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RE: to new and "unlucky" doms, hang in there. - 9/24/2007 5:51:50 PM   
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Wow.... absolutely wonderful...from the original post on down are all "keepers" and advice that can go both ways -- Dom for subs and subs for Doms..

Thanks y'all, for taking the time to write such amazing posts.

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RE: to new and "unlucky" doms, hang in there. - 9/24/2007 8:50:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ehlovindom

The problem is you are preaching to the converted. Those guys who should read you post won't.
To the OP..yep good post and thread..but I have to agree with the statement above...sadly enough some of the more unfortunate e-mails I receive are the ones I know,have never read profiles let alone the foums..I refer to them as the shallow pool divers..Tempting

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RE: to new and "unlucky" doms, hang in there. - 9/24/2007 9:28:38 PM   
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welcome goalie..and what you wrote rocks...youll have a good time here.

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RE: to new and "unlucky" doms, hang in there. - 9/24/2007 9:30:44 PM   
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good advice i guess....but why does it have to come in such a condesending tone? not that it is not uncommon, it is the norm, but it sadddens me all the same.

and it is also sad to see folks jumping in and patting the OPs back because it only encourages it more from not only the OP but to all the hungry newbys that are looking for pats on the back too.

i like what Master Skip says about intergration....basically that the opposit is disintergration, maybe to some an obvious observation, but for me it goes to heart of how we choose to create our world to be.

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RE: to new and "unlucky" doms, hang in there. - 9/25/2007 2:06:16 AM   
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wow, that made me hot just reading that.


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RE: to new and "unlucky" doms, hang in there. - 9/25/2007 2:32:27 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: crouchingtigress

good advice i guess....but why does it have to come in such a condesending tone? not that it is not uncommon, it is the norm, but it sadddens me all the same.

and it is also sad to see folks jumping in and patting the OPs back because it only encourages it more from not only the OP but to all the hungry newbys that are looking for pats on the back too.

i like what Master Skip says about intergration....basically that the opposit is disintergration, maybe to some an obvious observation, but for me it goes to heart of how we choose to create our world to be.


I won't disagree about the tone, though saddly drill sergeants tend to have more of an immediate effect than do than do soft spoken librarians, now of the two I'd rather live in your world as well; where the weft and warp of life work together in making the unending tapestry of understanding, but saddly here on earth at this moment of history all the looms are run by robots and the basic humanities are being lost one popping soap bubble at at time.

If you find that valley we can pull in after us where to be heard it is not needed to simply make more noise, I'll follow like a puppy on a string but until that valley is found all thinking people can do is try to stem the tide of malice and ignorance even when that means putting more water into the lifeboat wer'e in. 

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RE: to new and "unlucky" doms, hang in there. - 9/25/2007 6:51:02 AM   
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Gee, after reading this, I feel all the more encouraged! Thanks for the pep talk!

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RE: to new and "unlucky" doms, hang in there. - 9/25/2007 10:18:56 AM   
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no one is a victim. you make choices, and if you make a choice to be catty or cruel than cattiness and cruelty is what you will attract...and then that is all youll see...and it will shape your world veiw....and as others come in contact with your world view it will shape thiers as well, and soon the illusion is that that is the world we live in....



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RE: to new and "unlucky" doms, hang in there. - 9/25/2007 10:52:14 AM   
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Great advice from all parties...

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RE: to new and "unlucky" doms, hang in there. - 9/25/2007 11:34:52 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: crouchingtigress

good advice i guess....but why does it have to come in such a condesending tone? not that it is not uncommon, it is the norm, but it sadddens me all the same.

and it is also sad to see folks jumping in and patting the OPs back because it only encourages it more from not only the OP but to all the hungry newbys that are looking for pats on the back too.

i like what Master Skip says about intergration....basically that the opposit is disintergration, maybe to some an obvious observation, but for me it goes to heart of how we choose to create our world to be.


I will not argue that the tone has a darker bent then most but have an issue with the theme of your reply.

The more a person writes the more a personality comes out. Maybe it is a good personality maybe it is a bad personality but it is up to each and every individual. If a person has a bad tone in one or two messages or in their journal entries who cares, that was their mood that day. It gets me to know them better. If a person can only write in unattractive tones then I am going to judge them for that.

I just think if a post(s) somehow encourage a submissive to write in a certain way that is just condescending like a submissive does not have a mind of her own. What is the difference between that advice and a submissive coming in here writing in third person and very meek like?

Give submissives some credit we are mostly not that feeble minded to go hey they write like that so I will do that from now on.



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RE: to new and "unlucky" doms, hang in there. - 9/25/2007 12:27:42 PM   
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all i am saying is it sets a tone and a context when newbees are condesended to. everything the OP wrote was great stuff, yet i could have done with out the holier then thou attitude...but based on every ones responces...i am alone in this.

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RE: to new and "unlucky" doms, hang in there. - 9/25/2007 12:54:16 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: crouchingtigress

all i am saying is it sets a tone and a context when newbees are condesended to.


I agree to a point. He did give some encouragment to 'hang in there' and that's a plus. 

quote:


everything the OP wrote was great stuff,


With that, I disagree. I didn't read anything 'great'. I read a One True Way 'rule' book for dominants with a smattering of common sense and some pretty whack ideas about vanilla women and submissive women in general.  

quote:

but based on every ones responces...i am alone in this.


No, you're not. I just hadn't read the post until now.

Re: The OP

There are plenty of woman who will fall to their knees to that command from a perfect stranger. It rocks their world and if that's who they are, and that's the sort of dominant they seek, then the 'rules' would be bad for them. Being yourself, even if that means 99% of the submissives won't respond to your style, still means you're going to get the handful who do. When you are who you are, the like-minded will respond to that and your odds are greatly increased for some longevity over trying to be who you are not. The mask will, eventually, slip away then you're in a relationship with someone who isn't compatible. Those 'rules' work for 'you.' That's great. They won't work for everyone, however.

This 'life' is absolutely a dating scene for plenty of people. Should those people be left out in the cold because they don't want to follow your way? Or should they be left alone to do things their own way and perhaps find exactly what they seek in a partner? I'd vote for the latter over the former.

The second 'rule' suggests that vanilla women are one size fits all as opposed to submissive women. I don't know what exposure you've had to vanilla women, but they are as complex, as self-aware and as knowledge as submissive women in who and what they are and what they want. They are no more 'off' the rack as anyone else. Being in a D/s relationship is not 'more work'. It is what it is to the parties involved.

The best part of the OP, to me, was the third 'rule'. That was encouraging. You're letting others know there is someone out there if they just keep looking and don't settle. It seems to contradict the first 'rule' though.

The bit about knocking a cig outta the mouth with a quirt.. well, many can probably do that, but that doesn't mean someone should expect perfection. Everyone makes mistakes.. being aware of what can happen is a good start then you can assess whether or not you want to take the risk. Also, someone may very well be able to bring a submissive to a screaming orgasm. If the criteria for success is disturbing the neighbors in a non-consensual manner, perhaps better advice would be .. if you are capable of doing this task, then use the tools necessary to minimize the risk of engaging people who don't wish to be engaged. In other words, gag your submissive and then the neighbors won't be disturbed.

The rest seems to be fairly common sense albeit a bit crude for my taste, but, to each their own. If you believe it's the power of the pussy which means more than the power of a brain, that's your thing, but it's certainly not everyone elses.

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