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MsCyn -> RE: it all involves money (7/28/2005 6:31:00 PM)
I am new to the message boards and I went through the posts....I think that the young fellow is a bit confused.[sm=rolleyes.gif] I am a lifestyle Domme...I don't expect money but as the one Mistress put it...I like personal items....I make walking sticks so you could go for a walk and bring me good sturdy sticks to decorate with my feathers and beads..... or pick a wildflower or something. Pick up a rock and tell me how it made you think of me....a tribute should reflect from your heart. Now if you have a decent job then it should be as simple as finding out the music I like or books I read, or movies I watch. One sub brought me a homeburned cd with music that was from my formative teen years. It does not have to be about money.....It is a tribute.

subimale49 -> RE: it all involves money (7/29/2005 2:12:48 PM)
I agree 100% with You. The Mistress I am currently seeing is not a Pro Domme, but a lifestyle Domme. Whenever I visit Her, I always bring something. One time, it was a 4 layer chocolate cake, another time, it was a piece of equipment. My Mistress lives over 400 miles from me, so even when I don't visit Her, I always try to let Her know I am thinking of Her. I know Mistress is an avid Star Trek fan, as am I. When I went to Las Vegas, I bought a few Star Trek trinkets from the Las Vegas Hilton for Mistress and mailed it to Her. Another time, I made a dvd of some of Mistress's favorite tv shows and mailed that as well. I like to send things to Mistress occasionally to let Her know that even though I am not sceneing with Her, She is ALWAYS in my thoughts. What could be better triibute than that?

DameDeviante -> RE: it all involves money (8/1/2005 11:35:59 PM)
I agree Mm. Michelle. I believe any male who complains about a Woman requiring a tribute of some kind for Her time is either very young, and knows nothing of Women, or he's a cheap pig who really deserves no more of My time in this discussion board. LOL! I love the BDSM lifestyle, and have for many years. Accepting gifts, and tributes for My exquisite adult entertainment is not wrong. I enjoy aiding in the release of repression of your human self. It is a science, a therapy, and a scene you'll not forget for a very long time, if ever. If a psychologist, doctor or nurse can make big bucks helping people, I know I have the credentials and experience it takes to give what you deserve, and to get what I know I deserve.

imtempting -> RE: it all involves money (8/1/2005 11:46:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DameDeviante I agree Mm. Michelle. I believe any male who complains about a Woman requiring a tribute of some kind for Her time is either very young, and knows nothing of Women, or he's a cheap pig who really deserves no more of My time in this discussion board. LOL! I love the BDSM lifestyle, and have for many years. Accepting gifts, and tributes for My exquisite adult entertainment is not wrong. I enjoy aiding in the release of repression of your human self. It is a science, a therapy, and a scene you'll not forget for a very long time, if ever. If a psychologist, doctor or nurse can make big bucks helping people, I know I have the credentials and experience it takes to give what you deserve, and to get what I know I deserve. Well why not give gift to the submissive? Or are these females young and know nothing of men? OR she is a user that deserves no more of my time. Id love to accept gifts and tributes for my exquisite entertainment entertaining people, it is not wrong. I love to help dominants release the need for dominanting.

SweetDommes -> RE: it all involves money (8/1/2005 11:48:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: imtempting Well why not give gift to the submissive? Or are these females young and know nothing of men? OR she is a user that deserves no more of my time. Id love to accept gifts and tributes for my exquisite entertainment entertaining people, it is not wrong. I love help dominants release the need for dominanting. Who says that we aren't giving gifts back to the submissive? They just aren't called "tribute" because it's something that we give willingly ... and because the guys who bitch about tribute don't see a gift of affection from someone else as tribute - only what they are "required" to give is tribute.

imtempting -> RE: it all involves money (8/1/2005 11:52:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SweetDommes Who says that we aren't giving gifts back to the submissive? They just aren't called "tribute" because it's something that we give willingly ... and because the guys who bitch about tribute don't see a gift of affection from someone else as tribute - only what they are "required" to give is tribute. Oh so by your theory I only have to give my affection to a Dominant to make her happy? Or does it need a $ value?

SweetDommes -> RE: it all involves money (8/2/2005 12:09:08 AM)
Have you ever heard the saying "it's the thought that counts"? In general, it's true. It's not the monetary cost that gives a gift value. People have already mentioned that tokens of affection count as "tribute" to them - a flower picked on a walk, a card to show thought and care, a poem or a drawing done specifically for the Dom/me - these things cost little to nothing, and would certainly count for us and others - but then again we, personally, don't require "tribute." We do want our boys to show affection to us, but we dont' call it tribute. Some people would consider the fact that the boy who is coming to visit in two weeks is bringing chocolate to be a tribute ... to us, it means that I mentioned I needed to go get chocolate and he said he would bring me some. I didn't demand it, I didn't even request it - I mentioned that I needed to go shopping and get some ... he offered. If there is a toy that he really wants used on him, he will be expected to buy it - is that tribute? to some yes, to us ... eh, if things don't work out, he takes the toy with him ... so it's not really ours. It all depends on perspective - and yes, some "Dommes" out there are greedy ... but I would have to say that in general, most would be just as happy (if not happier) with a hand-picked bouquet of wild flowers as with a dozen long stemmed roses.

SadisticPrincess -> RE: it all involves money (8/2/2005 9:09:40 AM)
Personal gestures are very valuable to me---evidence that I am more than just an interchangeable fantasy figure. And imtempted, the submissive is certainly important in the scene, but I have plenty of opportunities to get out my dominant urges. Can the subs say the same? I think I'm worth more than a "thank you", yes, but I am not sitting there with my hand out.

MsSimone -> RE: it all involves money (8/3/2005 7:39:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subimale49 quote: ORIGINAL: MadameG I also agree! He states anyone can play the role of dominant. NOT true. We do not play at being dominant, we are dominant. It is a large part of my inner spirit. I said no such thing. There is nothing in my post that says ANYONE can be dominant. There are a lot of young ladies that are pro Dommes who pretend to be Dommes. subimale49, I was not commenting on your post but one of the earlier posters who stated dominant women play at being dominant. Sorry for the confusion. I do agree with your point on the influx of younger pay dommes trying to make a quick buck. However, be aware financial domination is an actual and very specific fetish. This is my chosen profession, one I take great pride in doing to the best of my skills and it is an ongoing battle within this community explaining the justification and need for us. Getting kinda old after ten years.... Mistress Simone

imtempting -> RE: it all involves money (8/3/2005 7:51:04 AM)
If i wanted to submit to someone badly enough I will go out and pick up a gal that wants to use me to do everything for her. It will be vanilla relationship but still I will be serving her and getting sex.

onceburned -> RE: it all involves money (8/3/2005 8:12:40 AM)
What a curious statement, imtempting. So why are you here?

SadisticPrincess -> RE: it all involves money (8/3/2005 9:53:37 AM)
Yes, why ARE you here? I can understand your unwillingness to hire a professional, since you are not going to get sex acts from a pro domme, but it seems that you are trying to get laid and give nothing in return.

AAkasha -> RE: it all involves money (8/3/2005 9:58:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SadisticPrincess Yes, why ARE you here? I can understand your unwillingness to hire a professional, since you are not going to get sex acts from a pro domme, but it seems that you are trying to get laid and give nothing in return. I think you hit the nail on the head. In trying to define what a 'tribute' is and how it relates to money, he comes across as a horny teenager who realizes it's appropriate to court a potential woman with flowers or candies (using stereotypical examples) and is asking his friends if he can just go to grocery store and buy cheap flowers to get laid, or does he need to actually go to a florist. And what the breakdown is, like a price list. The entire point goes over his head. Akasha

Englishfootslave -> RE: it all involves money (8/4/2005 9:37:03 AM)
OK, this is why I can't normally be arsed with these chat things. (I don't know if anyone else will read this now, it being a couple of weeks old, but perhaps the guy who posted it originally will). Ruudie, you have a VERY valid point. To the rest of you: since the guy has started a thread about this subject, why do all feel it necessary to pick his profile to bits? If he'd said, "Where am I going wrong with my profile" or "Why don't I get any replies", then fair enough. I myself get sick of seeing these women clearly just after money, without having the decency to be more up-front about it. I have no problem at all with those people who just say, "I'm a Pro-Domme" -you know they expect paying. For myself, I have no problem, either, paying a professional (I think Leotardboi has a point that a session with a pro might be a good thing for you to try), but one of the things I crave is the knowledge that the Domme is getting off on my subserviance as much as I am getting off on it. I'm not convinced that someone who is doing it for payment is fulfilling that role. I'm not saying that a professional Domme can't get off on my submissiveness, I just think that there's really another agenda in that situation -one of professional and client, not one of two people enjoying the same things from different perspectives. If you can meet someone who is seeking the same things as you, then you have cracked it. It surprises me how many very young people are exploring this, so you might get lucky. -Good luck. (Try looking on alt . com as well if you haven't already.) Andrew, English footslave.

nella -> RE: it all involves money (8/4/2005 10:15:11 AM)
Whatever one like or do not like finencial service, tribute or anything else the Domina or Dom for that matter asks, why complain aboute it, why not just, not get involved whit that Dominant and find somone that suit you better?

diaperedbaby -> RE: it all involves money (8/7/2005 6:43:19 AM)
I think it would be easier to seperate the ones that just want money from those that are involved as a lifestyle ect. There is a place for pros and a place for others. I only find it aggravating that some don't advertise it, and then ask for it later. Then these same dommes complain that too many people write them and only want sex. What were they expecting?

LdyAuburn -> RE: it all involves money (8/9/2005 5:26:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subimale49 I agree 100% with You. The Mistress I am currently seeing is not a Pro Domme, but a lifestyle Domme. Whenever I visit Her, I always bring something. One time, it was a 4 layer chocolate cake, another time, it was a piece of equipment. My Mistress lives over 400 miles from me, so even when I don't visit Her, I always try to let Her know I am thinking of Her. I know Mistress is an avid Star Trek fan, as am I. When I went to Las Vegas, I bought a few Star Trek trinkets from the Las Vegas Hilton for Mistress and mailed it to Her. Another time, I made a dvd of some of Mistress's favorite tv shows and mailed that as well. I like to send things to Mistress occasionally to let Her know that even though I am not sceneing with Her, She is ALWAYS in my thoughts. What could be better triibute than that? That is very thoughtful. You have insight into what she enjoys and you think of her even when she isnt there

dcsub98 -> RE: it all involves money (8/9/2005 4:54:07 PM)
I understand how he feels. When I was in my twenties, I attended my first bdsm group in washington dc, it was called PEP DC. I was eager to find a Mistress but every woman I talked with gave me her business card advertising her professional services. That didn't mean these women were bad, it was a fact of life. The only way I was going to be dominated was by honoring a Domme with a tribute. I am older now and I have met some wonderful lifestyle Dommes who are not motivated by money. It takes time and patience but they are out there. His odds are so much better today with forums such as this. In the late 1980's, there was no internet and you had to pay just to talk with a Domme over the phone. It was lonely out there and I shelled out a bunch of money talking to phone Mistresses and visiting professional Dommes. I don't regret a single penny.

BlkTallFullfig -> RE: it all involves money (8/9/2005 6:06:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dcsub98 I am older now and I have met some wonderful lifestyle Dommes who are not motivated by money. It takes time and patience but they are out there. His odds are so much better today with forums such as this. In the late 1980's, there was no internet and you had to pay just to talk with a Domme over the phone. It was lonely out there and I shelled out a bunch of money talking to phone Mistresses and visiting professional Dommes. I don't regret a single penny. Great to hear you did what you had to do to get what you wanted/needed, and understand that in life we all pay in one way or another for what we want. Even better to hear that you're mature enough to understand experiences weather good or bad) are what build character and teach you how to deal with life in general, and that not becoming a bitter bitch is very important to your happiness and that of those whose lives you come to touch. Welcome to the boards. M

bschwimmer -> RE: it all involves money (8/22/2005 5:05:49 AM)
cheep bastards they must have never gone out on a date in the vanilla world I can drop 100+ and never even have the expectation of anything in return[:@] Greetings from Basra Iraq hell on Earth

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