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UrMan -> RE: 18 years old (7/1/2004 8:09:45 AM)

I wasperforming most of thesexual eroticism that excited me long before I was 18(10 and 12) and since I didn't have the avenues of today of finding like minded folks, I used my fantasies "to act out "under the cover",even fantasizing about two beautiful Domme's having their way with me. I could write the whole story here but I'd be here several hours. Wow, when I think back, amazing where my mind could take me. I could pick up on any story line I wanted, but it was always "feminization, being dominated by females, force bi-sexual, and ect.(smile)
Since she has been training her mind all these years and knows how she is or and can't deny any longer why not give her a shot at it? Hell, I was in the Marines and we "practiced for years". Her mind may be young in worldly manners, but hell the sexual preference, sub/dom is older than you think. She's probably got a lot to give, fire has been burning in her soul, and she's ready ! ! Probably got a lot of passion there. Hell, refer her to me!
I am also profiled svtbond here on collarme. I am pretty dominate to the vanilla world but submissive otherwise. I seek a dominate female for permanent ltr.



dragonofjapan -> RE: 18 years old (7/1/2004 10:11:13 AM)

It pisses me off to see people unaware of history. The fact is until this last century a girl turned adult at 12 and a boy at 14. These people were immature adults and were not allowed to sign contracts or to speak and vote in council.

I would venture a guess that most of you, before senility crept in and wiped your memories out, actually were teenagers once. Do any of you remember how pissed off you were at being treated like a kid?

I have two daughters 11 and 14. I have raised both to be aware and mature. They know how to run a company, understand business and are more than aware of sex and the fact they are having feelings and otehrs are having feelings about them.

The law was changed because the adults did not want to be bothered raising teens. So lets just call them KIDS. Then lets wonder why after calling them kids, they act immature when they grow up.Why not set the age at 35? (five levels of 7 for any of you paying attention).

People exploit ignorance. Why do you think they do not teach about economics and budgetting when you are in school? How could the government and the large businesses exploit the mass of ignorant, if they did not?

My parents educated me. They taught me about exploiters. Taught me how to read between the lines and how to read a contract. To read EVERYTHING before I signed anything. How to balance a checkbook and make a budget before I was 14.

I got started in BDSM at the age of 6 with an older women who was exploiting me for her sexual gratification. She was 8 and wanted to get whipped. Later her 11 year old sister joined us. By the time I was 12, I had learned a lot. I was also quite a devourer of information, so I read books on medicine and anatomy.

When I was 14 I topped a couple in their late 20's. Want to talk about mind warp? But the fact is I was able to do this because of who I had become. Oddly enough while I had oral sex since 6, I had never had sexual intercourse until I was 12 ( again older women in a pair of 16 year olds who knew one of my older sisters), my next lover was 23, when I had turned 13 and just before my 14th birthday one of my parents friend's second wife decide a bit of Mrs. Robinson was in order.

She taught me how to talk to women, the importance of cuddling after sex, how to tell what my lovers wanted and needed and so many more things which made me a far better lover and person.

Now do I recommend each kid get started at 6? absolutely not.

But when some 13 year old girl decides she wants to fuck some 30 year old guy, trust me she has leverage.

Yes there are predators out there. So teach your daughters how to take the eyes out of an asshole when needed. I travel all over the world. My daughters and I have been in places quite remote and semi-lawless. My daughters know how to KILL a person, but more importantly they understand how to get away while harming severly if needed.

I taught my daughters to swim before they could walk, because it was the only way I could have them safe near water. They were taught how to climb up and down stairs before they could walk as well.

18 year olds talk about fake id and keggers because they have not been taught how to have a conversation. Parents are too busy getting a new BMW to take the time.

Each evening, my daughters and I sit down to dinner. TV off music on (we vary the music from classical to jazz to rock to even hip-hop) and we talk over dinner.

Everyone I meet compliments me on my daughters and how well behaved, intelligent and charming girls they are. My youngest daughter was even able to take care of her school bully (breaking rules, but in such a way her teachers had a hard time calling her on it).

My 14 year old daughter and many of her friends are very mature. They like hanging around me because I do not treat them like children, but adults and demand they use their brains and eyes, to see what is going on around them. I have some aquaintances who are in their 30's and I have hopes they will be coming out of her adolecent phase soon! But sincerely doubt it.

I am tired of the government saving my ass.

As to expereince, you get it where you find it. Those of you with more have an obligation to society to give to 10, what 1 has given to you (positive stuff, let's not be assholes here).

I find this over the top lets all be PC, in the BDSM world to be fucking hysterical. I especially love the "purists" who tell me this has nothing to do with sex, or if it is sexual somehow this diminishes its value. Sexual tastes are as varied as breakfast cereal, the same goes for Power Exchange.

I am getting ready to leave the US again. Just a bit to anal retentive for me here.



dragonofjapan -> RE: 18 years old (7/1/2004 10:15:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: iwillserveu

There is a difference in a Domme and a sub. Fankly any 18 year old guy who has read the Boy Scout Handbook could tie you up. If an 18 yearold wanted to try breath control or fire play, you might wonder about his experience more.[:)]


Just check the badges on his arm and make sure he has taken the CPR badge and the First Aid badge[:)]



knees2you -> RE: 18 years old (7/1/2004 10:49:06 AM)

anthrosub[:)], I totally agree, exspecially with the college thing~It to suprises me~ But then I work in a Hotel here in Vegas.
and nothing suprises me~

Sincerely, eyesofAslave[;)]

quote:

"No I'm not affraid of Who's behind the door~"

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proudsub -> RE: 18 years old (7/1/2004 11:04:47 AM)

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I got started in BDSM at the age of 6 with an older women who was exploiting me for her sexual gratification. She was 8 and wanted to get whipped. Later her 11 year old sister joined us. By the time I was 12, I had learned a lot.


I find your post very disturbing dragonofjapan. In my opinion those adults you were with as a kid should be in prison. And if you are teaching your kids the same way i hope they don't contract aids or other stds and their adult partners should be in prison too. I'm all for sex education, in fact i used to teach it at a high school, but teaching kids to have sex and be promiscuous at such a young age is very dangerous i think.



Sinergy -> RE: 18 years old (7/1/2004 12:07:25 PM)

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would venture a guess that most of you, before senility crept in and wiped your memories out, actually were teenagers once. Do any of you remember how pissed off you were at being treated like a kid?


I have to thank you for the caustic and abrasive tone and your insults levelled at me when you dont even know me.

How is that approach to interacting with other people working for you?

Sinergy



baileythorne -> RE: 18 years old (7/2/2004 2:23:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: knees2you

[:)]Hello I read a profile where this Domme was 18 and and had a list of things a mile long She was interested in. I just wonder how much bdsm an 18 year old would really know[&:] What age is to Young???


I met a man from bondage.com who was *very* experienced at age 18 (he's now in his 40's).

Why? His mother was a prodomme and brought him into the lifestyle at an early age. When he grew up and went through his "rebellious stage" he married a vanilla woman and told her his mother was dead.

He dated me for a year, claiming to be single and available. After we had dated for a year I was pushing hard for him to invite me to his home. He confessed he couldn't do that because he was married and had a small child. I was rather stunned. I’m used to dealing with truthful people.

He is technically gifted at BDSM and sex. He is an extremely deceitful human being. Evidently his mother taught him that “we can’t tell other people about what we do” and he is still using that approach to get what he wants from life. He’s now part of my past.

This is just to say that it is possible to find a technically experienced 18 yr old, however, the situation required to create that experience may be damaging to the person in the long run and may not make them a desirable partner.

As far as "how young is too young?", legally, the age of consent seems to be the age that most BDSM organizations will allow as their youngest members.

--bailey



iwillserveu -> RE: 18 years old (7/2/2004 5:45:28 PM)

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Why not set the age at 35? (five levels of 7 for any of you paying attention).


Nah. Set the arbitrary age at 49.[:)] (Seven levels of 7. The square gets me aroused.[:)])



iwillserveu -> RE: 18 years old (7/2/2004 5:48:25 PM)

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I have to thank you for the caustic and abrasive tone and your insults levelled at me when you dont even know me.


Tell him pissing people off is my job![:)]



Sinergy -> RE: 18 years old (7/2/2004 5:49:01 PM)

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Fankly any 18 year old guy who has read the Boy Scout Handbook could tie you up.


From my perspective, this sentence is correct, but incomplete.

The question in my mind is does the 18 year old really understand why he would
tie somebody / be tied up?

Sinergy



TimeReality -> RE: 18 years old (7/3/2004 1:42:47 PM)

*peeks in* I'm sure none of you want to hear my opinion :P but there's a post button and I'm using it.
I feel the age thing is greatly unfair. I'll be 19 in just a few days, and I don't consider myself anything but inexperienced. That doesn't mean I don't know what's going on, or what I want, I just haven't been able to do as much playing as I would have hoped by this age.
I was introduced to BDSM at around age 13-14, and while I did a crappy job of it at that time, I've had 5-6 years to grow and mature since then. I've learned more, what I like, how to do things etc. I seem submissive at times because I'm shy and actually polite (Not saying that all of you out there aren't, it just seems to come as a shock to everyone I talk to thusfar)
I've known what I was for quite a while, and yes, I understand alot of females especially (but guys too) are rather immature and are looking for either a kick or something new to try at my age, but that doesn't mean that all of them are like that.
I grew up in an adult world, almost never allowed near kids my own age, and thus can seem a little childish at times, but for the most part I consider myself rather mature, and can carry on conversations with anyone over about 15 and to their deathbed with relatively no problems whatsoever.

I wasn't able to read all the posts, and I appologize if I've gotten off subject at all, but I just simply don't think it's fair to judge someones abilities, knowledge or maturity or anything else simply by their age. Yes, if they act like a child, it's fine to say they're immature, but don't put all of the younger generation in a box and say we won't make it until we're older and more 'knowledgeable'

That's my soap box for the moment, feel free to argue (or have diff of opinion, I know there's a diff) all you want, but I won't change my opinon on it because I am of the age bracket and know how hard it is to get into this world because of my physical age.



(And after reading some of the posts I appologize if this just sounds like a little kid's rant, but I feel if a person knows their stuff, then no age is too young. I've heard of many kids starting off in their teen years, and knowing just as much if not more than those in their late 20's and 30's. Though I can understand wanting your Dom/me sub/slave to be around your age, don't nix the younger generation out just because we're young)



Sinergy -> RE: 18 years old (7/3/2004 2:45:54 PM)

Hello,

quote:

Tell him pissing people off is my job!


Never said I was pissed off. Mildly amused that yet another person uses
infinitives, but that was about the extent of my emotional involvement.

Thank you for posting, TimeReality, and welcome to the boards.

Sinergy



LadyBeckett -> RE: 18 years old (7/3/2004 3:11:50 PM)

On several different threads we've all talked about how long we've been in the lifestyle, and on various topics throughout the message boards we speak to our experience in life, and the lifestyle. It began somewhere, in some way, and grew from there. Now we're here and have the opportunity to share that, and hopefully grow as a result, with one another. It is so much more than just knowing the talk. There's a walk that goes with it. lol Seeing someone else use their tools is NOT knowing how to use the tools. Knowledge, Skill, and experience is what makes a Dom/Domme, and a sub/slave, and a switch, or whatever the lifestyle choice is. That takes time. So at 16, 18, 20, sure the interest is there, the sincerity may be there, and a little practice may be there too, but the knowledge, skill, and experience is a work in progress. I had subs when I was 18, but that doesn't mean I was a "good" Mistress. lol I am 52 years old, and I am Excellent! I have been in the lifestyle all my life, but I am also learning something new all the time!

DragonofJapan, I noted that proudsub said your post disturbed her, and I have to say it disturbed me more than just a little bit also. I won't go into it in this post, or anywhere on this message board for that matter, but I certainly take issue with people who think as you speak in your post. I was raised in a lifestyle/poly home, and nothing of what you suggest was practiced nor encouraged in my home, nor any home like my home, to my knowledge.



proudsub -> RE: 18 years old (7/3/2004 9:26:18 PM)

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DragonofJapan, I noted that proudsub said your post disturbed her, and I have to say it disturbed me more than just a little bit also.


Glad i'm not the only one.



iwillserveu -> RE: 18 years old (7/4/2004 2:54:03 AM)

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The question in my mind is does the 18 year old really understand why he would
tie somebody / be tied up?


First, I stand corrected. You are a better judge of your emotional state than I ever will be. However I think "Tell him I'm the one that is supposed to piss people off" is funnier than "Tell him I'm the one that is supposed to mildy annoy and amuse people".[:)]

OK, on to the quote. I don't think that question matter a whole lot to the person tied up by the 18 year old.[:D]

(Did I mention I piss people off?[:)])



Sinergy -> RE: 18 years old (7/4/2004 5:48:50 AM)

Hello,

quote:

I don't think that question matter a whole lot to the person tied up by the 18 year old.


There is a line in one of the Matrix movies: "You have already made the choice, now you have to understand it" which describes my view of an 18 year old tying up another person. But that is what I personally am about, the mechanics of something are mildly amusing; single tail whipping, spanking, fire play, etc., but to me they are all a means to an end.

I dont think I have to fully understand the mechanics of the internal combustion engine to drive my car up Highway 1 and go "wow" at the mind numbing beauty of the Pacific Coast. Is a full understanding of aerodynamics important when I want to fly to see my friend in Tucson?

What attracts me to the lifestyle is the end I am trying to reach, not how I get there. So why I tie somebody up with my former Boy Scout knot tying abilities is what is important to me.

Peace out,

Sinergy

(I read somewhere that your job is to piss people off, go you!)



iwillserveu -> RE: 18 years old (7/4/2004 6:13:27 AM)

quote:

(I read somewhere that your job is to piss people off, go you!)


No they get themselves pissed off. I'm just the catalyst.[:)]



ThornBlood -> RE: 18 years old (7/5/2004 11:45:22 AM)

Laughing.. I don't know.. eighteen.. smeighteen..

I've met a lot of nice younger people and sometimes the immaturaty shows. Course.. sometimes Mine shows also.

Laughing out loud,
John



Mondschein -> RE: 18 years old (7/5/2004 3:57:19 PM)

I agree w/ LadyBeckett, who said that some people are raised in families that are in the lifestyle, so that child will be exposed and experience it since very young, but it could also be that this young Domme is interested in lots of the things she mentioned, but doesn't have much experience. So it can go either way. I also agree w/ some other posts about maturity. I am 23 and many times have been taken for an immature little girl, who had all these much, much older Doms trying to buy me, literaly. But I have also met some older Doms that respected my views and were delighted to hear about my ideas and opinions and told me how mature I was even though I was young, so it is all relative. It is personal preference too, I somehow find myself meeting men, vanilla or not, who are about 10 years older than me, sometimes less sometimes more, and I have great relationships w/ them or really horrible ones because I thought they were too immature. So once again, there are all kinds of people and the age is not so important. Just stick to what you like, but never make assumptions about others just because of their age. One other experience I had was when I was looking for a sub and this Dom I was talking to found it strange that all the subs I showed interest in were older than me. He said that it is not likely to see a young Domme w/ an older sub, even though they were at most 9 years older than me. Does this happened to anyone else?



naughtybutnice -> RE: 18 years old (7/5/2004 4:53:56 PM)

How exciting is this, my first post.
My first reaction is.."I would never be with a Dom/Domme who was 18". How could they have the experience to keep me safe? I read on..Then I remembered (sometimes I forget, being the senile woman that I am at age 32! [;)]) I was very mature for my age when I was in my teens. Does that make me a better submissive? No, it's the experience..the life experience that I've had. So, no matter how mature I seemed to be, I think it's important to remember it's the experiences that one has that molds..changes.. and shapes.. I'm not judging and I do believe that to each their own. But even as I look back at my life today, what I liked at a teen as changed. Through experience, desire, need and wants... So even though I'm not jumping to serve an 18 year old, it doesn't mean that their aren't people out there that won't.



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