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RE: Is "hi" enough to respond to? - 9/21/2007 5:39:01 PM   
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We spilled out guts in our profile and journal, we state that we want a first email to respond to specific issues and that we don't respond to oneliners... yet we get them all the time and usually don't respond at all.

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RE: Is "hi" enough to respond to? - 9/21/2007 6:05:48 PM   
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I responded to a "hi" message from a slave here on Collarme and she is now my slave of three years, and my wife of two years. I try to respond to everyone, unless it is clearly a fake or spam. 

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RE: Is "hi" enough to respond to? - 9/21/2007 11:30:41 PM   
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chia the pet is so funny.

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RE: Is "hi" enough to respond to? - 9/22/2007 1:48:57 AM   
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I don't bother. I've stated in my profile that I consider one liners to be bad form. If someone hasn't given me the courtesy to read my profile - or worse, they have but simply don't care - I don't feel compelled to expend any energy on them, either.

Pretty much, you get what you give. If I'm not given anything to respond to, I'm not going to rack my brain trying to think of something. If someone is contacting me, I see it as their responsibility to leave an impression.


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RE: Is "hi" enough to respond to? - 9/22/2007 2:43:41 AM   
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so some one  walks  up to you on the street and says  hi ouy  just blow them  off cause it is  on you to think of a thing to say  or  cause it is to short why should not the same  rules aply  to heree as  we use in the worded world..  some one said here taht it is walking up to some on  at a party and saying hi and stareing at them.good point . so in  public you walk away  or ask waht it s about . and yes in punlic one worders are  jsut as shuned as here  try saying to some on  on the street excuse me  and  watch you get iggied a lot . it is  helpfull wehn treated like  this  if you need  instructions or directions. hell  if  i read a profile and say  hi to  another why should it  be  my responcability to tell them all to gain their intrest  . waht so they do not  have to stoop  so low as to  click on my profile  and see wahti am about . Hay  we get told  one  liners show  no respect  ok fair enough what is  not replyingto them showing  the same  leval  of  what

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RE: Is "hi" enough to respond to? - 9/22/2007 6:48:43 AM   
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In the past week I've gotten five emails on cm merely saying only "hi" from different people....I ponder how to respond to this....how could "hi" be a proper introduction?  I am no longer looking and merely here to talk to friends and this is stated in my profile so the "hi" emails should realize this if they can read.

Any thoughts on an appropriate response to or reason behind the number of "hi"s?
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RE: Is "hi" enough to respond to? - 9/22/2007 6:55:01 AM   
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As a couple of others have stated, i perv the profile... if it's relatively informative and interests me, i'll send a "hi" back. On the other hand, if they have a blank profile, they better think out a decent email for a first contact.

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RE: Is "hi" enough to respond to? - 9/22/2007 7:15:14 AM   
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I'll look to see what they are blathering on about. If it's some fantasy of D/s, I'll just say not intertested. BDSM is wierd enough without that unwiedly crap to deal with as well.

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RE: Is "hi" enough to respond to? - 9/22/2007 9:08:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RumpusParable

Haha!  I do this, too, most of the times I do respond.  I figure if they're going to start off like that I'll give them exactly that in return.  Then I get one of three responses, the last being most entertaining in an admittedly mean-spirited way:

1) They don't respond when I refuse to be made to open the conversation
2) They just straight to the perving with vulgar requests
3) They keep trying to make me take up the conversation with similar short and leading-nowhere responses as I pingpong them back with the same until I get bored.  Again, admittedly mean-spirited but it is fun watching them trying to make me produce wanking material for them or carry the whole conversation as they grow more frustrated with it.


OMG I KNOW!!!  I absolutely HATE when someone messages me and then expects ME to carry the conversation.  It's even worse when I'm dumb enough to give them my yahoo name.  Then I get a conversation like this:

him: hey whats up"
me: nothing much, you?
him: nothing
(two minutes of silence)
him: talk to me
me: about what?
him: i don't know. anything.

GRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Yeah can you tell that REALLY gets on my nerves

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RE: Is "hi" enough to respond to? - 9/22/2007 9:23:34 AM   
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LOL I think I just heard a collective sigh of familarity.  GAWD I hate that! 
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quote:

ORIGINAL: xoxi
OMG I KNOW!!!  I absolutely HATE when someone messages me and then expects ME to carry the conversation.  It's even worse when I'm dumb enough to give them my yahoo name.  Then I get a conversation like this:

him: hey whats up"
me: nothing much, you?
him: nothing
(two minutes of silence)
him: talk to me
me: about what?
him: i don't know. anything.

GRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Yeah can you tell that REALLY gets on my nerves



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RE: Is "hi" enough to respond to? - 9/22/2007 9:40:35 AM   
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i immediantly delete the message. Why should i have to put a thoughtful response if all i get is "hi"?. i used to respond back by saying hi and never got a response.

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RE: Is "hi" enough to respond to? - 9/22/2007 10:33:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mrdpettigrew

so some one  walks  up to you on the street and says  hi ouy  just blow them  off cause it is  on you to think of a thing to say  or  cause it is to short why should not the same  rules aply  to heree as  we use in the worded world..  some one said here taht it is walking up to some on  at a party and saying hi and stareing at them.good point . so in  public you walk away  or ask waht it s about . and yes in punlic one worders are  jsut as shuned as here  try saying to some on  on the street excuse me  and  watch you get iggied a lot . it is  helpfull wehn treated like  this  if you need  instructions or directions. hell  if  i read a profile and say  hi to  another why should it  be  my responcability to tell them all to gain their intrest  . waht so they do not  have to stoop  so low as to  click on my profile  and see wahti am about . Hay  we get told  one  liners show  no respect  ok fair enough what is  not replyingto them showing  the same  leval  of  what


Whoa, slow down, tiger. Breathe, now think about punctuation, and proof reading. It helps a ton with getting a point across.

If someone walks up to me on the street, my initial response is to be suspicious (inner city). They say hi, I say hi, at that point - the ball is still in their court as to why they wanted to talk to me, to convey their agenda, and convince me that it's in my better interest to talk with them.

Two nights ago, some dude on the street stops as I'm walking past and asks me my name. I kept walking. A few weeks ago, some guy carrying flyers stops me on my way to the bus, and wants to talk to me about god. I politely decline and keep moving. A student on campus asks to bum a smoke from me. He makes small talk about school, and asks me some information about campus. I talk to the dude until I have to go to class.

There's a *lot* you have to go on in a face to face encounter to form an opinion on that isn't readily available online. Case one, I know that posture and line well. It was after dark, and I wasn't stopping, damnit. Case two, the street preacher got their point across, I wasn't interested. Case three, dude didn't give me the creeps, wasn't just blatantly trying to pick me up, and wanted to talk to me about things that I had something to say about. We ended up exchanging contact information.

So tell me, how is online so different from the real world when it comes to making an introduction? Either way, you have an impression to make. Online, you just have less readily available information about a person - so that person has to make up for it somewhere. The way I see it, my time is valuable. A person that is contacting me, in essence,  has something to sell. Not in the literal sense, but "sell" in the I've got to be sold that investing valuable time into interacting with this person is going to be at lease equally as productive as any of the number of other things that I could or should be doing.

Lets say you go to a get flagged down by a cellular retailer at a mall kiosk. You don't need or want a new cell phone. You might even be in a contract with another carrier. The sales rep plops a handset down in front of you, and that's it. They don't tell you any information about their service, the performance of the handset, or how it might benefit you. In fact, they expect you to ask them for information. But... you weren't even interested in their service or products to begin with, and you don't even know where to begin in regards to asking questions!

How would you feel in a scenario like that? Would you be inclined to want to find out more about that service, or would you be kind of annoyed that some dude just wasted your time? Especially cause you just missed a chance to go make your own social faux pas with the hot red head that you had noticed before being so rudely interupted!

I, for one, like to know what I'm getting into. I do market research about products that I may be looking into buying, just like I read people's profiles and look for forum posts and blogs. I hope that people at least *look* at mine (in fact, odds of me replying to someone that doesn't show up on my who's viewing me history is unlikely), as well. If I'm not given anything to form an opinion on whether or not someone is interesting to me, no, I don't think it's my responsibility to to pry it out of the person. Just like at the cellular kiosk, I'm not going to be interested in a new service without being shown why it's beneficial to me. I have a cell, and I like what I've got. I've got plenty of people that I talk to, and I'm happy with those people. Furthermore, these are all people, that at some point in time, have shown me why spending a little time on them is beneficial to me (smiling and laughing is a fabulous currency).

All the while, though. I could be doing calculus. So come on, I dare ya. Beat calculus!


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RE: Is "hi" enough to respond to? - 9/22/2007 11:00:52 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Missokyst

LOL I think I just heard a collective sigh of familarity.  GAWD I hate that! 
Kyst
quote:

ORIGINAL: xoxi
OMG I KNOW!!!  I absolutely HATE when someone messages me and then expects ME to carry the conversation.  It's even worse when I'm dumb enough to give them my yahoo name.  Then I get a conversation like this:

him: hey whats up"
me: nothing much, you?
him: nothing
(two minutes of silence)
him: talk to me
me: about what?
him: i don't know. anything.

GRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Yeah can you tell that REALLY gets on my nerves




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RE: Is "hi" enough to respond to? - 9/22/2007 11:03:37 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: xoxi

quote:

ORIGINAL: RumpusParable

Haha!  I do this, too, most of the times I do respond.  I figure if they're going to start off like that I'll give them exactly that in return.  Then I get one of three responses, the last being most entertaining in an admittedly mean-spirited way:

1) They don't respond when I refuse to be made to open the conversation
2) They just straight to the perving with vulgar requests
3) They keep trying to make me take up the conversation with similar short and leading-nowhere responses as I pingpong them back with the same until I get bored.  Again, admittedly mean-spirited but it is fun watching them trying to make me produce wanking material for them or carry the whole conversation as they grow more frustrated with it.


OMG I KNOW!!!  I absolutely HATE when someone messages me and then expects ME to carry the conversation.  It's even worse when I'm dumb enough to give them my yahoo name.  Then I get a conversation like this:

him: hey whats up"
me: nothing much, you?
him: nothing
(two minutes of silence)
him: talk to me
me: about what?
him: i don't know. anything.

GRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Yeah can you tell that REALLY gets on my nerves



I am of the school of thought that if you have nothing to say, just shut the fuck up!

I know a few people like this. As soon as I come online, I get a hi. The normal pleasantries are exchanged, and then the conversation dies...

or so I thought. Suddenly I hear a jolt and notice the distinct smell of burning hair as the horse is attempted to be jumpstarted with debifrillators.

I listen to what they have to say as they talk at me, or if I have something to add, I do. The conversation is dying again, and I continue about my business.

I then hear the lovely crack of a whip, but instead of being turned on, I'm aghast at the poor, dead animal being flayed and mutilated as yet again, my friend is whipping a dead horse.

So we talk about nothing a little more, and I'm starting to become rather apalled at the things he is doing to that poor horse (animal welfare is very important to me!). The conversation dies...yet again.

It's quiet for a while. Ah, peace, maybe I'll actually get my homework done!

Engrossed in my work, I fail to notice the involuntary shake of my booty to the sound of a tribal beat. Soon after, I start to hear some chanting, but figure my mp3 player just rolled into my ethereal folder, so I keep at my homework.

I kinda dig the tunes, so I look up to see what mp3 it is, only to find my buddy with that damn horse again. This time, he's dancing around the poor thing nekkid, and the drums and chanting are him casting a voodoo ritual to resurrect the beast!

Who knew  he do voodoo! I pause for a moment, because though he sucks at conversation sometimes, he looks kinda cute...  I muse for a bit about how hot he'd look with a ball gag in his mouth, and how that would solve a lot of my problems.

My happy moment is interupted by a horrible, bone chilling sound. Oh god the HORROR! I head for the hills, because my buddy now has an undead horse on his hands.

Fuckin' zombies.




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RE: Is "hi" enough to respond to? - 9/22/2007 11:26:17 AM   
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If I received a "hi" message, I'd likely read someone's profile. So my guess is that such messages are simply trying to encourage you to read their profile.

You state that you aren't looking, and yet you're still here. I'd argue that while you may not be looking for a play partner, you must be getting something out of your time here or you wouldn't still be here. Whatever that thing you're getting is, it might be that the person saying "hi" thinks they might be able to offer you some of it. Whatever it is, and it may not necessarily be about finding play partners.

I dunno. I'd need to read their profiles to make a guess.

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RE: Is "hi" enough to respond to? - 9/22/2007 11:45:34 AM   
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I delete 'hi' messages, I assume they're either trolls or bots.

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RE: Is "hi" enough to respond to? - 9/22/2007 10:33:51 PM   
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**hugs TM!!** Good to see you, please call me sometime and let me know how you are doing!!

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RE: Is "hi" enough to respond to? - 9/23/2007 3:40:36 AM   
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If someone takes the trouble and the thought to send a greeting, then I will respond with similar. Sometimes that may include a question or comment about their profile. That secondary response from me is there for the sender to take up if they desire to go further than a friendly greeting.

I feel to just say 'hi' back is lacking on my part. Not answering is downright rude, I have my own standards I try to keep.

Just sending a friendly greeting to someone does not mean I desire things to go further than just being friendly.If a rapport is built up,then there are possibilities if it is desired.

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RE: Is "hi" enough to respond to? - 9/23/2007 9:52:06 AM   
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If someone takes the trouble and the thought to send a greeting, then I will respond with similar. Sometimes that may include a question or comment about their profile. That secondary response from me is there for the sender to take up if they desire to go further than a friendly greeting.

I feel to just say 'hi' back is lacking on my part. Not answering is downright rude, I have my own standards I try to keep.

Just sending a friendly greeting to someone does not mean I desire things to go further than just being friendly.If a rapport is built up,then there are possibilities if it is desired.

Aneirin


See there is where we differ.  I commend you for your actions, however I do not think it takes any trouble or thought to send a "hi".  Therefore I give no thought to a reply*shrugs* I do correspond with many on these boards and site on both sides of the kneel, but whether they or I started the correspondence, while maybe not lengthy, was always more than a "hi".  You can copy "hi" and pull up a domme list and have about 50 of those puppies mailed out in less than 3 minutes

Just my opinion though.  I respect all those whose varies.

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RE: Is "hi" enough to respond to? - 9/23/2007 5:02:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: laurell3

In the past week I've gotten five emails on cm merely saying only "hi" from different people....I ponder how to respond to this....how could "hi" be a proper introduction?  I am no longer looking and merely here to talk to friends and this is stated in my profile so the "hi" emails should realize this if they can read.

Any thoughts on an appropriate response to or reason behind the number of "hi"s?
l


I receive a large quantity of e-mail, but I still try and respond to each and every one in kind.  Some people are quite shy and nervous about messaging strangers, and I’d hate to scare away someone who could turn out to be quite interesting just because they were timid.  I imagine that for subs, a timid nature is not a trait they are looking for in a potential Dominant, but as a Dom it is a perfectly acceptable quality in a sub.

However, I have one rule, the more detailed the initial e-mail, the more detailed my response will be. 

If someone just sends me an e-mail with the words “hi” or “would you like to chat?”  I will usually give their profile a brief scan, no more than a few seconds, and them send them a message.   No more than a sentence or two, usually just a polite greeting.  I typically ask what I can do for them, and maybe even request that they give a little information on what they are looking for on collarme or why they have chosen to message me.

With this method, its pretty easy to thresh out the spammers, those who send a message to anyone they think looks cute, from those who are merely unsure how to greet a stranger online.

If they have obviously taken the time to read my profile, and write a personalized initial e-mail to me, then my response is much more in depth.  I will fully read their profile from start to finish (one of the perks of being a speed reader) and then sit down and compose a proper response.  As meeting interesting people here on CM takes a higher priority for me then using it to find another play partner, or even finding something more substantial, this method has proven quite effective for me so far.

Best wishes to you on your journey,

M. Shibari

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