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RE: Love: A Want or Need? - 9/27/2007 4:31:54 PM   
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i think the Beatles said it best............

All you need is love (all together now)
All you need is love (everybody)
All you need is love, love, love is all you need.


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RE: Love: A Want or Need? - 9/27/2007 6:35:21 PM   
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According to Maslow's triangle it's a need.  A whole category of need actually.

Personally I consider it a need.  I also consider the ability to love and to accept love to be more important than having someone to love, but I think without someone to love anyone with the ability feels unfulfilled.

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RE: Love: A Want or Need? - 9/27/2007 7:16:34 PM   
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To protect and provide would seem to fit with a male biological imperative.
I think it could fill the space normally filled by love for some men, myself included.
Mere sex, however, is a different matter, and something that does not fulfill my needs.
Companionship is also high on most people's list of priorities, but love isn't needed for it.

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RE: Love: A Want or Need? - 9/27/2007 7:19:37 PM   
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Men want respect, women want love.

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RE: Love: A Want or Need? - 9/27/2007 7:19:42 PM   
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love is a need and a want. the new science out now is showing that if a child is deprived of loving touch/surroundings/experience right away they do not develop properly from the word 'go'. which is most of us. the thought process was infants have no intellect, or feelings. they used to do all operations on infants with NO anethesia at all. i have mentioned in another post about the brain development. the reptilian brain is not the one you want to be in charge in order to have a wonderful life but 9.9 times out of ten that is what we have running us.

yes, love is in the feelings and infants are much more sensitive than we are, their bodies included.

2 twins were born. one was expected to live the other no. they were separated and placed in adjacent incubators. a night nurse who was watching over them decided to do something forbidden for her to do. she had a strong feeling she could not deny and went with it. she placed the sicker twin in with the better one. immediately the better one put her little arm over her sister and the sicker one's vital signs improved immediately. there is so much research being done in these areas and i love it.

it seems to me, the more people who are learning how to heal themselves and each other can help pick up the entire load. sure, we can have relationships even as we are so damaged that there is barely a shred of love present. ideally the very relationship would serve to create more love.

i do feel it is true when they say that when you orgasm in love's presence then you create light. when 2 people come together they create light. and by 'love' i am not inferring some certain definition of what the actual act might look like, or sound or feel like.



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RE: Love: A Want or Need? - 9/27/2007 9:13:42 PM   
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Men want respect, women want love.


Not sure that is an appropriate generalization.


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RE: Love: A Want or Need? - 9/27/2007 9:18:09 PM   
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Men want respect, women want love.


Not sure that is an appropriate generalization.



Not sure that I care that you do.

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RE: Love: A Want or Need? - 9/27/2007 9:33:50 PM   
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Not sure that I care that you do.


Feel free to elaborate, or to not count yourself in the target audience.

Announcing that you don't care serves no purpose, however.


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RE: Love: A Want or Need? - 9/27/2007 9:35:24 PM   
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Not sure that I care that you do.


Feel free to elaborate, or to not count yourself in the target audience.

Announcing that you don't care serves no purpose, however.



Why does anyone need to justify themselves to you?

It may serve your agenda-but not mine. Does that make more sense?

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RE: Love: A Want or Need? - 9/28/2007 12:11:53 AM   
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anouncing that you don't care would indicate that you do care because if you really didn't care you would just not respond....

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RE: Love: A Want or Need? - 9/28/2007 1:21:54 AM   
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Define love.  Try really hard, give examples and subtopics; and still, you won't completely have put your finger on it.

This is why Master/servant relationships exist; because, for those two people, they need to feel more, to prove more, than that they feel the same kind of hollywood 'love' that most people think of when they use the word.  Security, safety, love, freedom within limitations and structure; people have proven that it works, that it satisfies a need that isn't fulfilled in the standard roles we play at. 

The perspective of evolutionary biology would state that love exists because it makes for more successful children; that two, or more, people in love provide a better home.  There's more to it, though:  a man that can foster love has done more than simply provide, he has proven that he is the type of man that can be loved.  And that his children are also likely to have that talent.  For women, appearance is such a strong factor that being 'loveable' isn't as important, for the majority, but I would say that the kind of man that can be loved, is naturally more inclined to find a woman that can be loved--he will be more successful with that strategy in filtering who he should spend time with, so that he gets to the goal line faster and has more to show for it when he's done. 

And for men that can attract easily, beauty is common; being 'loveable' sets those women apart.  I would say that, given 9-10 more generations of our current social order, the number of woman who are skilled in seeking out men and providing value to them will increase dramatically, based on men's physical appearance and other less social factors--the laws of scarcity will reverse.  Currently, it's men that bear this part of the attraction game; but because of shared responsibilities these days, it becomes more and more easy for women to skip past the 'wait for the right guy to come along' and just go looking herself; the women that do this will be more successful, but it will eventually change the overall dynamic.  Too bad; I like it this way.

Then there's the fact that a skill that goes unused gets lost.  And love is a skill; managing *any* emotion, within and without, is a skill.  So we 'need' love in order to be loveable; to be fit and attractive.  A person who is socially stunted is at as much of a disadvantage as someone who's physically ill; more disadvantaged, even, depending on the circumstance.

It's a bit of a paradox.

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RE: Love: A Want or Need? - 9/28/2007 3:21:21 AM   
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For me, Love is neither a need nor a want…it’s a natural strong human emotion that encompasses us all with feelings of deep affection and devotion.

I copied the following from the net which I thought I share:
Love - The ancient Greeks had four different words we translate love. It is important to understand the difference between the words:
1. "Eros" was one word for love. It described, as we might guess from the word itself, erotic love. It refers to sexual love.
2. "Storge" was the second word for love. It refers to family love, the kind of love there is between a parent and child, or between family members in general.
3. "Philia" is the third word for love. It speaks of a brotherly friendship and affection. It is the love of deep friendship and partnership. It might be described as the highest love of which man/woman is capable of.
4. "Agape" is the fourth word for love. It is a love that loves without changing. It is a self-giving love that gives without demanding or expecting re-payment. It is love so great that it can be given to the unlovable or unappealing. It is love that loves even when it is rejected. Agape love gives and loves because it wants to; it does not demand or expect repayment from the love given. It gives because it loves, it does not love in order to receive. It can be defined as a sacrificial, giving, absorbing, love.

"A wicked man serves from fear. A good man serves from love." ...Aristotle.

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RE: Love: A Want or Need? - 9/28/2007 3:31:28 AM   
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Why does anyone need to justify themselves to you?


The only people who need to justify themselves to me are those that are accountable to me.

Since that does not include you, I fail to see why you'd bring it up, as the coordinating conjunction of the statement I made was disjunctive, and any statement on a public board not made by the moderators is de facto a suggestion or request, not an imperative. I only clarified that if you did not care to elaborate, then you were outside the intended target audience of the post I made, and pondered your purpose in posting.

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It may serve your agenda-but not mine. Does that make more sense?


I had no agenda in my posting beyond addressing the contents of your post.

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RE: Love: A Want or Need? - 9/28/2007 3:59:08 AM   
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Men want respect, women want love.


Again, like love, respect is neither a want or a need.
 
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RE: Love: A Want or Need? - 9/28/2007 4:00:05 AM   
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I seldom post  but your response is something that should appear in a quote.  Well stated

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RE: Love: A Want or Need? - 9/28/2007 9:20:47 AM   
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Neither!
 
Reminded of a song here -
*I've got to feel it in my blood
I need your touch
Don't need your love
And i want
And i need
And i love
Animal.
 
Plain and simply all i want and need is to be his animal.
 
*def leppard, animal

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RE: Love: A Want or Need? - 9/28/2007 9:40:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RRafe

Men want respect, women want love.


Again, like love, respect is neither a want or a need.
 
the.dark.

 
and when do you get a phd in mental health lol   with out love we are no different then anything else on the planet you might as well be a rock though solid but very cold and none thinking

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RE: Love: A Want or Need? - 9/28/2007 9:41:25 AM   
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Are you stalking me?

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RE: Love: A Want or Need? - 9/28/2007 9:47:24 AM   
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i have three d raidar  lol know when someone post

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RE: Love: A Want or Need? - 9/28/2007 9:58:11 AM   
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I think most of U/us WANT love because W/we NEED it.

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