wrinkled of course dryeres were not invented so all laundry had to be hung outside winter and summer, floors had to be manually scoured to strip the wax and later wax reapplied and then buffed often all by hand , there was no such thing as convenience foods, you baked your own bread instead of bought, of course no computers, very few owned a tv back in the 1950's if you happened to you might get 2 or 3 channels to watch, the male often was working 10 to 12 hours a day if not more, usually the family only had one vehicle so the women had to get groceries herself often and lug them home along with the children and grocery shopping was often done every 2 ot 3 days. It was not where near as dreamy or idealistic as tv makes it out to be

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RE: 50's household: what do you like/don't like about it? - 9/8/2007 7:38:31 PM

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One thing I do remember is that married men from that era sometimes would sometimes buy women house-hold appliances as gifts for holidays and birthdays - and they thought (some of them, apparently) that this was a "thoughtful" thing to do (it was, IMO, an acknowledgment that a 1950's (or early 60's) female with a family spent a large portion of her time on housework).

My grandfather worked as a salesman for Graybar Electric Company - and he was always giving my grandmother the newest appliance for a gift. An electric knife. A new vacuum cleaner. A new toaster. A new washing machine, etc. She appeared to be happy about it, too.

My mother, however, was pretty savvy to the implications related to this kind of gift-giving. My dad gave her a new vacuum cleaner once for Christmas. It was the last time he ever gave her that kind of gift, hehe. She did not want new appliances for gifts- she wanted things like real perfume, new clothes, and to be taken out to dinner in a nice restaurant. Fortunately for my dad, he was a fast learner.

My mom knew nothing about BDSM, I don't think - but I am pretty convinced that if she had - she would definitely have been a Domme.

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RE: 50's household: what do you like/don't like about it? - 9/8/2007 7:56:07 PM

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Meh. If I were the one washing dishes by hand all the time, and my husband bought me a dishwasher (which are still fairly expensive...at least more so than perfume or dinner) I would be sooooooo freaking happy.

I can see how those would have been awesome gifts when they were first becoming available. Now they're so commonplace most people don't even think how much more convenient it is to have a dishwasher, or a clothes dryer instead of having to hang everything out to dry.

I lived in a place where the dryer broke for two weeks. Hanging all your clothes on a line is no fucking joke!

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RE: 50's household: what do you like/don't like about it? - 9/8/2007 8:04:25 PM

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I prefer the sixties version.

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RE: 50's household: what do you like/don't like about it? - 9/8/2007 8:44:38 PM

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xoxi: Yes, but my mother wasn't the one washing the dishes all of the time (she probably was "Domme material").

Either I and my sisters were doing it a lot of the time, or my dad was helping her, or doing it all himself, instead. Even if that wasn't "the way things were done" back then. My mother didn't seem to ever care too much about the way "everyone else" did things.

But I agree with you -I know even in the early the 1990's, when I got married, my husband and I lived in a large apartment for several years, before we bought our first house, that had no dishwasher or washer and dryer.

I insisted that wherever we moved when we did get a house, that we get a dishwasher, and a washing machine and dryer. I was by then, completely sick of doing dishes by hand, and lugging clothes to the Laundromat. I was so happy when we did get those things - it made life much easier, IMO.

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RE: 50's household: what do you like/don't like about it? - 9/8/2007 9:01:24 PM

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When I handle my own laundry, I never dry it in the dryer, it's not a hassle to me to hang clothing, but then of course I'm not hanging tons of clothing. All my clothing lasts 2 to three years longer than if I dry it in thee dryer. Which could be a good thing or not if you're big on keeping up with what's in style, which I don't.

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I lived in a place where the dryer broke for two weeks. Hanging all your clothes on a line is no fucking joke!

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RE: 50's household: what do you like/don't like about it? - 9/8/2007 9:04:30 PM

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I'm totally impressed. Then again I'm a compulsive shopper LOL...each time I did laundry there were at least 3 lines full of clothes. And it took me at least 15-20 minutes to hang them all up (and this was in like July or August...I just remember it was REALLY hot out) and then sometimes the heavy stuff would fall down so I needed to put like 6 clothespins on it.

Argh. I'm totally technospoiled.

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RE: 50's household: what do you like/don't like about it? - 9/8/2007 11:40:35 PM

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And of course: do you play this? what do you like/not like about it?

We don't "play this", we pretty much live it as our lifestyle.

Hubby and i both grew up in the '50's in pretty typical 50's households with the mother staying home, doing all the housework, cooking, child care and most of the yard work. During most of our 39 years of marriage we have lived that way with the exception of me going to college and grad school then working while He finished grad school.

What i like most about it was being able to be home with the kids and attend all of their activities. I also enjoy taking care of my man in every way. What i don't like is that Hubby has never learned to do anything for/by himself--cooking, housework, laundry etc. I will be having surgery later this fall and He will have to do some of these things for a month or so. He doesn't even know how to turn on the dishwasher or washing machine.

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RE: 50's household: what do you like/don't like about it? - 9/9/2007 12:21:37 AM

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Here's a thread we had a few years ago that started with an outline of what was expected of a good wife in 1955.

1955 a good wife

Have dinner ready. Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious meal ready on time for his return. This is a way of letting him know that you have be thinking about him and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when they get home and the prospect of a good meal is part of the warm welcome needed.

Prepare yourself. Take 15 minutes to rest so you'll be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your make-up, put a ribbon in your hair and be fresh-looking. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people.

Be a little gay and a little more interesting for him. His boring day may need a lift and one of your duties is to provide it.

Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives. Run a dustcloth over the tables.

During the cooler months of the year you should prepare and light a fire for him to unwind by. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order, and it will give you a lift too. After all, catering to his comfort will provide you with immense personal satisfaction.

Minimize all noise. At the time of his arrival, eliminate all noise of the washer, dryer or vacuum. Encourage the children to be quiet.

Be happy to see him.

Greet him with a warm smile and show sincerity in your desire to please him.

Listen to him. You may have a dozen important things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first - remember, his topics of conversation are more important than yours.

Don't greet him with complaints and problems.

Don't complain if he's late for dinner or even if he stays out all night. Count this as minor compared to what he might have gone through at work.

Make him comfortable. Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or lie him down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him.

Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soothing and pleasant voice.

Don't ask him questions about his actions or question his judgment or integrity. Remember, he is the master of the house and as such will always exercise his will with fairness and truthfulness. You have no right to question him.

A good wife always knows her place.

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RE: 50's household: what do you like/don't like about it? - 9/9/2007 12:31:06 AM

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ORIGINAL: RRafe: I prefer the sixties version.

Oh, as do I... the closest I can visualize is '57-'67 as shown in mass media. Ironically, I'm liking everything *but* what my parents were attracted to on the later edges of that timeframe. I guess it's still part of my "youthful rebellion" against their hippie ways.

As to being technospoiled, that's actually part of why the jello-atrocities were such a big thing: gelatin went from being a true luxury (having enough meat to have enough bones to cook down to make gelatin in the Victorian era) to being easily made in the '20s to being synthesized in the '50s. Combine with the demise of the icebox and the rise of the refrigerator and you have it now easy to produce what grandmother slaved over (or had her staff slave over) as "elegant food".

Out of context and with Mr. Lileks' captions, yeah - pretty foul.

I think that's also part of my attraction to it: it was the heyday of engineer as hero and Harley Earl. The aesthetics were very interesting and it seemed that there was nothing we couldn't do. We were going to put a man on the moon by the end of the decade... such hubris!

As to the manly-man part of the fantasy that xoxi mentions, that has an appeal for me as well. However, since I am what I am in real life and if I'm doing my chosen career I'm almost never at home... kinda doesn't do much for the practicalities of living that lifestyle. Besides, I'm too much of a punk...

Maybe if I sold my soul and went back to work for Big Pharma, McCarty St. Branch... but they don't pay enough.

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RE: 50's household: what do you like/don't like about it? - 9/9/2007 12:36:08 AM

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ORIGINAL: ocilla: There are really good reasons for why the food went so wrong. I may revisit y'all and share the food culture history that I know but I have a feeling that as this is Eoin's op thread that he may weight in on it instead.

Actually, I'm going to resist beyond the comment I made about the technology aspects of it. Feel free, luv.

I think everyone who's reached a certain point in deconstructing "American Comfort Food" has played with the BHG Salad Book (y'know - the thin yellow one)... My favorite: bloody mary aspic. Actually quite tasty on toast... and helpful in that hair of the dog sort of way.

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RE: 50's household: what do you like/don't like about it? - 9/9/2007 1:23:42 AM

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Nodding. I don't do the manly man thing. Too stereotyped.

The sixties at least had some freedom to it-and you could till support a household on one income. There was a small rebellion against materialism-it fizzled out. I've always felt that if we could get with the decent ideas the hippies had-and scrap the silly ones (like drugs) things might be a bit better.

All we seem to have now is polarization-I wish we could wake up and be moderate.

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ORIGINAL: RRafe: I prefer the sixties version.
Oh, as do I... the closest I can visualize is '57-'67 as shown in mass media. Ironically, I'm liking everything *but* what my parents were attracted to on the later edges of that timeframe. I guess it's still part of my "youthful rebellion" against their hippie ways.

As to being technospoiled, that's actually part of why the jello-atrocities were such a big thing: gelatin went from being a true luxury (having enough meat to have enough bones to cook down to make gelatin in the Victorian era) to being easily made in the '20s to being synthesized in the '50s. Combine with the demise of the icebox and the rise of the refrigerator and you have it now easy to produce what grandmother slaved over (or had her staff slave over) as "elegant food".

Out of context and with Mr. Lileks' captions, yeah - pretty foul.

I think that's also part of my attraction to it: it was the heyday of engineer as hero and Harley Earl. The aesthetics were very interesting and it seemed that there was nothing we couldn't do. We were going to put a man on the moon by the end of the decade... such hubris!

As to the manly-man part of the fantasy that xoxi mentions, that has an appeal for me as well. However, since I am what I am in real life and if I'm doing my chosen career I'm almost never at home... kinda doesn't do much for the practicalities of living that lifestyle. Besides, I'm too much of a punk...

Maybe if I sold my soul and went back to work for Big Pharma, McCarty St. Branch... but they don't pay enough.

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RE: 50's household: what do you like/don't like about it? - 9/9/2007 1:25:53 AM

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As some one who really enjoys ageplay, I prefer the 1950s mommy type who is left in charge of the home and the family. I also have a fetish for fifites clothes, both square and rockabilly. One of my favorite elements of 1950s is the badgirl (top) and good girl (bottom) dynamic.. Think rizzo and sandy having kinky sex. Another favorite element of 1950s livestyle is the use of pervertables. Wooden Spoons, Meat Tenderizors, Hair Brushes, Fly Swatters, Clothes pins, Candle wax, Etcetera.

One of my least favorite 1950's concepts is the male dom version. Bread winner=Dominant. Working all day is only seen as dominant because it is more valued by society. In my version of 1950's house hold, some one has to spend all day "working" to pay for the spoiled house wives martinis and manicures while the mommy runs the house hold, takes charge of the "little" ones, and holds the kinky "passion parties"... for her lovely female "friends".... Modern 1950's house holds are not necessarily limited to male dominants and female submissives.

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RE: 50's household: what do you like/don't like about it? - 9/9/2007 1:44:32 AM

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Actually, the version I think works best for me is Bread Winner=Submissive... basically staying with the idea of "now someone else is in charge." Sort of topping from the bottom a bit, but...

Then again, since by my career in the 50s & 60s I'm a domestic, I identify with that a bit more. Kinda like "Mr. Belvedere with Benefits" within the relationship I'm exploring currently ... Not as good a pianist as Borge, but I can still practice a bit...

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RE: 50's household: what do you like/don't like about it? - 9/9/2007 8:54:56 AM

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I prefer the "Victorian model" ....It's also nice to think that when I tire of my sub...She could easily fall prey to the consumption. The subs today no longer have the decency to die when they are no longer of use.

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RE: 50's household: what do you like/don't like about it? - 9/9/2007 9:16:18 AM

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ORIGINAL: LittleWolvenOne

As some one who really enjoys ageplay, I prefer the 1950s mommy type who is left in charge of the home and the family. I also have a fetish for fifites clothes, both square and rockabilly. One of my favorite elements of 1950s is the badgirl (top) and good girl (bottom) dynamic.. Think rizzo and sandy having kinky sex. Another favorite element of 1950s livestyle is the use of pervertables. Wooden Spoons, Meat Tenderizors, Hair Brushes, Fly Swatters, Clothes pins, Candle wax, Etcetera.

One of my least favorite 1950's concepts is the male dom version. Bread winner=Dominant. Working all day is only seen as dominant because it is more valued by society. In my version of 1950's house hold, some one has to spend all day "working" to pay for the spoiled house wives martinis and manicures while the mommy runs the house hold, takes charge of the "little" ones, and holds the kinky "passion parties"... for her lovely female "friends".... Modern 1950's house holds are not necessarily limited to male dominants and female submissives.

Oh you are totally giving me horribly dirty ideas :P

Although I don't have to be a Domme to be a total princess about things like my nails and what I wear. The best part about living in 07 rather than 57 is there are machines to do the dirty work.

Also I will never be able to watch the sleepover scene in Grease the same way again. Muahahahaha thank you!

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RE: 50's household: what do you like/don't like about it? - 9/9/2007 9:35:44 AM

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And on the same topic, would you believe Corned Beef Jell-O.

it looks like Spam, but beef!

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RE: 50's household: what do you like/don't like about it? - 9/9/2007 9:44:56 AM

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Please, let us not reopen this can of worms...

Summary: SPAM is good food that fulfills a needed place, but it isn't to everyone's tastes.

domiguy: I forgot completely about consumption... I was too busy weeping for my dead love (who died of arsenic poisoning) at her tomb in the rain.

Actually, part of what I dislike most about the VickieGoths is their mistaken belief that they (as working class people) would have been of the leisure class and thus entitled to their adopted pleasures. Thus, why I'm not as much of a gothboy as I used to be.

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RE: 50's household: what do you like/don't like about it? - 9/9/2007 10:02:57 AM

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RE: 50's household: what do you like/don't like

I would really miss having a remote control for the TV lol.

I would like the notion of behaving well in public and a lil dirty at home. Kinda like Leave it to Beaver except being tied up with my pearls.

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